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I like to think I would pay, never been in the situation. I also have played some places where homes are so close to fairways that I feel less bad about potentially hitting a house 20 yards off a fairway than a home that is 80-100 yards away

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I want to specifically differentiate between what a person should do and what a person may or may not be obligated to do.

As mentioned already, the law generally backs the golfer in this situation, and I don't have any moral/ethical issues either with golfers that don't want to pay. I don't see it as any different than my decision to attend a golf tournament and risk catching a wayward Phil Mickelson approach shot while I sit in the granstand. If it happens, Mickeltits doesn't owe me anything for my medical bills, and it has nothing to do with what is or isn't printed on the ticket. It has everything to do with the fact I knowingly put myself in close enough proximity to be hit.

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Much easier to lie and say it was not you than deal with the BS this old geezer may pull.
He may try to get you to pay for that new roof he is wanting.

I would have told him to fck off.

Man you are worried about sounding likean a-hole? The second he asked for my name and information I would have giving him a two word reply that began with an f and ended with a u. Id say the fact that you entertained him by talking to him was a heck of a lot nicer than I would have been.

What course was this ?

Well, he did have the cart number. But, if you live on a golf course, you should have some expectation of getting hit by errant shots, no matter where you are on the course.

I go tired of typing last night, but for those of you curious as to how it ended. I went into the shop when I got done. Made a little small talk to see if they would say anything, then mentioned that we had a little issue on number 11. Pro said, ah yes, Dave called. I said, ok, what'd he say? How do you normally handle something like this? Pro says, well we stay out of it, it's between you and him, but I think he was upset that you guys were trying to ignore him. I kind of told my side of the story and the Pro says, well I don't know I wasn't there, all I know is someone would have to hit a ball really high and really left to hit a car in his drive way. He's a long time member and the HOA President, just sounds like he was having a bad day. If I were you I wouldn't worry about it.

No phone calls today, didn't even ask the shop if they gave him my number. Guess I'll be making sure my weeds are pulled and trash cans are close to the curb.

Anway, it was the 11th at Meadowbrook Farms. House just past the Oak tree, flag pole in the corner of the yard. It is for sale so you might not have a chance to run into him for very long. Picture below. On a straight line its 250 to the house off the box. Now the house is 75 yards left of the center of the fairway and its 95 yards left of center to the driveway (thank you google maps). So maybe it doesn't happen very often, but on that hole, I have to think a ton of people miss left. Best part of the entire ordeal was him standing on his fence, phone in hand, watching us finish 11 and play 12.

I used o play that course all of the time from 2002-2006. Love That course. Great layout and two very good holes. I don't remember a ton of houses on it though but I do remember a lot of building going on. Sed to be a lot of coyotes on the back nine.

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He should have played that slice directly over the lake.

Dave and his neighbors are all idiots. What an awful location if you're someone that would get bent out of shape about getting hit.

I agree. He plays that over the water and you are looking at a pitch and putt for birdie and this thread lasts a total of one post.

Have lived on a golf course pretty much my whole life... Have played golf since I was 4. You break a window you pay for it, period. It's common courtesy. It is the right thing to do! I have paid for a few when I was younger.

Have had this discussion at length many times. Based on most everyone's logic here; if I swerve my car and take out your mailbox, tough luck you assumed the risk by building it on the street...

And for you hackers if I happen to drive thru your living room you should have have built your house much further from the street.

I understand my house will get hit. It does every once in a while. But I would not trade my 3 fairway view for anything! And occasionally a window gets broken. I have never really ever had a problem with people paying. Have had a couple of guys hand me a hundred even though the window is 125, I'm ok with that.

But to justify to your self that it's ok and your not liable is, well, frankly rather weak at best.

I see it differently. Duffers and hackers are BOUND to play your course, and living on a fairway just invites an occasional hit. IMO, it's "the cost of the doing business" and par for the course for you to get hit.

"Shouldn't have put a house there."

So driving a car is just like playing golf, perfect analogy

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Have had this discussion at length many times. Based on most everyone's logic here; if I swerve my car and take out your mailbox, tough luck you assumed the risk by building it on the street...

But to justify to your self that it's ok and your not liable is, well, frankly rather weak at best.

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You're just kidding by saying that assumption of risk applies to a car hitting a mailbox and house, right?

Never broke anything while playing golf and i do not know for sure how i would react. I will say i wont lose any sleep over it either way. Live on a fairway your going to catch some balls.

The guy's house OR car shouldn't have been standing there.

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Nah...I'll pass. I ain't paying for it and there's nothing you can do about it.

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So driving a car is just like playing golf, perfect analogy

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Do people try to get in a wreck or is it an accident? Do you try to hit it at the house or was it an accident?

Do you suck at driving so you got in a wreck? Do you suck at golf so you hit a house?


It's funny how the homeowners on the golf course have a very different opinion than the others.

I'm still on the side of golfers "SHOULD" pay whether legally they have to or not. They should pay out of courtesy. My house is private property, it is not part of the golf course.

PS: I have never had a window or anything broken because of being on the golf course so I don't have any ill feelings or bad stories, I just think golf is about being honest and respecting the sport, and I think you should do the same if you break something of someone else's.

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So maybe it doesn't happen very often, but on that hole, I have to think a ton of people miss left.

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Shoot, it looks like the box is set up to make you hit the house directly to the right of Dave's if you hit it straight. That whole row of houses is just asking for it.

Looks like kind of a ***** of a hole. Water right, OB left, and a fairway trap sits in a spot that I would otherwise consider a fairly prime landing area.

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It's also usually into the wind.

And some people have car insurance and some don't.

I have lurked on this thread for awhile.

I think the golfer is responsible for paying the deductible or for the damage, whichever is less. I don't understand how some of you think a homeowner should pay for you hitting their house.

Now the homeowner may not like making a claim on the insurance, but that is tough luck. But still do not understand how hitting someone's house is not your responsibility.

You also don't have to get a license proving minimum competency to swing a golf club (thankfully, because I'm a hacker)

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I have lurked on this thread for awhile.

I think the golfer is responsible for paying the deductible or for the damage, whichever is less. I don't understand how some of you think a homeowner should pay for you hitting their house.

Now the homeowner may not like making a claim on the insurance, but that is tough luck. But still do not understand how hitting someone's house is not your responsibility.

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I would agree, but I find it a bit sketchy that the homeowner didn't know if the ball hit the house or a car. Sounds like he's just trying to make a quick buck through his insurance at the OPs expense. How the hell does he not know what or where the damage is??

I would have done the same thing the OP did. Either show me exactly where my ball hit and prove to me that it was caused by my ball or I'm not doing anything. If I'm at fault then I'll do what's necessary to fix this situation. But that sounds like a scam, IMO

I agree completely with what the OP did...I'm definitely on the golfer is responsible side of things, but if he can't prove damage then definitely don't leave your info.

It's pretty simple to tell if a window is broken or not.

I haven't broken anything yet, but I'd say tough ****. You chose to live on a golf course, that's part of it. Sell the other balls that land in your yard if it's that big of a $ issue.

Great... I already don't like that tee shot and now I have to worry about this d-bag's house. I usually aim at the bunker and hit a cut. I KNOW I've double-crossed one or two into a yard over there in the 50 or so times I've played it. I will say it would be a hell of a long shot, and WAAAY left, to hit a car in his driveway. Those houses aren't small.

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Paying a premium for danger, damage, and lack of privacy has always seemed nuts to me.

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This.

I'll pay for a window when a baseball team pays for hitting someone with a foul ball.

Based on some of yalls comments saying the golfer should pay...

If you were on a driving range and the owners house was at the far end and you put one in his house...what would you do? It's no different

I would say the owner is an idiot for putting a driving range there and he wouldn't get any of my money for his window.

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If the golfer goes long, I think it should be the responsibility of the Driving Range not the golfer.

But I have been to many ranges that have signs stating that if you go left right and hit a house/car it is your responsibility as I think it should.

I have also been to many ranges that do not allow drivers for the reason you stated.

I for the record, I don't think the OP did anything wrong because the owner could not show any damage.