I didn't say my opinion was valid, just a wish that as we transition that we incorporate 80% more personal responsibility BEFORE we accede it to third parties and institutions.

It's not realistic because we've been bred into domestication for quite awhile via infotainment, attention gambling, low expectations as an American society for awhile.

Doesn't mean I can't hope.

So tell us more about ya ifeelold, which halvening did you jump in the boat? Glad to have ya.

Thoughts on the next 1-5 years as we transition?
Favorite projects?

This is as foreign as saying I wish we'd build our own cars before ceding responsibilities to third parties. We use third parties because they make our lives better and easier.

Using technology efficiently isn't domestication. Bitcoin maximalists are such peacocks.

I got my first btc in 2016. I'm bullish on btc eth and dot and the future will see many use cases for different crypto. Bitcoin maximalists are dumb Luddites that lionized all of the dumbest ideals from Ron Paul, gold bugs and CrossFit.

Not a maxi, but that doesn't prevent labeling from newbies who haven't suffered enough. And I think it's irresponsible to direct people to other tokens without a foundation of knowledge.

You doing anything besides buying these tokens?

It makes sense your position considering your launching point.

Read much about the blocksize wars, segwit, etc yet? Living through it changed my mind about many things.

It's really interesting the timing on the chain predicts the positions one has.

Directing people to buy tokens? Where did I do that? You asked me what cryptos I like and I answered.

I have a node.

My first buy was years after I was introduced.

I'm familiar with all those things and remember following them in real time.

No it doesn't.

Were you a big blocker or a small blocker while it happened?
Has your opinion changed?

Opinion on bitcoin and ESG?

Think fiat will disappear, or is it permanent and nothing one can do about it? Prognostication on year?

I would be a small blocker. I don't care about the white paper and vision of it being a day to day currency. That's clearly not what btc is useful for.

Definitely not the main layer, agreed.

I was a big blocker and largely shut down during that time period. Couldn't believe the infighting amongst people I knew and respected from different events. That was intense. I was excited to see the best philosophy win.

I came around though. Watching BCH and subsequent forks happen was a truly beautiful spectacle to behold, watching philosophical arguments and differences on the future of a world changing technology was something I don't know how to describe.

I really enjoy the philosophical debate happening, the technology is awesome that it let's these debates happen publicly in the open, and everyone has the opportunity to provide actionable input through BIPs and the like. I dunno it's got me completely enraptured.

What are you views on the philosophical implications of a bitcoin standard (or whatever security/token/blockchain/****coin you prefer)?

There is no btc standard and no crypto is going to become a one world currency.

The "philosophical debates" are irrelevant and only philosophical if you are 14 and think it's deep and only paid attention to by dreamy Luddites who have weird purity complexes regarding btc.

The user interface in crypto right now is horrible, and is holding back adoption. I have a really hard time believing that the average person is going to want to remember a seed phrase, or is going to be okay with the fact that if they lose their private key they lose all of their $. I think crypto will eventually be mass adopted, but it a lot of it will depend on intermediaries like coinbase etc.

So game theory plays no role in any of this, in your world?

You're sure full of spunk.

The average person doesn't know anything about Linux, I don't want the average person having a say in any of this.

Kinda like landowners and voting rights after the constitution.

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Not a maxi, but that doesn't prevent labeling from newbies who haven't suffered enough. And I think it's irresponsible to direct people to other tokens without a foundation of knowledge.

You doing anything besides buying these tokens?

It makes sense your position considering your launching point.

Read much about the blocksize wars, segwit, etc yet? Living through it changed my mind about many things.

It's really interesting the timing on the chain predicts the positions one has.

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Counterpoint - Andreas Antonopoulos who clearly has been around for awhile. I'm sure you are also aware of his famous talk on the lion and the shark. BTC is great, but it doesn't do everything and it makes no sense to compare BTC and ETH.

Many other counterpoints here too such as Emin - founder of avalanche who was working on blockchain tech since before BTC. etc

When I said philosophical debates, I was speaking to the game theory that each code represents. And the success of these competitive game theories is represented in arguments across the web and their respective use/price/market dominance.

Like, how does infinitely provable scarcity impact human decision making? How does bitcoin impact business practices? How does bitcoin change international policies? Those types of topics I enjoy postulating on, and have since the good ol Houston bitcoin meetup days.

I'm really curious how many times i can get you to say luddite tonight though.

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When I said philosophical debates, I was speaking to the game theory that each code represents. And the success of these competitive game theories is represented in arguments across the web and their respective use/price/market dominance.

Like, how does infinitely provable scarcity impact human decision making? How does bitcoin impact business practices? How does bitcoin change international policies? Those types of topics I enjoy postulating on, and have since the good ol Houston bitcoin meetup days.

I'm really curious how many times i can get you to say luddite tonight though.

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Luddite Luddite Luddite.

"When I said "philosophical debates" I didn't mean anything specific but any argument that could exist by anyone that may tangentially relate to crypto."

Make whatever point you want. "I'm just talking about any conversation regarding anything " is silly. Throwing out game theory doesn't make you look smart. Take a position and be specific. You sound like a terrible Seinfeld, "what's the deal with economics."

Yeah, andreas has some great books out if you havent dove into them, yet.

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"These technologies as a whole are about changing the trade-offs between security and flexibility. Bitcoin is by far the most secure, the most decentralized and provides robust monetary systems. That's not the purpose of Ethereum and it doesn't compete with Bitcoin at that," he continued.

…That doesn't mean that this technology is useful or useless… does it mean that this technology is interesting? Absolutely.

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I dont disagree that ethereum is interesting, but let's see how it survives endless copycats before any high praise.

Emin, I haven't really paid attn to.

Who and what are you responding to? You sound like a bot.

You don't address anything I say. Oh squirrel! I'm just going to post some other unrelated crap! You don't seem to actually know anything about crypto.

These ****in luddites talking about game theory and why govts will adopt not attack bitcoin.

Since andreas was brought up:






I can't tell if that is a trezor in your pocket or you're just excited to say luddite.

If you look and read it says "replied to capital markets,"

Where did you come from? Lol this is great.

Maybe in another 6 years you'll find the philosophy side inriguinging. Good luck in whatever it is you're doing.

I can't imagine a dumber source of information.

That's enough, ladies

I'm very confused. You've offered nothing. I've provided lots of info. You are a toxic source of misinformation that brings nothing to the table.

I barely agree with myself, depending on the week.

Bitcoin is for enemies.

Programming and coding folks...


https://twitter.com/Bitcoin/status/1490369812207308803?s=20&t=sArKUGaOacUOYlTm6rsDSQ

What does that slide say in English?

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What does that slide say in English?

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Haha, I have only the faintest clue and am probably way way off.

My conjecture - a program was found that is capable of altering code so additional security measures are needed.

Just an opinion from an article BUT...


https://decrypt.co/92185/the-shine-comes-off-ethereum-killer-solana

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What does that slide say in English?

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It is a back door into processors. Can give hacker root access into system.

So I wasn't too far off.

Is the suggestion that it some how is a threat to BTC? Maybe commandeering nodes or miners?

Or does it have nothing to do with crypto?

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Is the suggestion that it some how is a threat to BTC? Maybe commandeering nodes or miners?

Or does it have nothing to do with crypto?

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It has nothing to do with crypto, and honestly I'm not sure why that Twitter account is posting that pic.

Especially when there are plenty of crypto specific attack vectors to be concerned about (eg SOL-ETH wormhole).

Not sure I agree with all of this, but I do agree that the Web3 and NFT hype is causing pushback from the masses. I've seen articles that celebrities hyping their bored ape NFT they bought for $216,000 is not much different than the custom gold plated or diamond encrusted iPhones from a few years back that's just a flaunting of wealth by celebrities. Whether it's a bubble or not, it will cause complications for the more mainstream aspects of cryptocurrency down the road.

The Crypto Backlash is Booming