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LatinAggie1997
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Thought I posted this yesterday. A good trend is setting especially if the next elections search for additional rally topics.

https://dailyhodl.com/2023/05/05/north-carolina-house-of-representatives-passes-bill-that-would-ban-state-from-using-and-participating-in-cbdc-testing/
LatinAggie1997
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Ok, some agree and many don't; I am on the side that many things will change. I see the current financial system as newspapers (print) and digital assets as the web.
I have opined that governments, institutions, companies, and individuals, will use blockchain. The best manner is not for them to employ blockchain departments and create their own but to adopt and build using existing ecosystems and blockchains.
The teams of founders and devs that believe in the pilars of "crypto" are ahead of the game and far more adept and innovative.
Imo, many industries and sectors will eventually draw the same conclusions as one Google employee with AI.


https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither
LatinAggie1997
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Fortune picked up the above memo.

https://fortune.com/2023/05/05/google-engineer-says-no-moat-artificial-intelligence-warren-buffett/
LatinAggie1997
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Morning rant.

Government likely to continue to print money, make too big to fail even bigger, change normal investing practices in favor of big banks, and force the public to swallow all of it. Whatever it takes to maintain the elite's status quo doesn't work for me.

Open source, digital assets, dexes, and defi to the rescue.




LatinAggie1997
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https://crypto.news/expert-believes-that-crypto-has-the-potential-to-improve-e-commerce/
BQ2001
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Any thoughts on the new Ledger Recover service? Doesn't seem like the best thing to me sharding out the seed. I know they are getting killed on Reddit but that place is a mess
Definitely Not A Cop
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BQ2001 said:

Any thoughts on the new Ledger Recover service? Doesn't seem like the best thing to me sharding out the seed. I know they are getting killed on Reddit but that place is a mess


What's the backstory on ledger issues? I've seen the ranting on Reddit, but not the reasoning.
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The CEO was on McCormacks podcast defending it and more or less said it's better than custodial solutions like CB. Don't use it if you're not comfortable with it.

You're essentially dividing your seed in thirds and letting three different third parties, in different jurisdictions, store them for you and have a 2 of 3 multisig. You retain the right to recall them but are trusting them to not respond to a state subpoena, or tell you they are with enough time to move the funds, and not collude with the other custodians.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Jesus. That's pretty different than what is advertised. Do all wallets actually work this way?
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MRB10
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Most wallets tell you, the owner, to secure your 24 words and take the responsibility. This ledger service is an attempt to market to people who aren't comfortable with that much responsibility and provide them with another option for a fee.
ac04
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if you want multisig (which is an extremely good idea) and don't feel comfortable setting it up yourself, it makes way more sense to go with a company like unchained or casa where you hold 2/3 keys and they hold one than to give all three to different third parties. no idea why ledger did this or who thought it was a good idea. it's the opposite of holding your own keys.
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Pepper Brooks said:

Most wallets tell you, the owner, to secure your 24 words and take the responsibility. This ledger service is an attempt to market to people who aren't comfortable with that much responsibility and provide them with another option for a fee.


Oh I got you, so it is only for people who specifically choose to use it? If I have my seed code with all 24 words, then there is no way ledger has access to my wallet or identity?
MRB10
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They're saying it's optional but they're pushing it as part of a OS upgrade for all devices. The fact you can't opt to not download it, if you want the latest OS for your device, is unsettling to many people.
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I believe there is a monthly charge for the option, so I'd advise to simply not opt in and go about your business.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Thanks to both! Seem like this gif applies to Reddit.

ac04
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the fact that the option even exists is concerning. it indicates there is a backdoor to grab the seed phrase. even if you don't opt in, you're still required to trust that ledger won't ever pull the seed phrase for any reason.
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ac04 said:

the fact that the option even exists is concerning. it indicates there is a backdoor to grab the seed phrase. even if you don't opt in, you're still required to trust that ledger won't ever pull the seed phrase for any reason.

Quote from the ceo (roughly)
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It's only a problem if the government requests us to turn it over, like for terrorism or drugs. It's highly unlikely.

It's almost like he didn't watch the Canadian trucker fiasco and see Canadians suddenly turn into domestic terrorists, or how quickly a "red hat Trump supporter" can be labeled a domestic terrorist, or parents being labeled Domestic Terrorists for arguing against the school board...

So no, not an overreaction, ledger has stepped in a big ol pile of **** on purpose.
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ac04 said:

the fact that the option even exists is concerning. it indicates there is a backdoor to grab the seed phrase. even if you don't opt in, you're still required to trust that ledger won't ever pull the seed phrase for any reason.
That is where I have ended up, it's pretty concerning. I'm not freaking out now but looking at other options too. I haven't updated mine yet but seems like the backdoor is still there just waiting on the possibility. The PR on this whole thing is terrible though.
Definitely Not A Cop
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The only other real option for a good cold wallet is Trezor, right?
ac04
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trezor is probably the most popular and easiest to use alternative. i am also looking at coldcard which is slightly more complicated but also more secure.
Polska
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Any way to get your contact info?
LatinAggie1997
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https://dailyhodl.com/2023/05/26/billion-dollar-bank-demands-customers-prove-withdrawals-are-valid-warns-cash-can-be-refused-at-will/
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Who all is carrying XRP?

I have been buying a little here and there for the last 6-8 months. Would still like to buy about 2k more before the verdict in their securities case is done(which I think they will win).

If they win the case, XRP should skyrocket. They have been doing a lot lately with their XRP Ledger and On-Demand Liquidity platforms.
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Trezor is the second most user friendly. I use coldcard.
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Polska said:

Any way to get your contact info?

Dm Youbet and ask to get added to "onchain ags"
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will25u
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Welp, yesterday the SEC sued Binance.

Today, Coinbase.

Seems like SEC is on a tear. Bad couple of days for Crypto in the US. But there are a few pieces of legislation working its way through to reign in the SEC some.



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Them suing Coinbase is f'ed.

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Also in April, Coinbase filed a petition for a "writ of mandamus," asking a court to order the SEC to respond to a 2022 plea Coinbase made for the SEC to make a clear set of rules to determine whether or not a token is a security and specify how issuers can legally register with the SEC.


https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/sec-crypto-regulation/#:~:text=SEC%20Chair%20Gary%20Gensler%20has,Howey%20Co.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Them suing Coinbase is f'ed.

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Also in April, Coinbase filed a petition for a "writ of mandamus," asking a court to order the SEC to respond to a 2022 plea Coinbase made for the SEC to make a clear set of rules to determine whether or not a token is a security and specify how issuers can legally register with the SEC.


https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/sec-crypto-regulation/#:~:text=SEC%20Chair%20Gary%20Gensler%20has,Howey%20Co.
And the SEC is suing Coinbase from violations back in 2019, yet allowed them to IPO in 2021?
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Coinbase had the opportunity to onboard the entire planet into bitcoin, but chose to dive into high time preference gambling ****coin ccasino-ery.

I've stood on a soapbox for a number of years to move coins off coinbase despite the first 10 or so praising coinbase for ease of use and walled garden.

I'm excited to see what happens either way. Either the SEC breaks itself or we get more clarity
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Lmao at the government actually selling their Bitcoin on Coinbase yet knowing this since 2019.
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This doesn't even make sense. They have been selling bitcoin this entire time.
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They were originally a bitcoin only company and made a painstaking original decision to list litecoin as well....beginning of the end as they found the $$$ generating potential of ****coin trading more valuable than the mission to direct attention and focus to bitcoin.

Now they are a fat target, full of indiscretions.
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