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Tech and Baylor gain ground on A&M in in state recruiting due to A&M's decreased in state exposure.

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Perhaps you have heard of an invention called the "Television". As it turns out, SEC games are "broadcast" on the "TV". Isn't that weird?

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Only place in Texas for high school recruits to watch A&M will be in college station. Tech and Baylor gain ground on A&M in in state recruiting due to A&M's decreased in state exposure.

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They see me trollin.

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Was the Rice game on ESPN last year?

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It was. ESPN NATIONAL.

As far as SEC conference games the week after thanksgiving...only two SEC schools get to play in that one. If we're playing against an SEC school the day after Thanksgiving, it will be in Atlanta.

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Only place in Texas for high school recruits to watch A&M will be in college station

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Oh Noes! CBS doesn't exist outside of Bryan/College Station, does it?

These people seem to forget we are right in the middle of Texas and will be recruiting heavier than before between Dallas, San Antonio, Asstin, Houston, and East Texas. I don't think people will forgt who we are, especially if we roll through with a strong record this year.

Dr. Loftin.. Get us the hell out of this big12-? bs please!!! ASAP!!!

Mason ~ Here's the deal dumbarse. High School kids unlike your bunch aren't scared of competition. They'll want to play at Texas A&M in order to compete against the best. Texas High School players aren't poozies, you freakin' sips are the poozies...

I really don't get it why aggies want to keep the game that much. If you wanted to keep it, you'd stay. Do you want to keep your annual game with Baylor and Tech, too?

Good luck in the SEC, seriously. You've chosen to walk away from this rivalry to get out of our shadow and you're out of it.

We have walked away from the rivalry. We are now asking you if you would like to agree to a new Big 12 vs. SEC rivalry game between our two schools. Well, our school and your t-shirt school. What do you say?

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I really don't get it why aggies want to keep the game that much. If you wanted to keep it, you'd stay.

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Why does it have to be both when Florida-Florida St, Georgia-GT, and Clemson-SC play instate rivals out of conference? It's perfectly doable if texas would stop pouting.

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Do you want to keep your annual game with Baylor and Tech, too?

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No, they aren't major rivals. A&M-texas is, because it represents the state.

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You've chosen to walk away from this rivalry to get out of our shadow and you're out of it.

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Wrong. We've chosen to walk away from an unstable conference with crappy leadership and into a better one. We're not walking away from a rivalry. Nice try though.

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We have walked away from the rivalry. We are now asking you if you would like to agree to a new Big 12 vs. SEC rivalry game between our two schools. Well, our school and your t-shirt school. What do you say?

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If I was going to pick an annual out of conference game for texas to play with an SEC school, I would pick Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida or Tennessee before A&M.

Outside of the SEC but ahead of A&M I would also take ND, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State or USC. And I'm sure there's a few others I'm not thinking of. Maybe Wisconsin.

Now obviously it's unlikely that there would be immediate mutual interest from those schools, so chances are that at least near term Texas will have a couple of crappy OOC games and one or two more interesting ones, but I wouldn't want Texas to give up the chance to start new rivalries by maintaining an obsolete routine indefinately.

It's not that I don't love the annual tradition with A&M, but y'all decided to end it and restarting it when there's better potential options out there doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Texas.

Why would it make sense for you?

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If I was going to pick an annual out of conference game for texas to play with an SEC school, I would pick Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida or Tennessee before A&M.

Outside of the SEC but ahead of A&M I would also take ND, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State or USC. And I'm sure there's a few others I'm not thinking of. Maybe Wisconsin.

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You are the epitome of arrogance. If you wanted to play those schools, you would play them. But you aren't. You are playing Rice, UCLA at its worst, and BYU. You play ULaLa routinely. You played Wyoming.

The facts are not on your side.

1. We offered to play you, you said no.
2. You have made contractual obligations to interfere in Texas A&M raising its own media revenue.
3. You have made contractual obligations to limit the overall revenue of the Big 12 conference.

Therefore, we are leaving, and we will make as much if not more money in the SEC than you will make in the Big 12-2-1+1.

Good luck selling out your stadium without us on the schedule, you will soon understand that you need the game way, way more than we need the game. You will host ISU, Baylor, Tech, and OSU. We will host Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, and LSU. Who is going to be able to consistently fill 95% of their stadium at the prices that the ADs demand?

The fact is, your fans are already throwing fits for spending $7k on tickets in 2012.

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but y'all decided to end it

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No.

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and restarting it when there's better potential options out there doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Texas.

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"We're scared".

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Why would it make sense for you?

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Because we are the flagship institutions of the state. We are talking about a football game here. I don't see how it is relevant whether we are in the same conference or not as to whether the rivalry and tradition matter to people.

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If I was going to pick an annual out of conference game for texas to play with an SEC school, I would pick Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida or Tennessee before A&M.

Outside of the SEC but ahead of A&M I would also take ND, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State or USC. And I'm sure there's a few others I'm not thinking of. Maybe Wisconsin.

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I get it, you don't want to play A&M. You probably could have just saved the time and said that instead of listing all those schools.

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Now obviously it's unlikely that there would be immediate mutual interest from those schools, so chances are that at least near term Texas will have a couple of crappy OOC games and one or two more interesting ones, but I wouldn't want Texas to give up the chance to start new rivalries by maintaining an obsolete routine indefinately.

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I don't know, maintaining an obsolete routine seems to be right up your alley. You are staying in the Big 12, afterall. But A&M isn't an obsolete routine, we both know that. texas is upset, and this is how they're responding.

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It's not that I don't love the annual tradition with A&M, but y'all decided to end it

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We're not the ones refusing to play, texas is. They're deciding to end it. Sad really. But now you can look forward to the annual tradition of playing Iowa State, Kansas State, OSU, tech, and baylor at home without that pesky Lone Star rivalry. Too bad texas had to end it, but times change.

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and restarting it when there's better potential options out there doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Texas.

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You can't restart something unless it stops. It hasn't stopped yet, but it appears texas will let it stop after this season. BYU, Ole Miss, and Rice aren't better potential options.

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Why would it make sense for you?

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Because it's one of the most recognized rivalries in college football, and great for the state of Texas. But since texas is pouting and refusing to continue it, I guess 100 years of tradition will go away. Small price to pay for getting to play better programs like Alabama and Florida I suppose.

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1. We offered to play you, you said no.
2. You have made contractual obligations to interfere in Texas A&M raising its own media revenue.
3. You have made contractual obligations to limit the overall revenue of the Big 12 conference.

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A bit hyperbolic but whatever- A&M has options and is exercising them. Good for you.

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Good luck selling out your stadium without us on the schedule, you will soon understand that you need the game way, way more than we need the game. You will host ISU, Baylor, Tech, and OSU. We will host Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, and LSU. Who is going to be able to consistently fill 95% of their stadium at the prices that the ADs demand?

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If we win we'll fill it up. One game against A&M (or anybody) doesn't dictate interest in the program. That's just silly.

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Because we are the flagship institutions of the state. We are talking about a football game here. I don't see how it is relevant whether we are in the same conference or not as to whether the rivalry and tradition matter to people.

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Indeed, but you chose otherwise, so good luck.

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Because it's one of the most recognized rivalries in college football, and great for the state of Texas. But since texas is pouting and refusing to continue it, I guess 100 years of tradition will go away. Small price to pay for getting to play better programs like Alabama and Florida I suppose.

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See? We agree.

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Thanks for admitting that it is all fear. We were fairly certain, but it is always nice to have confirmation.

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A&M has options and is exercising them. Good for you.

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Indeed. Too bad texas doesn't feel the same way, since they're refusing to continue the series.

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If we win we'll fill it up. One game against A&M (or anybody) doesn't dictate interest in the program. That's just silly.

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No, but A&M is easily the biggest home draw, outside of a once-in-50-year visit from Ohio State or Notre Dame. It's good for the state of Texas. And conference affiliation doesn't matter, just like Florida-Florida State.

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quote:Because it's one of the most recognized rivalries in college football, and great for the state of Texas. But since texas is pouting and refusing to continue it, I guess 100 years of tradition will go away. Small price to pay for getting to play better programs like Alabama and Florida I suppose.

See? We agree.

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Glad you came around in agreeing that texas is pouting and refusing to continue the rivalry. I guess we do agree. That wasn't so bad, was it?

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OK. Like I said, congratulations.

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No, but A&M is easily the biggest home draw, outside of a once-in-50-year visit from Ohio State or Notre Dame. It's good for the state of Texas. And conference affiliation doesn't matter, just like Florida-Florida State.

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Not sure what you mean. it's a good TV event, and aggies travel well to Austin, but last season, for example our highest attendance was Wyoming at 101,339. The attendance for A&M was 100,752, about 1000 higher than our game with FAU, 99,759.

We sell out our games.

Yeah, you had 99,759 there for FAU. Sure thing, buddy.

Bozo, why are y'all so afraid of this game?

I said we sell out our games.

Most school's sellout when they're winning big. I would image every game at Kyle Field this season, regardless of opponent, will have at least 86,000-87,000.

But when teams aren't winning, they draw higher crowds for certain games. A&M is one of those games for texas. It's also typically one of the marquee home games in terms of competition compared to the rest, with the RRS being in Dallas.

gigem, we sell out our home games. I wish we didn't, because then the AD would stop scheduling creampuffs, but we do. Even last year when we sucked.

Bozo, you don't enjoy going to see games like rice, BYU, etc. at home?

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gigem, we sell out our home games.

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While Mack's been there.

Yes, for the last 13 years we sell out our game. The BYU game was pretty cool. Rice is meh. I like playing Wyoming. The fans are really great.

The worst are the Louisiana and Florida directionals. Blech.

And when you don't sell them out and have as strong of fan interest, A&M is still a major draw if not the biggest.

when do we not sell them out?

I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but I can't find any data that bears that out. A&M sells out, but so does everything else, at least over the last decade.

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when do we not sell them out?

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You weren't selling out every game in the 80's and 90's before Mack got there. And when he leaves and your program cycles down, it will happen again. It happens most places.

No, but A&M wasn't selling out as recently in 2009, and we were the biggest draw at Kyle Field.

I get your point, but it's more true at your place than at ours. Look Aggies and Horns are different. When your team is bad you care about beating Texas. When our team is bad we lose interest altogether or not at all.

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No, but A&M wasn't selling out as recently in 2009, and we were the biggest draw at Kyle Field.

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Incorrect. texas, OU, and tech were all the biggest draws, not just texas. And Nebraska set the record last year.

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I get your point, but it's more true at your place than at ours.

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Don't see how you can prove that. It's just a simple fact that when programs aren't winning, certain games are more well attended. This happened to texas when they were losing, just like it's happened at A&M when we were losing. It happens at a number of places.

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Look Aggies and Horns are different. When your team is bad you care about beating Texas. When our team is bad we lose interest altogether or not at all.

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Wrong. Having been a student during A&M's recent bad seasons and actually attended games, I can tell you A&M cared pretty equally about beating texas, OU, and tech when they came to Kyle Field. We didn't just care about beating texas. I wouldn't expect you to know that though. As for texas fans, it's true they're very fairweather. But when you were bad, the A&M games still meant something. Heck, you guys even stormed Kyle Field in 1995 after having beaten us for the 2nd time in 11 years.

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someone please post a pic of ANY of last years games in DKR, sold out my foot!