Weak. What makes Graglia a racist? You clearly know nothing about him. I realize this is your role, but to call him a racist based on that article is ignorant. Do some research.

A news article vs. some klanhorn's proclamation.
That certainly clinches it.
And tu Darvish is on your side, too.

I realize that reading comprehension is not something that AHOV is known for, but a casual reading of the article suggests that Graglia, a longtime favorite among right wing strict constructionist types, is getting pilloried for being politically incorrect. He did not say that blacks or hispanics are inherently inferior or subhuman or anything of the sort.

What he did say, and what is a pretty common opinion among some on the right and a few of us liberals, is that the culture many of them grow up in is not very good at encouraging excellence and does not castigate one for failure. It is easy landing when you fail, as opposed to say the Asian or Jewish cultures, in which failure is looked down on and excellence considered important and within reach.

There is nothing racist about saying Asians do better than whites, hispanics or blacks because their culture encourages hard work, patience, delayed gratification and accomplishment to a greater degree.

AHOV obviously grew up in a culture that is not particularly supportive of learning how to read for meaning and so he should be forgiven; but he should not be rewarded with a setaside quota for underacheivers, which is what Graglia's group is opposing.

We get it AHOV - you can't quit us.

and yet all the sip trash IS STILL POSTING ON TEXAGS.

In threads about Texas.

OldSnatch admits being racist and is proud of it.
candid_faketsip tries to blimp it away.

Meanwhile, the facts are stubborn. Here's an al-Q'Lanni © frat that denies blacks membership based on race.

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The University of Texas at Austin is investigating a report by a member of Lambda Chi Alpha that the fraternity denied a black student membership because of his race.

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Source
Poor hateful-and-proud-of-it tsips.

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We get it AHOV - you can't quit us.

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Using a line from a movie about gay cowboys...NOT...HELPING...YOUR...CAUSE.

al-Q'Lanni © racism listed in this thread so far:


1. The William Simkins Lynchatorium

2. The R.L. Moore Institute of Advanced Cross-Burning

3. The al-Q'Lanni © arena is still named after a school icon who fought integration, at least according to the ex tsip klaven, er, association.

4. tu still has a racist law professor on the current faculty.

5. tsip frat boys took a break from cornholing each other to throw food and spit on an African-American woman after she bought tickets to one of their cross-burning rallies parties. Then they had her thrown out of their party. Daily Texan

6. The first performance of the Klanhorn alma mater – stolen from a song about railroads – was in blackface. Former tsips Association

7. Here's an al-Q'Lanni © frat that denies blacks membership based on race."The University of Texas at Austin is investigating a report by a member of Lambda Chi Alpha that the fraternity denied a black student membership because of his race." Source


tsip responses refuting those incidents/facts:
1. Nothing
2. Nothing
3. Blimps
4. No he's not. Blimps
5. Nothing.
6. Agreement with racism. Blimp.
7. Nothing

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The fact you know it is from a gay movie, not helping yours.


Just saying that his obsession with Texas is similar to a homosexual crush on a cowboy.

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The fact you know it is from a gay movie, not helping yours.

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My wife loves that movie...I've never watched it and don't plan to ever do so.

candid_tshirt knows nothing of popular culture and how movie quotes go viral. He's too obsessed with posting on Texags to know that kind of stuff.

AHOV, I realize rational argument is not your forte, but could you explain your assertion that Graglia is racist? The fact that Jesse Jackson thinks so is not terribly compelling, considering he has a lengthy history as a race hustler and is as conversant with legal reasoning as your average aphid. So, instead of just falling back on "Bloof says he is a racist" as authority for your assertion, explain what facts you rely on to establish your claim.

Just a few well considered sentences supporting the argument that Graglia is a bigot would suffice. I've been reading the prof for years because he is real real smart, a brilliant scholar and I disagree with his overall approach to legal history. So I am not a huge fan of his, but have never seen anything that suggests he is a racist, which is the assertion you make.

Give it a shot; many engage in intelligent discourse without damage to their mental stability, maybe you can as well.

The "Dance, Agieg,dance" routine won't work, WeeSnatch.
Your issue is with the author of that piece and dozens of others written at the time,pops.

Why, even Hollywood knows about al-Q'Lanni © racism...

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During the Cotton Bowl against the Texas Longhorns Ernie faces even more racism and punishment from the all white team players who work hard at hurting Ernie. Ernie is pushed to the extreme and is injured as well as faces bad officiating by the all white team and officials.
Movie review

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I remember that Cotton Bowl game with Syracuse. Still remember the score, 23-14, and it was not that close. I was about 12 at the time.

And Texas disgraced itself for sure.

Now, we were discussing Lino Graglia, whom you called a racist. Got anything to back it up besides a football game he didn't play in?

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you're in your 60s posting on another school's site, one that your team allegedly doesn't give a **** about. what a pathetic way to spend your retirement

There's a link, WeeSnatch. Click it.

I don't speak on behalf of any school or team and I am not now and never will be retired.

And where is the link, AHOV, or is it missing, like the ones between your synapses?

And if you are talking about the article in the New York Times, it just mentions some allegations by that great American race baiter, JJ the Clown. I am asking about what evidence you have to support your repeated allegation that Lino Graglia is a racist.

Poor WeeSnatch. He's digging in his heels on that racist law professor and ignoring the other deplorable, proven acts of tu racism.

I think the world is a few funerals away from being a decent place.(hint hint)

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You stupid old MFer. Have the hospice nurse scroll over the first page of the thread if you can't figure it out.

I am not ignoring racism at UT. I witnessed some of it when I was a student there, though it was by frats and not by faculty members. I am not challenging any assertion that there has been racism at UT or that there is some now.

I am challenging your repeated assertion that Lino Graglia is a racist.

Your link is the story in the NY Times, which pardon me if I don't take as absolute gospel.

Graglia's remarks that are quoted are not racist, they merely recite what should be obvious to anybody: some cultures are good at boosting their members' chances for success and some are not so good at it. There has to be an explanation for the low levels of performance of some students. Racists generally just say they are inherently stupid or less intelligent and aint it a shame.

That is not what Graglia says. He says the cultures many of them come from are not supportive and are more accepting of failure. Anybody who has grown up in or around one of those cultures is likely to agree with that.

If your parents just shrug when you get caught stealing or puffing weed when you are a kid, your chances of success later on are not as good as if you are raised in a family that demands sublimation of desire and attention to the skills that allow success. Which is why I used to take my stepsons to the UT library at night after football games and point out that the only people there, as a rule, were the asians. They weren't smarter, just more oriented to achieving success than the kids who were out getting stoned or drunk.

NOthing racist about it. Now where is your evidence, if you have any. And yelling about how old I am is not evidence; it is symptomatic of poor reasoning abilities. Ad hominem attacks are a deflective device, not reasoning.

Why do folks continue to respond to AHOV's dumbass bait threads?

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The professor, Lino Graglia, said at a news conference last week that black and Mexican-American students were ''not academically competitive'' with white students at the nation's top universities.

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The minority students' inability to compete, Professor Graglia said, ''is the result primarily of cultural effects. They have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace.''

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1- 8 WHEREAS, Professor Graglia has recently stated that "Blacks
1- 9 and Mexican-Americans are not academically competitive with
1-10 whites in selective institutions. It is the result
1-11 primarily of cultural effects. It seems to be the case
1-12 that, various studies seem to show blacks and
1-13 Mexican-Americans spend much less time in school. They have
1-14 a culture that seems not to encourage achievement. Failure
1-15 is not looked upon with disgrace."; and

1-16 WHEREAS, Lino Graglia used the term "Pickaninny" to describe
1-17 blacks in his class; and

1-18 WHEREAS, in 1979, Lino Graglia urged residents of Austin,
1-19 Texas, to break the law and disregard court ordered busing;
1-20 and

1-21 WHEREAS, he once stated that "I do not see the benefit for
1-22 white children mixing with 'lower classes' because 'lower
1-23 socioeconomic classes' perform less well in school and tend
1-24 toward greater violent behavior"; and

1-25 WHEREAS, Lino Graglia has a history of making racist
1-26 comments and because of those comments had his nomination
1-27 for judge of the Federal Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals
1-28 withdrawn under then President Reagan

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From Graglia:

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Racial discrimination in higher education does not typically stop
with admission, but extends to the grant, often automatic, of financial
benefits. At the University of Texas Law School, for example, the
specially admitted children of well-off black professionals—judges,
lawyers, doctors, businessmen—were automatically awarded unneeded
financial aid that better qualified white students in real need were
denied. My colleagues frequently point out to me that, as a believer in
free markets, I am in no position to object to this. The blacks are
simply selling what the school thinks it needs, black faces, and in a
market economy, you must expect to pay for your needs

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Indeed, blacks who apply to institutions
of higher education are typically among the most advantaged.

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Black, ethnic, and “multicultural” studies will
have to be added to the curriculum, and grading standards will have to
be changed. As it would be self-defeating to permit open discussions
of racial preference, “hate-speech” codes will have to be adopted,
“political correctness” enforced, and “sensitivity training” programs
instituted.

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AHOV, you really should give up on the Graglia deal. I realize you want to link in as many incidents as you can to show that tu is a racist institution and that A&M, by comparison, is a bastion of diversity and tolerance, but it's really weak to accuse someone you know little about of being a racist. As Brennan said in Step Brothers, "now you're sounding stupid."

More compelling evidence to counter the facts. If the white hood fits, wear it proudly.

Any comment on the other six links, or are you conveniently ignoring those?

damn the sips are ****ing worried about being called racists. unbelievable.

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I realize you want to link in as many incidents as you can to show that tu is a racist institution and that A&M, by comparison, is a bastion of diversity and tolerance

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Then you have no idea why he's doing it. He's doing it because certain outspoken idiots have talked about how redneck and racist A&M is...and they just so happen to be sips...

They ignore six links, pick one to whine over, but offer nothing of substance other than simple declarations that they're right.

That's it. That's all.

They're going to freak as this thread continues to grow, link by link, day by day.

At some point, one of the real crazies will post a series of four links. They will not read the links first. The links will all be about one alleged incident, including a casual reference to it, a letter to the editor about it, and two op-ed pieces, most of them from Batt.

If Graglia called black students pickaninnies and said the ethnic minorities were per se not up to snuff, I would agree he is racist. I've been reading his stuff for thirty years and never came across it. The other things he says in the quotes from the poster who actually tries to contribute some support for AHOV's accusation seem to me to be true. I have known upper middle class hispanic kids who got into elite schools because of their ethnicity and did well enough but would not have been admitted if they were Smith or Jones. Every time that happens, someone else who has better grades and better test scores doesn't get in and has to go to a lesser school, which is the point of the group Graglia is sponsoring at UT.

I always got into whatever school I applied for except Rice and so I have no personal beef but do think preferential admissions for ethnics are unfair (like life) and unconstitutional.

Cool story, pops.

Six other links....GO!

I guess I'll save the rest of these links then.

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Why do folks continue to respond to AHOV's dumbass bait threads?

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Hi patch. Paying for stars again so you won't get banned? Awesome. I love how staff deletes your threads/posts but keeps your money.