***** Official Houston Astros 2025 Season Thread *****

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Brice Mathews time?
Hornbeck
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Is it just me, or have players become wusses?

I remember Curt Schilling pitching with blood coming from an open wound on his ankle. I remember Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers playing with broken ribs.

Nowadays in the MLB, people sit out half a season with a bone bruise.
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They have these vests for the elderly that deploy when it senses you are falling. Can we get jerseys like this that can detect when a ball is heading towards one of our players and they aren't going to hit or catch it?
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Hornbeck said:

Is it just me, or have players become wusses?

I remember Curt Schilling pitching with blood coming from an open wound on his ankle. I remember Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers playing with broken ribs.

Nowadays in the MLB, people sit out half a season with a bone bruise.

Cal Ripken Jr record will stand forever.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Don't want Jace. He doesn't make enough contact. His swing is very much one that needs the ball to run into his plane. He has zero ability to make productive things happen off well placed pitches in his cold zones, and I dont see that changing. Hope I'm wrong.

Raw power is great. But give me untapped power and a top-end contact tool any day. The raw power can develop. The contact usually cant.
Now I'm inclined to want him more
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Yeah, I guess "player workload" wasn't a thing back then. Neither was pitch count.
RED AG 98
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Now I'm even more ticked we didn't hit them back. I hope we retaliate going forward. Fix it Joe.
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Marvin said:

So Yordan, McCormick, Dezenzo, Whitcomb, Peña, Garcia, France, Javier, Arrighetti, and the pitcher from the Cubs. Almost an entire lineup (throw Rogers in for giggles) and an entire rotation.

All you can do is laugh.


And Dubin.
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txags92 said:

BadAggie said:

12 games before All Star break. They resume at Seattle.

After 3 vs Rockies starting tomorrow they get Dodgers, Indians, and Arlington.

Would be nice if someone among Altuve, Diaz and Walker catches fire in this stretch.
I assume Seattle will plunk a few more guys and we will do nothing as usual.
this is a legitimate concern

the Mariners plunked Pena 3 times during the May series
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So the google machine is telling me fractured ribs take 6-12 weeks recovery time. So to be conservative lets say 9 weeks.

That puts JP coming back around the end of August.

Here's hoping it's closer to the 6 weeks.
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AggiEE said:

****, these injuries are really terrible

Pena is now likely out for the entire season
Small fracture in the ribs (if that's really the case) would have him back around late July.
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Curt Schilling "open wound" story is about as urban legend as it comes.
Mathguy64
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I've broken a rib before. It hurt like hell for a month. Sneezing was a *****. I can't imagine having one while swinging a bat.
EastCoastAgNc
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Altuve played the last half of 2018 and the playoffs with his kneecap torn off it's support. There's a big difference between playoff games and a few weeks in July
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texasaggie2015 said:

2025 MLB expert mock draft: We make picks for all 30 teams - ESPN

Quote:

21. Houston Astros
Pick: Jace LaViolette, OF, Texas A&M

Astros GM Passan: This is the point in the draft where the good teams happily use their first-round pick as a lottery ticket on someone whose stock has fallen. And nobody has cratered quite like LaViolette, who stands 6-foot-6 and 230 pounds and has spent the past two seasons in center field for the Aggies. LaViolette has huge raw power and a very good eye, but his .258 batting average alarmed enough teams to allow him to drop here, where the Astros -- whose GM, Dana Brown, was a longtime scouting director who loved tooled-up prospects -- gladly snap him up.

McDaniel's draft analysis: This is quite realistic, both that Laviolette is the college hitter from this tier who slides and that Houston would be the team that takes him because of the Astros' style and him being a semi-local player.

I have seen a lot of mocks with him to the O's and notes that we are his floor. I'd love the pick but it is a bit funny how everyone here hated on Gallo for years when Jace is a very similar player. A better defensive Adam Dunn / Schwarber seems like a feasible and valuable player.
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Mathguy64 said:

I've broken a rib before. It hurt like hell for a month. Sneezing was a *****. I can't imagine having one while swinging a bat.
Yepp 0/10 do not recommend. That and costal strain have been some of the most painful injuries I have ever dealt with. Hoping JP heals quickly.
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I can't blame the Astros medical staff on the situation with Peña's injury due to a similar situation I had years ago. I thought I had fractured a rib but the initial X-ray only showed a bruised rib. During the next few days I was still experiencing a lot of pain and had a CT that revealed a fracture. So unfortunately it happens and can't blame the doctor if swelling hides the fracture.

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MaxPower said:

texasaggie2015 said:

2025 MLB expert mock draft: We make picks for all 30 teams - ESPN

Quote:

21. Houston Astros
Pick: Jace LaViolette, OF, Texas A&M

Astros GM Passan: This is the point in the draft where the good teams happily use their first-round pick as a lottery ticket on someone whose stock has fallen. And nobody has cratered quite like LaViolette, who stands 6-foot-6 and 230 pounds and has spent the past two seasons in center field for the Aggies. LaViolette has huge raw power and a very good eye, but his .258 batting average alarmed enough teams to allow him to drop here, where the Astros -- whose GM, Dana Brown, was a longtime scouting director who loved tooled-up prospects -- gladly snap him up.

McDaniel's draft analysis: This is quite realistic, both that Laviolette is the college hitter from this tier who slides and that Houston would be the team that takes him because of the Astros' style and him being a semi-local player.

I have seen a lot of mocks with him to the O's and notes that we are his floor. I'd love the pick but it is a bit funny how everyone here hated on Gallo for years when Jace is a very similar player. A better defensive Adam Dunn / Schwarber seems like a feasible and valuable player.
Depends on whether or not you think the real Jace was the 2024 version or the 2025 version.

With Braden Montgomery hitting behind him in 2024 he hit .305 with a .449 OBP. Without that protection behind him this year he struggled. I wonder what the breakdown of his stats in 2025 would look like when he had a healthy Caden Sorrell behind him?
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A player like Gallo would be his floor (obviously, multiple years in MLB would be a heck of a floor, but I'm talking about the style not level at which he makes it), but Gallo showed a lot of "homer or bust" where Jace has shown a willingness to go the other way and he played some very solid defense for us.
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So he's getting the Yordan treatment, have him attempt a comeback without fully healing
MaxPower
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His K rates have been consistently high. A .305 average in college is very meh. He will always be a 3 true outcomes player but if you draw a lot of walks and hit a lot of jacks that's perfectly fine.
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My new fav AI pic


No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Mathguy64
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That jersey is very Homelander esque.
htxag09
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Mr.Bond said:

htxag09 said:

Mr.Bond said:

FIRE THE ENTIRE ****IN MEDICAL STAFF. NOW
Honest question....what's the issue with the medical staff w/ the handling of Pena?



We're we not told x rays came back negative 3 days ago?
I'm not a doctor but my understanding is it's pretty normal for swelling, bruising, etc. to affect visibility of some fractures during x-rays. Why you still treat the symptoms and take it easy then do follow up x-rays, which is what they did.

I understand this isn't an isolated instance and past issues make it all seem worse. But, my opinion, this was handled all pretty up to par....
txags92
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W said:

txags92 said:

BadAggie said:

12 games before All Star break. They resume at Seattle.

After 3 vs Rockies starting tomorrow they get Dodgers, Indians, and Arlington.

Would be nice if someone among Altuve, Diaz and Walker catches fire in this stretch.
I assume Seattle will plunk a few more guys and we will do nothing as usual.
this is a legitimate concern

the Mariners plunked Pena 3 times during the May series
And we let them do it with no retaliation at all.
txags92
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BCEDAg said:

I can't blame the Astros medical staff on the situation with Peña's injury due to a similar situation I had years ago. I thought I had fractured a rib but the initial X-ray only showed a bruised rib. During the next few days I was still experiencing a lot of pain and had a CT that revealed a fracture. So unfortunately it happens and can't blame the doctor if swelling hides the fracture.


Same. Broke a rib playing goalie in soccer and landing on a guy's shoulders coming down with a corner kick. The quack shack doc on duty at midnight told me it was separated cartilage. Xray for a work physical 4 months later showed the healed fracture clear as day. I couldn't sit up in bed without rolling sideways first for about a month.
texasaggie2015
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htxag09 said:

Mr.Bond said:

htxag09 said:

Mr.Bond said:

FIRE THE ENTIRE ****IN MEDICAL STAFF. NOW
Honest question....what's the issue with the medical staff w/ the handling of Pena?



We're we not told x rays came back negative 3 days ago?
I'm not a doctor but my understanding is it's pretty normal for swelling, bruising, etc. to affect visibility of some fractures during x-rays. Why you still treat the symptoms and take it easy then do follow up x-rays, which is what they did.

I understand this isn't an isolated instance and past issues make it all seem worse. But, my opinion, this was handled all pretty up to par....
Yes. This is completely normal.
EastCoastAgNc
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The Original Houston 1836
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htxag09 said:

Mr.Bond said:

htxag09 said:

Mr.Bond said:

FIRE THE ENTIRE ****IN MEDICAL STAFF. NOW
Honest question....what's the issue with the medical staff w/ the handling of Pena?



We're we not told x rays came back negative 3 days ago?
I'm not a doctor but my understanding is it's pretty normal for swelling, bruising, etc. to affect visibility of some fractures during x-rays. Why you still treat the symptoms and take it easy then do follow up x-rays, which is what they did.

I understand this isn't an isolated instance and past issues make it all seem worse. But, my opinion, this was handled all pretty up to par....
Sounds just like the Astros medical staff!
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EastCoastAgNc said:




Next year it is then
Hornbeck
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Chest amputation, stat!
superaggie73
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EastCoastAgNc said:




They say the same BS every injury.
Farmer1906
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We need more medical staff and injury recovery timeline jokes. They never get old. Not even a little.
texasaggie2015
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Farmer1906 said:

We need more medical staff and injury recovery timeline jokes. They never get old. Not even a little.
My sides have discomfort from laughing so hard at them.
Hornbeck
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texasaggie2015 said:

Farmer1906 said:

We need more medical staff and injury recovery timeline jokes. They never get old. Not even a little.
My sides have discomfort from laughing so hard at them.


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