bryanisbest- just because someone's post is right below yours, it does t mean they are talking to you.

Uhhh. Wrong. Gary is a great guy. A joy to talk to and be around. His teams have traditionally underperformed. Match up talent vs talent. Gary had 1 squad over perform....2011. Had 2 squads perform to expectations and the rest have been disappointing. Gary had one squad over perform at Arkansas and several at SFA underperform. Those are the facts. Vic pretty much ran 2/3 of practice while here. He would have the ladies as perennial top 5.

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Uhhh. Wrong. Gary is a great guy. A joy to talk to and be around. His teams have traditionally underperformed. Match up talent vs talent. Gary had 1 squad over perform....2011. Had 2 squads perform to expectations and the rest have been disappointing. Gary had one squad over perform at Arkansas and several at SFA underperform. Those are the facts. Vic pretty much ran 2/3 of practice while here. He would have the ladies as perennial top 5.

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Ok. But he isn't leaving Texas so soon. So if Blair leaves, who are we getting?

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Uhhh. Wrong. Gary is a great guy. A joy to talk to and be around. His teams have traditionally underperformed. Match up talent vs talent. Gary had 1 squad over perform....2011. Had 2 squads perform to expectations and the rest have been disappointing. Gary had one squad over perform at Arkansas and several at SFA underperform. Those are the facts. Vic pretty much ran 2/3 of practice while here. He would have the ladies as perennial top 5.

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This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here

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Maybe Blair could get himself another year by firing Starkey

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Need some help offensively as well. Morris aint it
Need more scorers

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Morris was hitting early in the year but not these last few games.

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it's hard to hit when you hand the ball to the ither team first.

If Blair retired I believe Vic would want to come back to his alma mater assuming the money was right.

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Still love my Aggie women's basketball and this team has had an incredible run. It didn't end like I hoped for, but I a damn proud of them!

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I love the Aggies -- all Aggies -- but this wasn't an incredible run. Not for this team. Arizona had maybe ONE player that could have started for A&M, and that's iffy. I won't even comment on the other 2 teams we beat. We were way outcoached today and looked like we were out of shape* and tired from the opening tip. You can blame the threes, and that's indeed part of it as out perimeter defense wasn't very good, but the methodical, spread the front court and stand around offense is laughable. What's worse is, with the talent we have, if we run and constantly go to the hole, we'll blow out all but the absolute best in WBB.

We're one of the best rebounding WBB teams I've ever seen (hence the need to run) and where are we on the offensive boards once a shot goes up? Headed back the other way! Huh? Backcourt offense against the press looked like a high school JV team -- almost like our players didn't want to be back there, so they were hoping to get a long pass from those that were.

Yes, Blair needs to retire. Great guy and great coach but 2011 was a decade ago and his repeated underperformances at the tournament (relative to seeds) is now taking over his career, I'm sorry to say. I'll always love the guy and always be glad that he was here but if he stays, it isn't in the program's best interests.

*I think we were out of shape. How else do you explain the multiple point blank misses in the second half. There aren't any excuses here. Not only does a good coach keep his team in top shape, he teaches them how to play tired.

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If Blair retired I believe Vic would want to come back to his alma mater assuming the money was right.

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After 1 season?

Divining Rod said:

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bryanisbest- you should go back and read the various comments so you know who said what. and here's a helpful hint:

just because someone's post is right below yours, it does t mean they are talking to you.

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Stay in your English class. You will get it eventually

Times like these make me appreciate what a GOAT we had in Danielle Adams.

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If Blair retired I believe Vic would want to come back to his alma mater assuming the money was right.

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He already makes 2x what Gary does. Ain't happening.

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Uhhh. Wrong. Gary is a great guy. A joy to talk to and be around. His teams have traditionally underperformed. Match up talent vs talent. Gary had 1 squad over perform....2011. Had 2 squads perform to expectations and the rest have been disappointing. Gary had one squad over perform at Arkansas and several at SFA underperform. Those are the facts. Vic pretty much ran 2/3 of practice while here. He would have the ladies as perennial top 5.

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This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here

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I don't know why you think its dumb. Other than the last 2 sentences (and perhaps the Ark and SFA references), which I don't know for sure about, everything else is factually correct.

You not liking something doesn't make it dumb. And since you didn't engage in argument, we'll assume you accept the stated assertions as fact.

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I am fine with that. But I hope we make a good hire if he does.

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My fear for some time has been we'll get to a point we can't. We start out uphill anyway because we don't have the support for basketball (even when good) there is elsewhere.. Retirement can let a coach leave gracefully while the program is more or less respected.

Maybe I have more information and know more people involved in the program than you. I've also followed Gary's career for 30 years.

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jt3116 said:

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Uhhh. Wrong. Gary is a great guy. A joy to talk to and be around. His teams have traditionally underperformed. Match up talent vs talent. Gary had 1 squad over perform....2011. Had 2 squads perform to expectations and the rest have been disappointing. Gary had one squad over perform at Arkansas and several at SFA underperform. Those are the facts. Vic pretty much ran 2/3 of practice while here. He would have the ladies as perennial top 5.

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This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here

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I don't know why you think its dumb. Other than the last 2 sentences (and perhaps the Ark and SFA references), which I don't know for sure about, everything else is factually correct.

You not liking something doesn't make it dumb. And since you didn't engage in argument, we'll assume you accept the stated assertions as fact.

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Well let's see. Since 2011 the Aggie have only underperformed their seed 3 times. One was an upset by Little Rock, and the other two were losses to a 6 seed as a 3, and a 5 seed as a 4. If you want to call those last two underperforming sure but the matchups are basically even. The other teams all lost in the rounds they were supposed to or over achieved. They've won a national title at a school that has an absolutely horrendous history in women's basketball and have been to the second weekend 4 times and who knows what would've happened last year.

And those are the facts

So, it was a very bad day at the office. **** happens.

The SEC championship makes it a special year. Congratulations, players and coaches.

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fitzwatema said:

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Still love my Aggie women's basketball and this team has had an incredible run. It didn't end like I hoped for, but I a damn proud of them!

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I love the Aggies -- all Aggies -- but this wasn't an incredible run. Not for this team. Arizona had maybe ONE player that could have started for A&M, and that's iffy. I won't even comment on the other 2 teams we beat. We were way outcoached today and looked like we were out of shape* and tired from the opening tip. You can blame the threes, and that's indeed part of it as out perimeter defense wasn't very good, but the methodical, spread the front court and stand around offense is laughable. What's worse is, with the talent we have, if we run and constantly go to the hole, we'll blow out all but the absolute best in WBB.

We're one of the best rebounding WBB teams I've ever seen (hence the need to run) and where are we on the offensive boards once a shot goes up? Headed back the other way! Huh? Backcourt offense against the press looked like a high school JV team -- almost like our players didn't want to be back there, so they were hoping to get a long pass from those that were.

Yes, Blair needs to retire. Great guy and great coach but 2011 was a decade ago and his repeated underperformances at the tournament (relative to seeds) is now taking over his career, I'm sorry to say. I'll always love the guy and always be glad that he was here but if he stays, it isn't in the program's best interests.

*I think we were out of shape. How else do you explain the multiple point blank misses in the second half. There aren't any excuses here. Not only does a good coach keep his team in top shape, he teaches them how to play tired.

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Wow, that's a lot of comeback to me when I was only trying to say I thought the team had a good run this year! I said earlier on a post that one player shouldn't beat A&M, I have said many times (not in this thread) I don't care for Starkey's defenses and I have not said anything about Blair in this thread one way or another.

We have a very good coach and this was a very good team. Gary Blair's program is among our best and so far above our historic WBB programs there is no comparison. With that said I think we had a bad matchup for us in the last two games and we didn't respond...at all. In fact we played into UA's hands half the night. Our chances to close the gap by turning UA over were consistently followed up by our own turnover or a missed layup. Same against ISU but, because we were able to pull a rabbit out of the hat, we didn't have to dwell on it. But again, I think it came down to the matchups...a quicker team exploiting their advantage and taking our game away. Great coaching on their part.

Not my favorite ending. But we exceeded expectations with the two bid and it looked like a deep run was possible. Arizona played within their game plan and held us under 66 while they a mere eight points above their average. Their 3pt percentage was the only scoring rate that was exceptional with 44.8% with MacDonald at 50% above hee 39.6% rate over the season. Great players step up and she did.

We clearly had holes our game they exposed tonight. Even with Jordan we lacked the extra step they had.

I think trying to make people who support Gary look like villains is a terrible look for our university. I'll argue still that he deserves to go out on his own terms and should be given until he misses the tournament to make that decision on his own. He built the program from nothing. Those suggesting they know better lack wisdom. You might even be correct that replacing him results in an immediate change. But he has dedicated his entire career to boosting women's basketball and just his service at Oak Cliff deserves more caution in Texas.

I linked an article that talks about that. Read it.

Just got home from the game. Out coached and out hustled....sad to say it, but that's what it was.
Hate that it had to end for the ladies like this. I really enjoyed this team.

I think the Vic ship has sailed. We had a couple of prime windows. A good AD would have had a chat with Gary about retiring either prior to Vics departure making him head coach designate or after he'd been at State a few years- and indeed he was getable - then.

Never Vic the backstabber.

lol @ the coaching.

Turnovers! Can't have 19 turnovers and not create any and expect to win. It happens and we made many silly mistakes, but a few less turnovers and a few more made baskets and the game would have turned.

It just wasn't our night.

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So, it was a very bad day at the office. **** happens.

The SEC championship makes it a special year. Congratulations, players and coaches.

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Actually, it was kind of a bad two weeks at the office after a nice two months...

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Never Vic the backstabber.

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Vic left because he got tired of waiting, indefinitely, for the HC job. He showed what he could do at MSU and then cashed-in at tu. It is arguable that he has been a better coach than GB for years.

Leaving A&M to get the HC credential and then making bank at tu were good business decisions. Initially, it was our loss and, ultimately, it's tu's gain for years to come.

The initial loss to LSU then the close wins over Troy and Isu and finally the hammer by ax reveals the fast, quick offense and tight, pressuring defense are the new women's bb. Gary's tradional half court methodical system is not competitive against the the new young up beat coaches. Grateful we have some kids who are terrific grinders and competitors but our scheme doesn't fair well for them against quickness. Gary maybe should take a long look how his traditional scheme is doing against the speed and quick pressure games.
That is a pure layman's opinion but to use an ol' term, we're being out quicked. Can our current girls adapt to this style of play?

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The initial loss to LSU then the close wins over Troy and Isu and finally the hammer by ax reveals the fast, quick offense and tight, pressuring defense are the new women's bb. Gary's tradional half court methodical system is not competitive against the the new young up beat coaches. Grateful we have some kids who are terrific grinders and competitors but our scheme doesn't fair well for them against quickness. Gary maybe should take a long look how his traditional scheme is doing against the speed and quick pressure games.
That is a pure layman's opinion but to use an ol' term, we're being out quicked. Can our current girls adapt to this style of play?

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What time is the first football game?

Watch the video when they get off of the bus. She's been wearing it since the Alabama game.

Broke the bubble immediately after the last game.

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Broke the bubble immediately after the last game.

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Do you know why?

I don't recall anyone naming Vic the Head Coach in Waiting. I would hope we'd look at Kelly Bond White, but she doesn't appear to have an attitude that she is entitled to being the next head coach.

I'm very grateful for the quality of young women that we have had in our basketball teams. N'Dea, Kayla, and the rest will always make us proud. Do I wish we had advanced? Sure! We all do. But, we are nowhere near as disappointed as these young ladies who have sacrificed so much. Could we not just honor that sacrifice and say, "well done?"

That style is definitely the achilles heal for this team, but it is not the thing taking over women's basketball. Of all the teams you just named, Arkansas was the best and they will most likely be the weakest Final Four team in the field if the get there, and they and Indiana may be weakest Elite 8 Teams after tomorrows games.

Don't misunderstand, they definite deserved it after the game against A&M, but the true elite programs can adapt to multiple styles of play and don't let every scrappy team dictate their style of game. That is the problem that people are pointing out. GB teams often just don't live up to expectations in a tournament style setting, and never seem "match up proof".

Mind blowing stat from the game:

Points off turnovers:
Arizona 28
Texas A&M 2

If you noticed, we did make changes to counter their pressure. And it was was working...we had 3-4 breaks with decisive advantage and missed layups or made bad passes to squander it. That failure was execution, not strategy.

At the end of the day the season was a success. Whomever replaces Gary is going to have to have more fire, passion and feel for today's game. Everything that went on with the Women's tournament was disgraceful and we need someone more vocal on the issues with the game. I love Gary and hope wholeheartedly that he stays but if a change is made it has to be someone more in tune with the girls. The Chennedy/Anriel debacle proved that. We do not recruit at the level of Baylor, Stanford, or even Notre Dame and I think that boils down to a younger, possibly female coach who can better relate to these players. Gary has done more for this program and the game than many others out there but the game is changing faster than we are as a program.