***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz
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Now that we're 2 pay periods into 2025 without a contract, I bet lady bregman is leaning on Alex to sign a damn deal already.
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Altuve trying to stretch for a throw and dig balls out of the dirt? They'd bounce over his head
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texasaggie2015 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol


The guy at third better aim low…. I love me some 'Tuve, but dude is 5'6".
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texasaggie2015 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol


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Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.
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I like Bregman, but it's time to tell him and Boras to pound sand. You have to think they know Crane wants him and that they can twist his arm to get more with no other serious bidders.
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Then speaking as a huge Bregman fan who wanted him back at an overpay - I hope Dana tells both him and Boras - "**** off and enjoy Canada"
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BQRyno said:

I like Bregman, but it's time to tell him and Boras to pound sand. You have to think they know Crane wants him and that they can twist his arm to get more with no other serious bidders.
6/156 AAV is $26M / year. 6/171 is $28.5M / year. That's a difference of $2.5M per year. I'm not Jim, but to me that seems like not a terrible difference. If we were talking about 5-10M per year difference, I'd be more inclined to just let it go.

Also don't forget we heard the offer was raised from 6/156 at one point. We don't know how much it went up and how close that might already be to 6/171.
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O/U February 1st that bregman signs a deal with anyone
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I get it, but they have no business asking for once cent more. You cannot get bullied into this. Everyone sees it.
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Silent For Too Long said:

This team was never, ever, ever going to pay Tucker money. Ever. And they probably shouldn't. Not giving out those kinds of contracts is a big reason this team has stayed competitive for so long. The Tucker trade was a master stroke, and exactly the kind of move you make to keep kicking the window open longer.

It kind of baffles me that some still can't see that.


Agree, and will add that the other key is talent identification and development, which was the hallmark of the last 10 years. Dana was hired for his skill in that area. While I significantly easier with high draft picks, I'm hoping he can show his stuff over the next several years.
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150/5 Win win.
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Hmmm…
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Farmer1906 said:



Hmmm…

Probably related to the rockets game and the last second shot to win
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BQRyno said:

I like Bregman, but it's time to tell him and Boras to pound sand. You have to think they know Crane wants him and that they can twist his arm to get more with no other serious bidders.

Yeah it seems petty at this point. Just rubs me the wrong way that after seeing his market value and not signing anywhere, he's still going to squabble over something like this when we give him the best number of years in the best place he wants to stay. It's "close enough" to where you don't turn this down twice. It's a business on both sides of course, but this is just dragging on way longer than it has to. Just strikes me as being excessively greedy.

Astros should give Bregman a deadline this week. Take it or leave it, last and final offer. I don't think we are in any pressure situation to sign Bregman and Dana/Crane should not think we are either.

If I'm being honest, while Bregman coming back improves the team, I think it hurts long-term and I think there's cheaper options this year that can perhaps improve our club in more positions of need for far cheaper and with far less years attached.

We can also roll into the trade deadline with more financial flexibility to make a splash if necessary.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:



Hmmm…

Probably related to the rockets game and the last second shot to win


True. That was pretty sweet.
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Farmer1906 said:

Don't usually care for DuBose but this is an interesting take.




If the messaging coming from the national guys is Boras/ Breggy and the local guys are the Astros, I actually think this is the most correct read of the situation. It certainly doesn't mean Breggy comes back, but it makes a lot more puzzle pieces fit.

Agree with Ben the timing being reopening talks and the Pressly trade happening isn't coincidence. I only disagree with him that I think talks with Breggy opened up after the Pressly trade was pretty firm. I think the Pressly trade was the catalyst.

It does make floating the Polanco and Arenado stuff around while they're talking not really a coincidence too. I think it's the Astros just saying we have options and trying to get him to accept $156/6yrs. Makes me confident they aren't really going to go after those two guys.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:



Hmmm…

Probably related to the rockets game and the last second shot to win
They're signing Bregman, then trading him and Amen Thompson to Minnesota for Anthony Edwards and Correa.
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Ehhh, I don't know if I'd take that. Amen might be a unicorn, he definitely ain't no Ben Simmons
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.


Nope, and because he's being greedy and thereby hurting the team, our offer is now 5/125.

-- Jim Crane (I hope)
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linkdude said:

Ehhh, I don't know if I'd take that. Amen might be a unicorn, he definitely ain't no Ben Simmons
I wouldn't take it either. I'm trying to hastily redact the tantrum I threw the night the Spurs got the #1 pick in the draft and the Rockets had to settle for Amen at #4. he's been unreal in January
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Didn't we allegedly increase the offer but it was never made public
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.



Sure Alex. But we are deferring the additional 15 million until 2040
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Mr.Bond said:

Didn't we allegedly increase the offer but it was never made public
I'm thinking we did and that's why they are rejecting the public offer.
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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.


Nope, and because he's being greedy and thereby hurting the team, our offer is now 5/125.

-- Jim Crane (I hope)

That's not how any salary negotiation works. Can you imagine applying and interviewing for a job, receiving an offer, countering the offer, and then being told because you countered, the next offer has just gone down from the original?
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EastCoastAgNc said:

f1ghtintexasaggie said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.


Nope, and because he's being greedy and thereby hurting the team, our offer is now 5/125.

-- Jim Crane (I hope)

That's not how any salary negotiation works. Can you imagine applying and interviewing for a job, receiving an offer, countering the offer, and then being told because you countered, the next offer has just gone down from the original?


I mean, sure, if the company had already taken drastic and irreversible steps to replace you between the time of the original offer and the counter? Yes, I can forsee that as a very realistic possibility. Maybe that's just me.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.


Those extra $15M should be bonuses tied to performance, like winning gold glove, MVP, minimum
Games played, etc.
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Mr.Bond said:

I'm dumbfounded at Alex's sheer stubbornness


He's got more money than 99% of us will ever have. He doesn't live in the real world
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EastCoastAgNc said:

f1ghtintexasaggie said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.


Nope, and because he's being greedy and thereby hurting the team, our offer is now 5/125.

-- Jim Crane (I hope)

That's not how any salary negotiation works. Can you imagine applying and interviewing for a job, receiving an offer, countering the offer, and then being told because you countered, the next offer has just gone down from the original?
If you decline the team's best offer and the team goes and hires somebody else to fill the position, absolutely, you have no right to expect the original offer to still be on the table. If nobody else Alex wants to play for is offering 5-6 years, then the Astros shouldn't be offering him that either. Make a fair offer for the market he has in front of him and if he leaves, then he didn't want to be here.
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AggiEE said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

Ari Alexander is on the locked on astros podcast live right now. He says 6/171 probably gets it done. 6/156 means he goes elsewhere. Don't shoot the messenger.


Those extra $15M should be bonuses tied to performance, like winning gold glove, MVP, minimum
Games played, etc.
Batting above the Mendoza line in April and May.
Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz
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How about he gets the increase in $$, but Raegan has to pose for a series of Kate Upton-inspired gifs to become Rally Raegan?
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Ok he's starting to lose me here...
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Make it 28 and sign the dotted line
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Ok he's starting to lose me here...




If true..... what an ass clown man. Fucj this clown
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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