it feels like the Astros front office has finally woken up
***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****
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Per Baseball Trade Value, Framber has about half the value of Crochet. But that makes sense since he's only a rental.EABC_AG said:
Trade Framber if you can attain even a portion of what that Crochet return looks like.
We need to play hard ball with the Yankees. **** them. Gil and Dominguez must be in any package.
Bregs in pinstripes doesn't really concern me. Tuck does.
Hot Stove and Transfer Portal and slow work day..F5 on repeat
Yankees for Bregman will bode well for his Hall of Fame chances. It would get the writers on his side.
This offseason is 100x more fun than last offseason. I have a feeling we'll be 90% done by the end of the month.
The Astros had the 20th pick in the Rule 5 Draft and chose to pass.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 11, 2024
tylhair said:
Yankees for Bregman will bode well for his Hall of Fame chances. It would get the writers on his side.
But, but, but...hE cHeAtEd!!!
also batting in front of Aaron Judge
The Astros had the 20th pick in the Rule 5 Draft and chose to pass.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 11, 2024
Umm…. What?
Believe or not, one of the most aggressive teams in the Max Fried sweepstakes were the Athletics before he signed his 8-year, $218 million deal with the Yankees.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 11, 2024
surprised teams aren't asking about Dubon in return
he's so valuable...you know...can play everything position and such
he's so valuable...you know...can play everything position and such
Cubs fan just visiting with the Astros rumors heating up.
My one wish all offseason was to move Parades. So thanks in advance for that. It would be bittersweet to lose Suzuki - he is a stud when right. Struggled in the outfield at times, which was odd based on his reputation in Japan.
I also assume the Astros would be trying to include Pressly to shed some payroll. Not exactly the impact bullpen arm I would be hoping to bring in this offseason.
I assume the Cubs are trying moreso to include Bellinger in this deal, which makes some sense positionally for the Astros but not necessarily financially.
My one wish all offseason was to move Parades. So thanks in advance for that. It would be bittersweet to lose Suzuki - he is a stud when right. Struggled in the outfield at times, which was odd based on his reputation in Japan.
I also assume the Astros would be trying to include Pressly to shed some payroll. Not exactly the impact bullpen arm I would be hoping to bring in this offseason.
I assume the Cubs are trying moreso to include Bellinger in this deal, which makes some sense positionally for the Astros but not necessarily financially.
Astros want controllable MLB players to beef up the 2026-2029 competitive window.
Tucker is a stud but no shot the astros shell out to sign him to an extension.
Parades seems like a good contract and match for our short porch in LF. Why are you so motivated to get rid of him? was he trash after the midseason trade?
Tucker is a stud but no shot the astros shell out to sign him to an extension.
Parades seems like a good contract and match for our short porch in LF. Why are you so motivated to get rid of him? was he trash after the midseason trade?
Star OF Kyle Tucker’s plan for obvious reasons is said to become a free agent in a year, so an acquiring team won’t be likely to be able to extend him. He surely saw how the market treated Soto and some metrics are comparable https://t.co/imQdC0YSLr
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 11, 2024
Yes, he wasn't very good at all after the midseason trade.
His power was non-existent and to be honest would be much better of a fit in the juice box. His glove, which had good grades was a disappointment. Trying to give him some slack since being traded midseason can be rough on players - they aren't robots after all. Cubs best prospect, Matt Shaw, is knocking on the door after switching from 2B to 3B last year, so the trade was a bit of a head scratcher for me to essentially block him.
Edit: Oh, also Parades is slow as molasses, lol. It was infuriating to watch him run the bases.
His power was non-existent and to be honest would be much better of a fit in the juice box. His glove, which had good grades was a disappointment. Trying to give him some slack since being traded midseason can be rough on players - they aren't robots after all. Cubs best prospect, Matt Shaw, is knocking on the door after switching from 2B to 3B last year, so the trade was a bit of a head scratcher for me to essentially block him.
Edit: Oh, also Parades is slow as molasses, lol. It was infuriating to watch him run the bases.
82 OPS+ after the trade. Not great. But would be a better fit in Houston.
I don't know why I'm getting my hopes up...
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Lordy, the Astros better not let Breggy sign with NY and then trade them Tucker for a mild return.
They don't have any control where he signs.
BTW...Username checks out
BTW...Username checks out
pretty freaking good for a ten year run
time to blow it up
time to blow it up
The longer this trade talk with Tucker drags out the less confident I am that the front office finalizes a deal that will make the zoo happy. Especially with the Bregman situation causing concern that he may go to the Yankees. Then Tucker ending up with them too would be a nightmare.
That is a playoff black hole of death with Judge and Tucker batting back to back.
BCEDAg said:
The longer this trade talk with Tucker drags out the less confident I am that the front office finalizes a deal that will make the zoo happy. Especially with the Bregman situation causing concern that he may go to the Yankees. Then Tucker ending up with them too would be a nightmare.
The Yankees are not getting both of them
10andBOUNCE said:
Yes, he wasn't very good at all after the midseason trade.
His power was non-existent and to be honest would be much better of a fit in the juice box. His glove, which had good grades was a disappointment. Trying to give him some slack since being traded midseason can be rough on players - they aren't robots after all. Cubs best prospect, Matt Shaw, is knocking on the door after switching from 2B to 3B last year, so the trade was a bit of a head scratcher for me to essentially block him.
Edit: Oh, also Parades is slow as molasses, lol. It was infuriating to watch him run the bases.
Welcome, friend.
Parades has always been a below-average glove. He's not some big masher and doesn't have crazy pop. What he does well is draw walks and not K. What he does elite is pull the ball in the air. The Cubs had no business trading for him. He is built for the Crawford boxes.
Spray chart comparison
LA between 15-50
EV 85+
Why not? They have room in the payroll.astros4545 said:BCEDAg said:
The longer this trade talk with Tucker drags out the less confident I am that the front office finalizes a deal that will make the zoo happy. Especially with the Bregman situation causing concern that he may go to the Yankees. Then Tucker ending up with them too would be a nightmare.
The Yankees are not getting both of them
If they do, its because you jinxed us by saying thatastros4545 said:BCEDAg said:
The longer this trade talk with Tucker drags out the less confident I am that the front office finalizes a deal that will make the zoo happy. Especially with the Bregman situation causing concern that he may go to the Yankees. Then Tucker ending up with them too would be a nightmare.
The Yankees are not getting both of them
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10andBOUNCE said:
Yes, he wasn't very good at all after the midseason trade.
His power was non-existent and to be honest would be much better of a fit in the juice box. His glove, which had good grades was a disappointment. Trying to give him some slack since being traded midseason can be rough on players - they aren't robots after all. Cubs best prospect, Matt Shaw, is knocking on the door after switching from 2B to 3B last year, so the trade was a bit of a head scratcher for me to essentially block him.
Edit: Oh, also Parades is slow as molasses, lol. It was infuriating to watch him run the bases.
Astros aren't really used to having a burner base runner at 3rd anyway. Bregman is slow as **** and runs like a duck
MosesHallRAB04 said:10andBOUNCE said:
Yes, he wasn't very good at all after the midseason trade.
His power was non-existent and to be honest would be much better of a fit in the juice box. His glove, which had good grades was a disappointment. Trying to give him some slack since being traded midseason can be rough on players - they aren't robots after all. Cubs best prospect, Matt Shaw, is knocking on the door after switching from 2B to 3B last year, so the trade was a bit of a head scratcher for me to essentially block him.
Edit: Oh, also Parades is slow as molasses, lol. It was infuriating to watch him run the bases.
Astros aren't really used to having a burner base runner at 3rd anyway. Bregman is slow as **** and runs like a duck
Hamster. He runs like a hamster.
The bigger the deal, the harder it is to pull off, but it is fascinating to think of the possibility of pulling off a trade where (approximately, not counting prospects possibly needed to level things out) you send Tucker and Pressly out to Chicago (plus losing Bregman in FA) and get Paredes, Suzuki, and Bellinger in return.
You would be right at the tax line, one reliever short, but have traded one lineup mainstay for three to lengthen your lineup AND your window:
C Diaz
1B Singleton (move Belli to 1B and put Meyers/Dubon in CF against LHP)
2B Altuve
3B Paredes
SS Pena
LF Suzuki
CF Bellinger
RF McCormick
That is suddenly a much deeper lineup. If you drop the Pressly/Bellinger part, it is still an upgrade and you can flip Pressly another way that doesn't increase payroll like Belli.
You would be right at the tax line, one reliever short, but have traded one lineup mainstay for three to lengthen your lineup AND your window:
C Diaz
1B Singleton (move Belli to 1B and put Meyers/Dubon in CF against LHP)
2B Altuve
3B Paredes
SS Pena
LF Suzuki
CF Bellinger
RF McCormick
That is suddenly a much deeper lineup. If you drop the Pressly/Bellinger part, it is still an upgrade and you can flip Pressly another way that doesn't increase payroll like Belli.
20th slowest.Mathguy64 said:MosesHallRAB04 said:10andBOUNCE said:
Yes, he wasn't very good at all after the midseason trade.
His power was non-existent and to be honest would be much better of a fit in the juice box. His glove, which had good grades was a disappointment. Trying to give him some slack since being traded midseason can be rough on players - they aren't robots after all. Cubs best prospect, Matt Shaw, is knocking on the door after switching from 2B to 3B last year, so the trade was a bit of a head scratcher for me to essentially block him.
Edit: Oh, also Parades is slow as molasses, lol. It was infuriating to watch him run the bases.
Astros aren't really used to having a burner base runner at 3rd anyway. Bregman is slow as **** and runs like a duck
Hamster. He runs like a hamster.
Astros selected RHP Jean Pinto from Orioles' Double-A roster. He underwent Tommy John surgery last March. https://t.co/ebU6zvd0VI
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 11, 2024
The Astros lost no players in the Rule 5 Draft, but took five players in the Minor League phase:
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 11, 2024
Julio Rodriguez, RHP (Giants Double-A)
Jean Pinto, RHP (Orioles Double-A)
Anderson Bido, RHP (Rockies Double-A)
Jack Blomgren, SS (Rockies High-A)
Nick Swiney, LHP (Giants Double-A)
Cody Bellinger would be a great fit for Yankees since he’s very good at 1B and very solid in CF, too. But for now there’s a gap on the $. Cubs don’t want to eat any of it, Yankees think they should. Bellinger is guaranteed $52.5M over 2 years with an opt-out after 2025.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 11, 2024
Cubs and Yankees pursuing star Astros outfielder Kyle Tucker, multiple sources tell KPRC 2.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) December 11, 2024
Astros have had discussions with Cubs about Suzuki, Paredes & prospect Cam Smith.
Yankees “prepared to make big offer” for Tucker, a league source says: https://t.co/5zkqncK8g8
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