Screw you, Bregman. Greedy *****. Go take your pop up game to Boston for 3 years. Fenway fans won't be nearly as forgiving as you have had it your entire ****ing career.

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And I applaud Dana for that.

Regardless of how Paredes works out in an Astro uniform I love that he wasn't held hostage by Bregman and Boras.

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100%

The Astros' April 20 game against the San Diego Padres at Daikin Park has been picked up for Sunday Night Baseball.

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 15, 2025

Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

Billy Baroo said:

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Going back a few posts... The main reason the Ohtani deal is so egregious is that they are able to capitalize now on the additional marketing revenue that he's generating, while paying him next to nothing. They can then take part of that revenue and put it in escrow, which will likely grow to as much, if not more than what they're going to pay him in those last years of the contract.

So, essentially they're getting him for nothing or may even end up positive on the deal once those deferred years become due. Glad Manfred was so worried about us creating a competitive advantage with a trash can (even though it was proven it didn't really create an advantage), while allowing the Dodgers to create the biggest competitive advantage the sport has ever seen.

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This is a CBA issue. The option to do this has been there. I don't get upset with people who take advantage of the situation. If it's an issue, owners and MLBPA should address it during the next CBA negotiations.

Also, while I don't like it, it doesn't mean it doesn't come with risk. It probably works out for them, but the numbers by age for the average viewer climbs higher and higher. The game hasn't brought in the younger viewers to replace the older viewers at a decent enough rate. The WS isn't drawing like it used to, and it's even getting outdrawn by some regular season college football games now. 10 years is a long time for the landscape to change, and will the viewership issue finally catch up to baseball within this next decade? Who knows what that $700M will be to the Dodgers in 10 years.

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n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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It's a wash in my book.

Trading Tucker gets us a younger version of Bregman who is more versatile. Then Walker holds down 1B until Smith is ready for the big league spot. If it's 2026 then Paredes can play LF. Plus, letting Bregs go frees up a lot of money.

I've made no bones about my issues with Tucker and I'm not sad to see him go. I don't see any way he lives up to the numbers he going to demand and will be the kind of contract that handcuffs all but about 5 ball clubs ability to compete.

Still need OF help but I think the ball club is in a better spot to compete for the World Series than when they were in November 2024.

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I agree with most of these points.

I think losing Bregs hurts the most -- but not from an on-the-field performance perspective. I think the team on the field will miss his leadership. He seemed to take a lot of it after Correa left.

Someone else will have to step up.

That being said -- I think they are much better positioned for 2025 and the future with the moves they've made.

n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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None.

It's business. Signing either would have been bad business and made the next 5 years much worse as a fan. The nostalgia wears off real quick if you aren't competitive because you re-sign a big name.

I'd love if Crane did this:

Rangers Nation, how do you feel about paying $100 to watch the Rangers in 2025? pic.twitter.com/deOWD54bs9

— Rangers Nation ⚾️ (@rangers__nation) January 15, 2025

As an option for out of market customers sure.

But not as an exclusive option. That would blow for us in market customers who get the games with our streaming services we have already.

Josh tells a story about 10 minutes into this podcast about the Astros' infamous 2017 series against the Rangers in Tampa that you just have to hear. It is incredible. https://t.co/O3oi4NZvvx

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 15, 2025

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Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:

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Never thought I'd be sticking up for Boras but definitely feels like a situation where the player had way too lofty of an opinion of themselves. While Correa's problem seemed rooted in injury concerns, both guys appear to have conflated their personal success with the astros overall success. I don't think boras would make that mistake. He might make outlandish claims about what a guy is worth to the media, but he has been doing this for 40 years and rarely looks foolish when the dust settles.

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Who do you think was feeding Bregman his inflated market value? That's all Borass

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I think it's one or both of the people photographed here.

Yet Another Projection System: OOPSY

Position Players
Yordan Alvarez: 38 HR, 104 RBI, 181 wRC+, 6.0 WAR
Christian Walker: 33 HR, 93 RBI, 123 wRC+, 3.1 WAR
Isaac Paredes: 19 HR, 67 RBI, 118 wRC+, 3.2 WAR
Yainer Diaz: 22 HR, 74 RBI, 117 wRC+, 3.4 WAR
Jose Altuve: 19 HR, 74 RBI, 117 wRC+, 3.5 WAR
Jeremy Pena: 18 HR, 72 RBI, 108 wRC+, 3.6 WAR
Taylor Trammell: 11 HR, 35 RBI, 108 wRC+, 0.9 WAR
Chas McCormick: 15 HR, 51 RBI, 104 wRC+, 1.3 WAR
Jake Meyers: 10 HR, 41 RBI, 96 wRC+, 1.6 WAR
Mauricio Dubon: 5 HR, 29 RBI, 90 wRC+, 0.5 WAR

Starters
Framber Valdez: 186.0 IP, 3.24 ERA, 3.35 FIP, 3.8 WAR
Hunter Brown: 169.0 IP, 3.49 ERA, 3.55 FIP, 3.1 WAR
Ronel Blanco: 157.0 IP, 4.40 ERA, 4.62 FIP, 1.1 WAR
Spencer Arrighetti: 141.0 IP, 4.12 ERA, 4.30 FIP, 1.5 WAR
Luis Garcia: 124.0 IP, 4.00 ERA, 4.21 FIP, 1.3 WAR
Hayden Wesneski: 112.0 IP, 3.84 ERA, 4.12 FIP, 0.9 WAR
Lance McCullers: 78.0 IP, 3.73 ERA, 3.88 FIP, 0.8 WAR

Relievers
Josh Hader: 70.0 IP, 2.98 ERA, 3.38 FIP, 1.2 WAR
Bryan Abreu: 75.0 IP, 3.14 ERA, 3.40 FIP, 0.9 WAR
Ryan Pressly: 64.0 IP, 3.54 ERA, 3.61 FIP, 0.7 WAR
Taylor Scott: 68.0 IP, 4.04 ERA, 4.26 FIP, 0.0 WAR
Bryan King: 61.0 IP, 3.64 ERA, 3.84 FIP, 0.2 WAR
Kaleb Ort: 58.0 IP, 3.75 ERA, 4.23 FIP, 0.1 WAR
Forrest Whitley: 54.0 IP, 3.69 ERA, 3.98 FIP, 0.1 WAR
Shawn Dubin: 52.0 IP, 4.54 ERA, 4.72 FIP, 0.0 WAR


A few thoughts:

• They love Yordan. A 6 WAR from a mainly DH is huge.
• I think they're underselling Paredes' HRs by a good bit.
• 159 more hits for Altuve puts him at 2391. Just above the pace for 3000, but to think he's getting 154 hits a year in his late 30s is pushing it. We need 170+!
• 6 Players with a WAR above 3 is kind of wild.
• They believe in Brown being real and Blanco being a fluke.
• How are we feeling about LMJ's 78 innings? If healthy, it seems low. They only project 10 starts and 24 relief appearances. Interesting.
• Nothing really stands out for RP. Maybe that they expect Whitley to be a big part of it?

How are we feeling about LMJ's 78 innings? If healthy, it seems low. They only project 10 starts and 24 relief appearances. Interesting.

To me that's low. Hopefully some smart people thing he should be in a tandem. So that's 34 games in a season he tandem pitches. Starter or the second guy makes no difference. But 78 innings is too low for that. I see 140 innings there.

I guess I missed something. Who is Taylor Trammell?

iamtheglove said:

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I guess I missed something. Who is Taylor Trammell?

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Left handed OFer we got from the Yankees for cash when they were making room on the 40 man.

$100 for 2025 Stros games would be awesome. I miss hearing TK, Blummer, and Julia on the reg.

Farmer1906 said:

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iamtheglove said:

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I guess I missed something. Who is Taylor Trammell?

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Left handed OFer we got from the Yankees for cash when they were making room on the 40 man.

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He's also a former first-round pick in 2016 that's been traded from the Reds to the Padres to the Mariners, then waived, picked up by the Dodgers, waived again, picked up by the Yankees.

Basically, a first-round pick that's done nothing in his career but bounce around.

Farmer1906 said:

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Yet Another Projection System: OOPSY

Position Players
Yordan Alvarez: 38 HR, 104 RBI, 181 wRC+, 6.0 WAR
Christian Walker: 33 HR, 93 RBI, 123 wRC+, 3.1 WAR
Isaac Paredes: 19 HR, 67 RBI, 118 wRC+, 3.2 WAR
Yainer Diaz: 22 HR, 74 RBI, 117 wRC+, 3.4 WAR
Jose Altuve: 19 HR, 74 RBI, 117 wRC+, 3.5 WAR
Jeremy Pena: 18 HR, 72 RBI, 108 wRC+, 3.6 WAR
Taylor Trammell: 11 HR, 35 RBI, 108 wRC+, 0.9 WAR
Chas McCormick: 15 HR, 51 RBI, 104 wRC+, 1.3 WAR
Jake Meyers: 10 HR, 41 RBI, 96 wRC+, 1.6 WAR
Mauricio Dubon: 5 HR, 29 RBI, 90 wRC+, 0.5 WAR

Starters
Framber Valdez: 186.0 IP, 3.24 ERA, 3.35 FIP, 3.8 WAR
Hunter Brown: 169.0 IP, 3.49 ERA, 3.55 FIP, 3.1 WAR
Ronel Blanco: 157.0 IP, 4.40 ERA, 4.62 FIP, 1.1 WAR
Spencer Arrighetti: 141.0 IP, 4.12 ERA, 4.30 FIP, 1.5 WAR
Luis Garcia: 124.0 IP, 4.00 ERA, 4.21 FIP, 1.3 WAR
Hayden Wesneski: 112.0 IP, 3.84 ERA, 4.12 FIP, 0.9 WAR
Lance McCullers: 78.0 IP, 3.73 ERA, 3.88 FIP, 0.8 WAR

Relievers
Josh Hader: 70.0 IP, 2.98 ERA, 3.38 FIP, 1.2 WAR
Bryan Abreu: 75.0 IP, 3.14 ERA, 3.40 FIP, 0.9 WAR
Ryan Pressly: 64.0 IP, 3.54 ERA, 3.61 FIP, 0.7 WAR
Taylor Scott: 68.0 IP, 4.04 ERA, 4.26 FIP, 0.0 WAR
Bryan King: 61.0 IP, 3.64 ERA, 3.84 FIP, 0.2 WAR
Kaleb Ort: 58.0 IP, 3.75 ERA, 4.23 FIP, 0.1 WAR
Forrest Whitley: 54.0 IP, 3.69 ERA, 3.98 FIP, 0.1 WAR
Shawn Dubin: 52.0 IP, 4.54 ERA, 4.72 FIP, 0.0 WAR


A few thoughts:

• They love Yordan. A 6 WAR from a mainly DH is huge.
• I think they're underselling Paredes' HRs by a good bit.
• 159 more hits for Altuve puts him at 2391. Just above the pace for 3000, but to think he's getting 154 hits a year in his late 30s is pushing it. We need 170+!
• 6 Players with a WAR above 3 is kind of wild.
• They believe in Brown being real and Blanco being a fluke.
• How are we feeling about LMJ's 78 innings? If healthy, it seems low. They only project 10 starts and 24 relief appearances. Interesting.
• Nothing really stands out for RP. Maybe that they expect Whitley to be a big part of it?

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The pen looks weak, but otherwise I think I would buy these numbers. I hope McCormick can bounce back a little more than shown.