Yo, Jim and Dana...
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Pretty slow day overall
no one traded or signed yet?
It would be on brand for the post Click Astros to not do anything after making it public they will trade their best players.
For me, Tucker has never been able to shed the "lollygagger" moniker.
He's a heckuva player with great tools but he hasn't "grown on me" like Bregman has.
He's a heckuva player with great tools but he hasn't "grown on me" like Bregman has.
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
There were times where it appeared he was lollygagging in the outfield. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. We just didn't see that as much with Springer, Bregs, Altuve and Correa.Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
And there were also times where Tuck made some pretty spectacular plays. He has the talent to be a top 10 player in the league, if not top 5 or MVP.
Will be interesting to see how he does/acts with another team.
Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
Maybe he could be Top 3 if he quit half-passing it…
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
The NYY were the team most favored by umpires in 2024 by over 7 runs to 2nd place Cleveland (32.9 to 25.87).MosesHallRAB04 said:
The biggest thing about Bregman is if he's worth the contract he'll get. He had a very rough offensive year. Not great timing for that. The most concerning thing to me is that his walk rate seemed to plummet.
I think a long deal for him will be painful especially at the end barring a major change.
The Astros were 7th to last at -5.04 runs.
That's probably worth a few walks.
https://umpscorecards.com/teams/
I can agree he made some business decisions on ball in RF during the regular season. That is why his defensive #s took a hit. I know we like to call him a 5 tool player, but he does not have the speed. He's a strong baserunner. But the metrics show he doesn't have the elite or even excellent high-end speed. He has zero bolts in his career.Wabs said:There were times where it appeared he was lollygagging in the outfield. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. We just didn't see that as much with Springer, Bregs, Altuve and Correa.Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
And there were also times where Tuck made some pretty spectacular plays. He has the talent to be a top 10 player in the league, if not top 5 or MVP.
Will be interesting to see how he does/acts with another team.
He had a slower home to 1st than guys like Yainer, Aledmys, Dezenzo, and Heyward last year. But even earlier in his career, he was behind Yuli.
Quote:
A Bolt is any run where the Sprint Speed (defined as "feet per second in a player's fastest one-second window") of the runner is at least 30 ft/sec.
Marvin said:
Yo, Jim and Dana...
My prediction is nada.
Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
I was going to argue with you about top 10 but he might be there.
1 Ohtani
2 Soto
3 betts
4 Witt jr
5. Alvarez
6. Henderson
7 Judge
8 Acuna?
9 durran
10 lindor
11 jrod?
Close enough
You're better than me. I'll actively root against him if he goes to the Yankees and enjoy his every failure. I'm vindictive like that.htxag09 said:Eh, works both ways.tylhair said:
If Alex Bregman goes to the Yankees it is because they believe he is worth market value and the Astros don't.
You can boo if you want, but maybe you should boo Jim Crane. I know you won't be alone.
Bregman has given everything to the team and city for a long time and brought us countless memories and a couple trophies. I think booing him is horse s***.
Let me be clear, I don't fault Bregman for going to the Yankees if they offer the most money. But....in doing so, he's putting aside all the crap thrown at him and his teammates by their fans (and even players) over the last several years. Which is fine. He can do that.
But if he can do that then I can also put aside the achievements he made here and boo him. I won't, I don't boo any players like that, it's silly, but I won't root for him even in the slightest.
What would he have done to you to earn your vindictiveness?Bassmaster said:You're better than me. I'll actively root against him if he goes to the Yankees and enjoy his every failure. I'm vindictive like that.htxag09 said:Eh, works both ways.tylhair said:
If Alex Bregman goes to the Yankees it is because they believe he is worth market value and the Astros don't.
You can boo if you want, but maybe you should boo Jim Crane. I know you won't be alone.
Bregman has given everything to the team and city for a long time and brought us countless memories and a couple trophies. I think booing him is horse s***.
Let me be clear, I don't fault Bregman for going to the Yankees if they offer the most money. But....in doing so, he's putting aside all the crap thrown at him and his teammates by their fans (and even players) over the last several years. Which is fine. He can do that.
But if he can do that then I can also put aside the achievements he made here and boo him. I won't, I don't boo any players like that, it's silly, but I won't root for him even in the slightest.
8-15 range is probably safe.Quo Vadis? said:Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
I was going to argue with you about top 10 but he might be there.
1 Ohtani
2 Soto
3 betts
4 Witt jr
5. Alvarez
6. Henderson
7 Judge
8 Acuna?
9 durran
10 lindor
11 jrod?
Close enough
Astros feel Yankees low-balling in Kyle Tucker trade talks, offering ‘crap’ https://t.co/3Y0RTcdBOZ
— Randy Miller (@RandyJMiller) December 12, 2024
“They want game-ready players. They don’t want to rebuild.”
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) December 12, 2024
“I talked to someone with the Astros’ front office and was told the Yankees didn’t offer anything the Astros wanted. Nothing. They think the Yankees have offered crap.” https://t.co/c18sA3e2Le
The instant gratification part of me is not enjoying baseball free agency or the football portal. Too much lolligagging by my teams!
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
**** the Yankees. Make them pay through the nose if they want Tucker.
EastCoastAgNc said:Astros feel Yankees low-balling in Kyle Tucker trade talks, offering ‘crap’ https://t.co/3Y0RTcdBOZ
— Randy Miller (@RandyJMiller) December 12, 2024“They want game-ready players. They don’t want to rebuild.”
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) December 12, 2024
“I talked to someone with the Astros’ front office and was told the Yankees didn’t offer anything the Astros wanted. Nothing. They think the Yankees have offered crap.” https://t.co/c18sA3e2Le
Good, screw the Yankees. But still use them to up the ante on Chicago, lol.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Marvin said:
The instant gratification part of me is not enjoying baseball free agency or the football portal. Too much lolligagging by my teams!
At least with the portal we know Elko will be aggressive in getting guys… we will see about Brown and Crane
Good. If you aren't going to get a decent haul then wait till the deadline in-season. Worst case scenario you get nothing and he walks in free agency, but I would rather have one more full season of Tucker than a pile of Yankee cow turds
Pretty clear that Gil or Dominguez aren't part of the Yankees package. That's a no-go if I'm Dana.
I just hope we don't screw around and lose the offer the Cubs supposedly have on the table. It is a good offer even without one of their top 2 IF prospects, although I would still push hard for that.
To me, any Yankees offer that doesn't include Gil AND Jasson Dominguez is a non-starter if the Cubs have a package like that on the table. I certainly understand if they are unwilling to part with so much, but there are no-trade fits with them otherwise.
"Hmmm...it looks like Tucker may be beyond your price range. We are, however, offering a special on Jake Meyers."
To me, any Yankees offer that doesn't include Gil AND Jasson Dominguez is a non-starter if the Cubs have a package like that on the table. I certainly understand if they are unwilling to part with so much, but there are no-trade fits with them otherwise.
"Hmmm...it looks like Tucker may be beyond your price range. We are, however, offering a special on Jake Meyers."
Farmer1906 said:I can agree he made some business decisions on ball in RF during the regular season. That is why his defensive #s took a hit. I know we like to call him a 5 tool player, but he does not have the speed. He's a strong baserunner. But the metrics show he doesn't have the elite or even excellent high-end speed. He has zero bolts in his career.Wabs said:There were times where it appeared he was lollygagging in the outfield. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. We just didn't see that as much with Springer, Bregs, Altuve and Correa.Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
And there were also times where Tuck made some pretty spectacular plays. He has the talent to be a top 10 player in the league, if not top 5 or MVP.
Will be interesting to see how he does/acts with another team.
He had a slower home to 1st than guys like Yainer, Aledmys, Dezenzo, and Heyward last year. But even earlier in his career, he was behind Yuli.Quote:
A Bolt is any run where the Sprint Speed (defined as "feet per second in a player's fastest one-second window") of the runner is at least 30 ft/sec.
He also has no ups at all. He doesn't play the ball over the wall very well at all. We see guys get up and pull balls back over our RF wall all the time. Tucker rarely does that. I don't know if he doesn't know how to jump or can't. But with our RF wall he's not making plays others are making.
Yall never cease to amaze me.
I'm glad Dana is sticking to his guns and hasn't pulled the trigger yet.
If he's gonna send Tucker to an AL competitor especially the Yankees he doesn't need to be accepting low ball offers.
The fact he hasn't done anything is a good thing.
I'm glad Dana is sticking to his guns and hasn't pulled the trigger yet.
If he's gonna send Tucker to an AL competitor especially the Yankees he doesn't need to be accepting low ball offers.
The fact he hasn't done anything is a good thing.
Quo Vadis? said:Farmer1906 said:
Yall are wild to still think Tucker is half assing his way to top 10 player in the league.
I was going to argue with you about top 10 but he might be there.
1 Ohtani
2 Soto
3 betts
4 Witt jr
5. Alvarez
6. Henderson
7 Judge
8 Acuna?
9 durran
10 lindor
11 jrod?
Close enough
Tucker is better than Jrod. Jrod has a way better PR firm working for him.
Agree! I'm anxious to see what we get in a trade but there is no reason to rush. It's critical we get back players that can start the rebuild, not JAGs. We have plenty of them.Ag_07 said:
Yall never cease to amaze me.
I'm glad Dana is sticking to his guns and hasn't pulled the trigger yet.
If he's gonna send Tucker to an AL competitor especially the Yankees he doesn't need to be accepting low ball offers.
The fact he hasn't done anything is a good thing.
How do we know the Cubs have anything on the table?SpaceCityAg05 said:
I just hope we don't screw around and lose the offer the Cubs supposedly have on the table. It is a good offer even without one of their top 2 IF prospects, although I would still push hard for that.
To me, any Yankees offer that doesn't include Gil AND Jasson Dominguez is a non-starter if the Cubs have a package like that on the table. I certainly understand if they are unwilling to part with so much, but there are no-trade fits with them otherwise.
"Hmmm...it looks like Tucker may be beyond your price range. We are, however, offering a special on Jake Meyers."
The supposed "offer" referenced in all the tweets never state that the cubs offered anything. The players mentioned in the tweets are "what the Astros want". I would think that if the package referenced was legit, the deal would already be done.
From Ortiz -- former Houston sportswriter
According to AL folks I trust, it will be a surprise if the Astros don’t trade Kyle Tucker within 48 hours. The Cubs appear like clear favorites. Until a deal is done, keep an eye on the Yankees, but Cubs were better positioned.
— Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) December 12, 2024
Still waiting on other sources to call back.
Yeah I didn't see anywhere that that was an actual offer.
Doubt it was since we never hear actual player names included in offers until way later if at all.
Doubt it was since we never hear actual player names included in offers until way later if at all.
I agree that we do not know. But I am guessing the talked about offer is close since it seems to be reported on by Astros media, Cubs media, and general baseball media.
My GUESS is that Paredes/Suzuki is agreeable, but we are trying to to get Cam Smith on top, causing them to balk.
I think the Cubs would much rather move Bellinger than Suzuki, but I am guessing that won't be a deal breaker. If it were, the Astros probably would be open to swapping out Bellinger for Suzuki, but that would require some additional variables to come into play, including the possibility of Pressly and other pieces being in play.
My GUESS is that Paredes/Suzuki is agreeable, but we are trying to to get Cam Smith on top, causing them to balk.
I think the Cubs would much rather move Bellinger than Suzuki, but I am guessing that won't be a deal breaker. If it were, the Astros probably would be open to swapping out Bellinger for Suzuki, but that would require some additional variables to come into play, including the possibility of Pressly and other pieces being in play.
NGL, giving Yankees fans blue balls just to say no thanks we are trading him to another team would be a nice Christmas treat.
SpaceCityAg05 said:
I agree that we do not know. But I am guessing the talked about offer is close since it seems to be reported on by Astros media, Cubs media, and general baseball media.
My GUESS is that Paredes/Suzuki is agreeable, but we are trying to to get Cam Smith on top, causing them to balk.
I think the Cubs would much rather move Bellinger than Suzuki, but I am guessing that won't be a deal breaker. If it were, the Astros probably would be open to swapping out Bellinger for Suzuki, but that would require some additional variables to come into play, including the possibility of Pressly and other pieces being in play.
I hope this is the case.
What's the difference in money and control in switching Suzuki for Cody?
EastCoastAgNc said:
What's the difference in money and control in switching Suzuki for Cody?
Cody 1 year with an option for 2. Extra 10-15 million going off memory.
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