Ragoo said:

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I am back to taking the bus because it got so expensive to drive into the office. Even just 3 days a week.

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jamey said:

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Are those who are just now returning to work going to get smacked in the face by the inflationary costs thst were partially hidden by working at home which the the rest of us have been facing?

I did a quick calculation and came up with working from home saves a solid 5K/yr, or a little more than 400 a month.

I returned to work back in Nov of 2020 but I gotta say I was a little jealous of my homebody coworkers, hence checking the math on gas cost and wear and tear on my vehicle. I even ran it past my boss and he had come up with a similar number


Anyway, since the new year the drive home is noticeably longer due to more traffic than I've seen since early March 2020.

People are bound to notice the monthly cost increase. From mid March 2020 to Nov 2020 I put gas in my truck twice. I missed those cheaper days back then but that was a long time ago for those of us that been back at work the last few years.

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jamey said:

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Lots of variables from the kids age and how difficult they are to how accommodating the job is.

But bottom line for a lot of parents going back to work there's no choice now.

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• Prior to lockdowns she was working 9 of 10 days a week in office; +/-80 miles round trip
• She worked from home during most of the lock down (maybe 1 trip into the office every 2 weeks)
• Post lock down she works 3 days a week in office

• I've been W@H long before any of the pandemic and still W@H now

YouBet said:

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jamey said:

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Lots of variables from the kids age and how difficult they are to how accommodating the job is.

But bottom line for a lot of parents going back to work there's no choice now.

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No choice because there literally isn't one? Or no choice because they simply don't want to go back to it?

I completely acknowledge the cost burden that daycare is but it does seem to be a "not my problem" from the employer standpoint. We made it work for decades until COVID happened and now all of a sudden people say it can't be done. It can be done; you just go back to sacrificing or a spouse decides to stay at home.

It's as if we suddenly can't adapt as a species now. Now, if humanity is colluding, if you will, and are all demanding that kids now require the parent to have WFH as an option then maybe you can dictate to the market that it be so. And maybe that is where we are.

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techno-ag said:

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jamey said:

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Are those who are just now returning to work going to get smacked in the face by the inflationary costs thst were partially hidden by working at home which the the rest of us have been facing?

I did a quick calculation and came up with working from home saves a solid 5K/yr, or a little more than 400 a month.

I returned to work back in Nov of 2020 but I gotta say I was a little jealous of my homebody coworkers, hence checking the math on gas cost and wear and tear on my vehicle. I even ran it past my boss and he had come up with a similar number


Anyway, since the new year the drive home is noticeably longer due to more traffic than I've seen since early March 2020.

People are bound to notice the monthly cost increase. From mid March 2020 to Nov 2020 I put gas in my truck twice. I missed those cheaper days back then but that was a long time ago for those of us that been back at work the last few years.

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Get ready for even higher gas now that the election is over. Uncle Joe is not manipulating the price anymore with SPR releases and other chicanery.

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jamey said:

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YouBet said:

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jamey said:

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Lots of variables from the kids age and how difficult they are to how accommodating the job is.

But bottom line for a lot of parents going back to work there's no choice now.

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No choice because there literally isn't one? Or no choice because they simply don't want to go back to it?

I completely acknowledge the cost burden that daycare is but it does seem to be a "not my problem" from the employer standpoint. We made it work for decades until COVID happened and now all of a sudden people say it can't be done. It can be done; you just go back to sacrificing or a spouse decides to stay at home.

It's as if we suddenly can't adapt as a species now. Now, if humanity is colluding, if you will, and are all demanding that kids now require the parent to have WFH as an option then maybe you can dictate to the market that it be so. And maybe that is where we are.

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No choice because you can't leave a 3 year old at home alone.


And I'm just saying it's going to be an increased cost for many


I mean we drove into to work for decades pre covid too. It's still about t9 be a significant cost increase.

This is not a work from home debate. I'm talking about the real cost change for millions

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Red Pear BCS Luke said:

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jamey said:

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I forgot whats probably the biggest smack in the face cost for some.

Daycare


When me and my wife both worked from home that cost was 0. When I went back to work it was a bit much for my wife alone who's company was not big on kids in the background.


$1250 a month or 15K a year.


Add that to the gas, and tolls not to mention wear and tear in a car...


Some folks are looking at 20K

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That $1250 is only for one kid. What happens when you have two or three? Those costs explode. Even if you're getting a 10% discount for multiples.

Add on top of that - how many of your households depend upon BOTH spouses working to maintain it? Either one spouse goes down to be FTP or you find ways to add a 2nd mortgage to your monthly costs/budget.

And then of course - you can't forget about those companies who think a 2% raise for the year in the face of inflation at 7%+ is acceptable, when it's just confirmation of further erosion of a person's purchasing power. To me, it just seems like people are being squeezed from every angle. Only a matter of time before something breaks.

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