***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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Bag said:

how are injured SPs coming along?

any chance Garcia, McCullers or Javier see the field this year?
McCullers is progressing through rehab, throwing bullpens, and a couple months out








(from announcing he is shutting it down for the season)
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Bag said:

how are injured SPs coming along?

any chance Garcia, McCullers or Javier see the field this year?


Javier is the least likely. He just had TJ mid last season.

Garcia and McCullers last update said April.
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Don't think it was actually Ohtani's account and by all reports he cooperated with the investigation and didn't delete messages
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I know it's different situations. But mega superstar is still being treated different.
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so Wagner's jersey is being retired

which means the 2002 Astros had 3 Hall of Famers with jersey retirements (Bagwell, Biggio, Wagner)

plus peak Berkman -- finished 3rd for MVP

plus peak Oswalt -- finished 4th for Cy Young

plus great seasons from Wade Miller and Octavio Dotel

yet finished with just 84 wins -- that was not easy to do with that much talent
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W said:

so Wagner's jersey is being retired

which means the 2002 Astros had 3 Hall of Famers with jersey retirements (Bagwell, Biggio, Wagner)

plus peak Berkman -- finished 3rd for MVP

plus peak Oswalt -- finished 4th for Cy Young

plus great seasons from Wade Miller and Octavio Dotel

yet finished with just 84 wins -- that was not easy to do with that much talent
Almost a carbon copy of the 2023 Padres outcome
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Jimmy Williams took over after the Dierker disaster. Not surprising.
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Farmer1906
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Prospects who just missed the top 100.

[url=https://www.mlb.com/player/691775][/url]
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Ryan Clifford, 1B/OF, Mets

Clifford took a while to get going last season. For the first two months, between High-A Brooklyn and Double-A Binghamton, he hit just .192/.371/.298 with two home runs and a 34.5 percent strikeout rate. But from June on, the hulking slugger slashed .247/.373/.486 with 17 homers and a more manageable 26.8 percent K rate. While Clifford is not likely to hit for a high average -- in part because his patient approach leads to many two-strike counts -- his disciplined eye allows him to get on base at a high rate, and his tremendous power is a big reason why he enters the year as the No. 7 1B prospect. He'll be one of the youngest hitters in the upper Minors this season -- not turning 22 until July -- giving him time to iron out his rough areas.

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An old sales manager once said: "Tine kills all deals".
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Steroid sales rising in Baltimore
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W said:

so Wagner's jersey is being retired

which means the 2002 Astros had 3 Hall of Famers with jersey retirements (Bagwell, Biggio, Wagner)

plus peak Berkman -- finished 3rd for MVP

plus peak Oswalt -- finished 4th for Cy Young

plus great seasons from Wade Miller and Octavio Dotel

yet finished with just 84 wins -- that was not easy to do with that much talent


Bagwell couldn't throw the ball at that point. Bidge was t exactly at his peak. Not sure how Wagner was that year.
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Farmer1906 said:

tjack16 said:

I don't know about yall but it really feels like 2025 is now a new era of Astros baseball.

Lost Tucker, Bregman, Verlander, Pressly, Altuve playing outfield might happen, new city connects, and a ballpark name change.

That's a lot of change in one offseason


Still have a lot from '22 in Altuve, Alvarez, Framber, Javier, McCullers, Abreu, Garcia, Brown, Pena, McCormick, Meyers, McCormick, Dubon.


True but Javier will be out, LMJ and Garcia are both starting year on injured list…. Dubon/Meyers werent everyday starters in the 2022 season and Hunter Brown wasn't a factor at all in that season (pitched 23 innings during regular and postseason)

The rotation and lineup on opening day will look totally different from the 2022 season.

It could end up being a good change… I'm just pointing out it's a lot of change even since the end of the 2023 season.
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It makes me sick to ask this question, but how long before the Astros trade for Arenado and an outfielder from the Cardinals?
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Steroid sales rising in Baltimore
That would not have been a horrible OF signing for us. Other than the baggage.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

It makes me sick to ask this question, but how long before the Astros trade for Arenado and an outfielder from the Cardinals?
If that OF is Donovan, I am down.

Something like this:

Astros Send:
  • Montero
  • Melton
  • 2 10-20 type prospects

Astros Get:
  • Arenado (full contract)
  • Donovan

We'd be over the CBT and need to clear a roster spot. We'd probably need to move Caratini somewhere else for a minor leaguer.
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Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

It makes me sick to ask this question, but how long before the Astros trade for Arenado and an outfielder from the Cardinals?
If that OF is Donovan, I am down.

Something like this:

Astros Send:
  • Montero
  • Melton
  • 2 10-20 type prospects

Astros Get:
  • Arenado (full contract)
  • Donovan

We'd be over the CBT and need to clear a roster spot. We'd probably need to move Caratini somewhere else for a minor leaguer.


I'd be okay with that
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This is probably a good time to deal with the Cardinals since they're in for a few years of rebuild with Bloom taking over after this season.
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Erick Fedde is another name on the Cardinals that I know they've discussed
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I got a 12:50 tee time for the Friday 2/21 golf at the park event. Anybody else going?
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tjack16 said:

I got a 12:50 tee time for the Friday 2/21 golf at the park event. Anybody else going?
I did it years ago and didnt enjoy it personally.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Some change after the malaise of these last two years will be welcome imo. Not full overhaul but refresher.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Why the calendar have a post it?
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texasaggie2015 said:

Erick Fedde is another name on the Cardinals that I know they've discussed
If a trade like this happens, do you get the sense it's gonna happen soon (i.e. before spring training) or it might wait a bit and be during spring training?
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Probably to not give away the #BuiltForThis mantra for 2025 they revealed today
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n_touch said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Why the calendar have a post it?
Its probably this years slogan that wasnt released at time of photo
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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n_touch said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Why the calendar have a post it?


Pressly, Bregman, or Tucker on it?
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Mr. Awesome Time said:

This is probably a good time to deal with the Cardinals since they're in for a few years of rebuild with Bloom taking over after this season.
Seems to be some odd stuff going on in that org. Jim Edmonds was just on X talking about how the new regime has basically told the old guys like him they're not really welcome around the ballclub these days.
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In English?
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Sounds like a shot across Boras' bow from the Red Sox. Bring your boy to the table with a reasonable ask or we move on.
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