Well maybe they only cancelled all SW flights? Due to SB all UA flights were booked when I found out about the meeting. Looks like they've only cancelled a few but all SW from Dallas or HOU were scrubbed.

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Well maybe they only cancelled all SW flights? Due to SB all UA flights were booked when I found out about the meeting. Looks like they've only cancelled a few but all SW from Dallas or HOU were scrubbed.

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I dont know why Southwest always does that on flights going to Denver. They cancelled a flight on me an hour before departure this past summer from Pittsburgh to Denver because there were thunderstorms predicted 5 hours after we would have landed.

I think I read that 90% of all inbound and outbound SWA flights were cancelled today. This storm with sideways snow and gusting winds actually reminds me of a tropical storm or low level hurricane.

Be glad. I was on 25 at about 10 am and it was really dicey. I lost control a few times, just going 35-40 mph. Snow was already piling up between lanes making lane changes difficult.

Canceling all flights today was totally warranted.

That's what they were comparing to down here. Said it was like a cat 1/cat 2 hurricane.

Pretty much looks like a hurricane.


This is ridgegate off of 25 on my way home at 10:30.

Wow

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Pretty much looks like a hurricane.


This is ridgegate off of 25 on my way home at 10:30.

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Damn! It was windy but still raining at 10am up north.

The weather is always better up here, but I don't tell anyone.

Geez flights cancelled for tomorrow too. Got mine rebooked for Friday morning but now the SW website crashed as I'm trying to rebook my wife from Love.

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Pretty much looks like a hurricane.


This is ridgegate off of 25 on my way home at 10:30.

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Damn! It was windy but still raining at 10am up north.

The weather is always better up here, but I don't tell anyone.

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yeh I was downtown until 10. It was pretty much the same conditions all the way until the south end, but that road picture is on a road with no development, just fields (On the way to parker) so it was looking like Kansas out there!

Wasn't there like a 50 car pile up on 25 near Greeley area? I thought I overheard it on the news.

Definitely won't be going in tomorrow until at least 10 or 11. I gotta remove the 3' drift in front of my garage first!

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Pretty much looks like a hurricane.


This is ridgegate off of 25 on my way home at 10:30.

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Damn! It was windy but still raining at 10am up north.

The weather is always better up here, but I don't tell anyone.

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yeh I was downtown until 10. It was pretty much the same conditions all the way until the south end, but that road picture is on a road with no development, just fields (On the way to parker) so it was looking like Kansas out there!

Wasn't there like a 50 car pile up on 25 near Greeley area? I thought I overheard it on the news.

Definitely won't be going in tomorrow until at least 10 or 11. I gotta remove the 3' drift in front of my garage first!

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No idea about I25. That's lovelands problem.

Spent about 90 minutes snow blowing my drive and the neighbors after a few cocktails. Now it's soup time.

Flights are jacked until about noon tomorrow at the moment.

We are trying to get 13 families to Phoenix for a baseball tournament that starts Friday. 5 or 6 of those families are talking about trying to leave around 3 or 4 this morning, driving straight through.

Right now, I'm scheduled on a 1:50 flight out of DIA, but that's iffy. My wife is coming in tomorrow from Phoenix, but her flight is already cancelled. She's on a flight that makes a stop in Cortez, CO of all places. Little turbo prop planes - not ideal at all.

25 is closed between Lone Tree and Monument overnight. Fun times!

Post snow totals.

9"ish for us near DTC.

About the same in HR, but hard to tell with the stuff blowing all over the place.

Just rented a car in Houston and we're driving up. With work schedule like it is I wouldn't be able to get out there for 3 or 4 weeks and this is too good of an opportunity to wait.

Another one moving up north. Wife and I are moving to the Cory-Merrill neighborhood next month. Our dog, Bernese mt dog, would love the weather y'all are having today.

yeh I can't find two places in my hard that are the same depth hah.

I'm guessing 8", back at about 3pm. Could be a foot by now.

Only had 3-4 by Sloan's lake near mile high. Wind was insane though.

I drove Uber yesterday and although the roads were bad, there was almost no traffic.

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I drove Uber yesterday and although the roads were bad, there was almost no traffic.

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Practically every school district around the front range and gov/city offices were closed Wed. and Thurs.

Unfortunately the trip has been kind of rushed since we didn't get to town until really late Thursday night. Parker looks like a good option and we're hearing the schools are good but what seems to be the push for academies or charter schools? The schools we're zoned to in Houston all rate as 10's so we had never considered anything but the school you're zoned to. It seems like some of the methodology for grading the schools is weak, but to get similarly graded schools in Denver area looks to be $800k+ plus and that will be outside our budget.

I will say that everyone we've interacted with has been extremely nice.

I'm guessing it's because of snow and related plowing equipment, but shoot the roads are bad. Is 470 just perpetually under construction or is this just part of the expanded toll project? Also, people always talk about aggressive driving in Houston but seems worse here.

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Unfortunately the trip has been kind of rushed since we didn't get to town until really late Thursday night. Parker looks like a good option and we're hearing the schools are good but what seems to be the push for academies or charter schools? The schools we're zoned to in Houston all rate as 10's so we had never considered anything but the school you're zoned to. It seems like some of the methodology for grading the schools is weak, but to get similarly graded schools in Denver area looks to be $800k+ plus and that will be outside our budget.

I will say that everyone we've interacted with has been extremely nice.

I'm guessing it's because of snow and related plowing equipment, but shoot the roads are bad. Is 470 just perpetually under construction or is this just part of the expanded toll project? Also, people always talk about aggressive driving in Houston but seems worse here.

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C470 has never been under construction since it was built I don't think. This is the first expansion of it and it's major. It's finishing up later this year I believe.

Our kids will go to where they are zoned in DougCo. I don't understand all the charter school business myself.

My experience with driving is just the opposite. Everyone seems really defensive. I'll leave early on a Friday and be on 25 with 4 lanes and everyone is going exactly the speed limit and spaced out just enough to where I can't get through and have to follow along with the slow pack hah. People slowing down on the on-ramp and afraid/hesitant to merge. Not one single person in this town will take a right on red when there is a dedicated lane to turn into. They sit and wait until green. And with left turns, I rarely see the middle of road camper who ends up having to take the left turn on red. They actually sit and wait behind the line while it's green until they have time to turn. If the space doesn't appear, it turns red and they remain in the left turn lane behind the line. I never saw that in Houston. There was always one last person getting that left turn on red.

Agreed that drivers are way less aggressive here. Rare is the person that waits in the intersection to turn left when the light goes red. Natives sit at the white line and wait for the arrow.

When we moved from Dallas we asked about 50 people where the best public schools in metro Denver were. 49 of them said Cherry Creek School District; the 50th named a private school.

We do hear Douglas County and Cherry Creek are good. It did feel kind of odd going into Stapleton today since they're part of Denver Public, and apparently they go on a choose system but you're not even guaranteed where you go. That seems odd that you could actually pass up schools from your house.

Thank you for the help. It's certainly a lot to process, but it sure seems like a great place to raise a family. It is confirmed they'll pay for tolls and car allowance.

We liked some of the places near Blackstone CC as well as an area inside Reunion. But I know zero about either area right now.

We did like HR, and that might be what we'd look further into but some of the folks that work for the same company and live there that commute to the Littleton office were thinking it'd be too far to go to 225 and 70.

It was kind of neat seeing an Astros flag flying next to one of the houses we looked at in Stapleton.

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We did like HR, and that might be what we'd look further into but some of the folks that work for the same company and live there that commute to the Littleton office were thinking it'd be too far to go to 225 and 70.

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I agree. I don't like commuting. That doesnt mean you have to live on top of work (schools matter), but it also doesnt mean you have to live all the way across town.

I don't know if you're gonna get more for your money in parker compared to Hr. There are a few cheaper areas in parker, but for the most part it's a high 400k entry point and a nicer home will be 5-6. You have to go down to castle rock to get a price break.

5 years ago those same houses were mid 3 to mid 4, but we've appreciate almost 40% in those 5 years.

I hope to buy a place here once I get into a good regular job. It's going to be expensive though, even a condo or townhome is like 250 plus.

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For gods sake...please stay out of Stapleton.

I have been in Denver since 2006. Lived in Greenwood Village to start moved to Wyoming in 2008 and came back in 2011.

Lived in HIghlands ranch from 2011-2013 and then cherry creek for a year. Back in Lone Tree/Highlands Ranch ever since. My wife is a native and wouldn't let us live anywhere else. She grew up in Greenwood Village.

HR/Lone Tree is the Texas of Colorado. I absolutely love it. Yes you can be a haul from down town but 470 is easy access as is Santa Fe. You have quick north south east west access from HR.

Your price range will determine everything. I have seen Parker mentioned. You should get more house for the money, but you will probably have to get real south to find a "steal".

The zip codes I would live in and I this is more from my wife:

80129
80130
80112
80111

Affordable, good schools, easy access to highway, central location. Get too Far East and aurora could be a problem. Too far west and you will find yourself pushing into Lakewood. Too far south and your drives become rough in the winter. Living too far north (Thornton, Westminster) traffic is bad.

Also don't listen to Hollywood BQ dude or dudette loves to trash Denver and tell you eventually you will move back to Texas.

Colorado is awesome. I'm not going anywhere and a lot of people on this thread aren't either.

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I'm a dude (last Aggie Band class with no females who made it) and I owned a home in 80129 from 2000-2013. I highly recommend Highlands Ranch if you're from Texas. But, please don't listen to me and my post-starstruck, man behind the curtain view. I've been backstage and trust me, you don't want to know what it's like.

dbtexasag05 - dude, Me. Seriously bro - by your own admission, you were gone from Colorado within the first 2 years. At least I lasted 4 years before I realized that trying to hang on was futile And, with your wife being from the DTC area, you're not going to have the same sorts of familial ties and warm weather seeking factors that many of us flat-landers will have to endure.

After watching people share their personal experiences and expectations, and matching those up against my personal experience and observations during my time in Colorado, as well as those of friends who have left and the less than a handful who remain, I have revised my thinking a little bit. I've also had a similar experience with some American immigrants to Australia that have helped me re-shape my perspective. Here's my updated advice.

I'll put it like this:

• If you are moving there for the lifestyle above all else, just move to Colorado, don't think twice about it and don't ever look back. You will probably struggle with work but you're not alone. Lots of folks fall into this category.
• If you are moving to Colorado to make money, good luck. You might struggle and it is likely that you will eventually bail out on Colorado. Probably after you've been laid off once or twice. It happens. You won't be the first, or the last person in this category. Texas will still take you back.
• If you have strong family ties in Texas, love Texas and think you might enjoy sampling Colorado, in the long-run, you're not going to make it. But, that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it while it lasts. I sure did.
• If you've already been successful and have "made it" where you're living - whether that be Houston, Austin, Dallas, etc., and you are looking for the next challenge and think that moving to Colorado will allow you to have your cake and eat it too, you're probably going to wind up frustrated. And will definitely be susceptible to moving back to Texas when you eventually decide that trying to force yourself into Colorado doesn't make financial sense anymore.
• If you haven't really made it at your chosen profession, if you're earning less than an entry level Houston ISD school teacher (over $50k/yr these days), you will probably be satisfied with the struggle of moving to Denver and trying to make it. If this is your situation, I'd put you into the lifestyle above all else category. You'll struggle financially but, the lifestyle should be fun. There will be plenty of others trying to make it to so, lots of kindred spirits.

Good Luck!

40%? That's wild, and certainly depresses me some. When I moved to Spring in '13 they had recently seen similar appreciation and now it's been pretty flat 6 years later.

I think you said before, but are you in Parker?

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If you've already been successful and have "made it" where you're living - whether that be Houston, Austin, Dallas, etc., and you are looking for the next challenge and think that moving to Colorado will allow you to have your cake and eat it too, you're probably going to wind up frustrated. And will definitely be susceptible to moving back to Texas when you eventually decide that trying to force yourself into Colorado doesn't make financial sense anymore.

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I guess this is where I land but I'm curious why you say that. What would make that frustrating? In Houston we're not getting to enjoy much of the outdoors, I work from 6a-7p, sometimes 6 days a week, and the company in CO seems to value a work life balance much more. It does come with a slight bump in pay, but not as much as I was thinking, I'm guessing because of the Denver discount.

Hahaha.

I moved to Wyoming for a job that ultimately would bring me back to Denver.

Hollywood every post you make about Colorado has an awful sense of depression in it. The cost of living is no different in Colorado than it is in Texas. The state and government always get their money.

I have Family in Texas. Thank god I moved to Colorado now the come here for vacation.

Made it? Making that a part of the check list moving here is ignorant. Students can't afford rent in College station or homes in DFW or Houston. It's the same problem everywhere.

In Texas it's property tax. In Colorado it's income tax and vehicle registration.

Don't move to Colorado because you think it's going to be better work life balance. My guess is that your problem is you work too much. That isn't going to change in Denver...or anywhere else for that matter. I'm not bashing you. I have the same problem as well.

Will you want to move back to Texas? Who knows. But for your sake and your family don't look in the rear view mirror when you pack the uhaul. Are the politics going to bother you? Maybe, but I don't know how you voted. Is the legal weed a problem for you? Now here is why I ask those questions:

Politics suck everywhere.
Drugs are everywhere.
Gangs sucks everywhere.

Hell we all suck!

Colorado has the socioeconomic problems as Texas one way or the other. However, I don't sweat like an idiot going out to get the paper in the morning. Traffic is easy compared to the metropolitan areas of Dallas and Houston (we ***** about it here because it's the cool thing to do now). The air is cleaner, the city is cleaner, and the people are awesome. You are in the Country's playground every day. And eventually, you will like the rest of us that live here, take it for granted. You will flirt with moving back to Texas. Then you will get off the plane in Houston and nope yourself right back to Denver.

The one thing that gets me mad about Denver is the awful Mexican food. I have made it a mission to learn how to make enchiladas so you can come to my house if need be.

I hadn't spent much time in the mountains lately . A 2 year old daughter is hard to get up there. However, we will spend 2 times a month this year pulling around our travel trailer. She's old enough for it to be fun for her. I work for myself now and it's feasible.

Skiing is a blast (expensive and time consuming) and our neighbors 3 boys and their parents rent a hotel room almost every weekend during ski season. He works from home so it helps. However, Thursday is like Friday in Colorado. So if you really do want work life balance understand that going into it. I promise no one in your office cares if you miss Friday. Reason being is they aren't there either.

I may have missed what your job is, and maybe it doesn't matter. But what are you really wanting out of this move? A better life? More money? Just a chance of scenery for a while?

A better life? Sure. Buts that up to you. Are people here more excepting of an active lifestyle? Absolutely. But you still have to put the work down and get it done.

More Money? Like I said cost of living just isn't that different. However, skiiing and mountain biking and rvs and golfing and brewery tours and everything else that comes with the ability to be outdoors 310 days out of the year gets expensive. I'm sorry you came up in some random storm. I literally haven't seen one like that in Denver since 2007. Also the snow is already gone at my house.

Change of scenery? Absolutely. But again, you have to get yourself away from work and do it.

I'm a workaholic. Started my own business, and now I'm probably worse. But I play golf three times a week. I travel in an RV. I take my daughter horse back riding. I play softball every Thursday. I run daily.

I'm a workaholic NOW because I have to squeeze in time for all my activities.

Give it a fair shot. I don't have an issue with Hollywood. I meant to make a winky face. But that post is repeated through this thread from him. Unfortunately maybe my post is retread here as well. There is a fanboy cult to living in Colorado.

TLDR: I have never met Hollywood I am sure he is a good guy. But he is wrong. See you in Denver.