***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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Farmer1906
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All I do is Nguyen said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Moncada is a name I've heard come up a couple times
Didn't we learn our lesson form the LAST ChiSox infielder we signed?


Moncada is about a "meh" as it gets. Might as well just roll with Dubon.

If that's the path we go, we better make significant improvements at 1B and add to the OF.
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Farmer1906 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Moncada is a name I've heard come up a couple times
Didn't we learn our lesson form the LAST ChiSox infielder we signed?


Moncada is about a "meh" as it gets. Might as well just roll with Dubon.

If that's the path we go, we better make significant improvements at 1B and add to the OF.
Yup. I have no interest in Moncada.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Moncada is a name I've heard come up a couple times

I'd be disappointed if Dana signs Moncado. He's injury prone.
Farmer1906
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Holy ***** How did Rooker beat out Yordan for the SS?



Brent had a great year and was close, but Yordan was clearly better.
tjack16
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Farmer1906 said:

Holy ***** How did Rooker beat out Yordan for the SS?



Brent had a great year and was close, but Yordan was clearly better.


Fairly even if you look across the triple crown categories and OPS.

Rooker was better in two, and Yordan better in the other two


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Quote:


https://stathead.com/tiny/tSAL2

Its pretty close. Rooker has a big edge in RBI, I suspect due to batting order.
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Yordan vs Rooker 2024

WAR, HR, RBI, and SB favors Rooker.
Hits, BA, OBP, SLG, OPS+ favors Yordan.

Eh, I'd think Yordan deserved it, but it doesn't seem to be an egregious snub.

Farmer1906
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Yordan was better at getting hits, getting on base, and hitting the ball for extra bases. He walked more, struck out less, and hit the ball harder. The one-stop shop offensive categories wOBA, wRC+. OFF WAR all favor Yordan.
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scrimp said:

Yordan vs Rooker 2024

WAR, HR, RBI, and SB favors Rooker.
Hits, BA, OBP, SLG, OPS+ favors Yordan.

Eh, I'd think Yordan deserved it, but it doesn't seem to be an egregious snub.


Just an FYI, Yordan has a better oWAR per baseball ref (the site you used). Rooker catches him mainly due to defense. I am not sure that should factor into DH SS.
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Seems obvious that many still care about the traditional counting stats the most.
tjack16
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redline248 said:

Seems obvious that many still care about the traditional counting stats the most.


I'd imagine the people that are giving away these awards probably favored the old-school stats more than the advanced analytics that front offices probably favor.
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Not a fan of Yordan in the 2 hole. At all
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houag78
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Yordan will be a HOF. Rooker had a good year, but not in same league as YA.
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EastCoastAgNc said:




Remind me again why we couldn't keep him? Could have sworn he was going to retire or something
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tjack16 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




Remind me again why we couldn't keep him? Could have sworn he was going to retire or something

Makes you wonder if that was just a load of bs, huh? Money talks I suppose.
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By the time Strom had left, it was primarily Murphy and Miller working with the pitchers and Strom had more of an advisor role.

A lot of the credit fans give Strom really should go to Murphy and Miller. He actually told the organization that Houston needed to do whatever it takes to keep them both on board when he was on his way out.

At the end of the day, Strom wanted to be closer to home which was a big reason he took the Arizona job. I'm surprised to see him take a job in Pittsburgh, but some of these guys in baseball have a hard time stepping away.
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Strom is good people
The Porkchop Express
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houag78 said:

Yordan will be a HOF. Rooker had a good year, but not in same league as YA.
Yordan needs to basically never get hurt again and be an automatic .300 35 HR 100 RBI guy if you think he's going to make the Hall of Fame. Needs a couple of regular season MVPs or at least one and a WS MVP as well. So far in his career he's led the league in ZERO categories for a season.
Farmer1906
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Since 2000 - Career wRC+
1. Bonds 203
2. Judge 173
3. Trout 169
4. Alvarez 168
5. Soto 158

As long as he keeps hitting like he is. He'll get in. Just gotta keep it up.
Farmer1906
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Farmer1906 said:

Since 2000 - Career wRC+
1. Bonds 203
2. Judge 173
3. Trout 169
4. Alvarez 168
5. Soto 158

As long as he keeps hitting like he is. He'll get in. Just gotta keep it up.


Same order if you go back to 1970. If you got back to 1960 Mantle jumps in and 1950 gets Ted in there.

The reason most all timers aren't in this is because their career is more than Prime. Regardless, Yordan is on a scorching pace.
houag78
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Thanks for the data 1906. I've watched a lot of baseball in my almost 70 years, and I really do think YA is special. I am slightly concerned about the injury situation, but I just think he's going to have a long successful career.
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When healthy he is definitely a top three hitter in baseball. I just don't think we have seen back to back fully healthy seasons without any IL stints from him since he got called up.

My top four hitters in baseball would be Ohtani, Soto, Alvarez, and Judge.
Wabs
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Alec Bohm apparently on the trade block. Any interest if we don't re-sign Breggy?
Mr.Bond
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Rays playing at Yanks AAA stadium this year...... 11k capacity.....still won't sell out
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

Farmer1906
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Wabs said:

Alec Bohm apparently on the trade block. Any interest if we don't re-sign Breggy?


Yea, because the other options are pretty bad.

He's shown flashes of being a good hitter. But he's inconsistent and immature. There is a reason the Phillies are shopping him.
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Mr.Bond said:

Rays playing at Yanks AAA stadium this year...... 11k capacity.....still won't sell out
it's right by downtown and the airport, so, we'll find out if an aversion to driving across the bridge is really the problem like they claim
https://ts.la/eric59704
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gambochaman
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does that mean cintron and snitker are out?
Ag_07
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Sounds like these guys are more at an organizational level that dictate overall offensive approach/philosophy.

I like it.
The Porkchop Express
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I can't believe the Director of Hitting and Hitting Coordinator are real titles.

Please add:
Hitting Czar
Assistant to the Regional Hitting Manager
Minister of Hitting
Grand Hitting Master
CHO (Chief Hitting Officer)

Mathguy64
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The OCHO. The Organizational Chief Hitting Officer
BCEDAg
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The Porkchop Express said:

I can't believe the Director of Hitting and Hitting Coordinator are real titles.

Please add:
Hitting Czar
Assistant to the Regional Hitting Manager
Minister of Hitting
Grand Hitting Master
CHO (Chief Hitting Officer)



I would add Master of Hitting.
redline248
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Secretary of Slugging, please
W
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or Secretary of Walking
 
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