***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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Farmer1906
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4:10p, 11/8/24
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Bregman Tweet Dump









Some 1B Talk



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4:24p, 11/8/24
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Goldschmidt feels like doing the Jose Abreu exercise all over again. Guy who is showing clear signs of decline that we would have to overpay to get
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 4:27p, 11/8/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:
Goldschmidt feels like doing the Jose Abreu exercise all over again. Guy who is showing clear signs of decline that we would have to overpay to get



Why would we have to overpay for him?
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5:19p, 11/8/24
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I've been able to watch a lot of Walker the last 2 years and think he's a fit. Hiys and plays great defense.
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6:16p, 11/8/24
You can basically get Kim and Walker for the price of Bregman. Putting emotional attachment aside, that's a no brainer. My only question from that is what could you get for Dezenzo as he has no position for the foreseeable future.
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In reply to MaxPower • 6:48p, 11/8/24
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MaxPower said:
You can basically get Kim and Walker for the price of Bregman. Putting emotional attachment aside, that's a no brainer. My only question from that is what could you get for Dezenzo as he has no position for the foreseeable future.


I posed that question to a couple Astros nuts and I think the answer was heart = Bregman and head = Kim/Walker.

But there is a very realistic world where Bregman outperforms both by a significant margin over the next 2-3 years. I don't think it's a slam dunk.
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7:11p, 11/8/24
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:25p, 11/8/24
Yes but also possible he continues the downward slide with the bat and both Kim and Walker each have better seasons and you don't have to deal with as much of the back half of the contract. After Abreu, Walker scares me a bit but at least I know I'm getting the defense.
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In reply to MaxPower • 7:48p, 11/8/24
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The Kim / Walker had a floor off very good defense, but Bregman kind of does too. Sure, they could outperform him, but based on age and history Bregman is much more likely to be better. The downside would be he fills one hole and he will likely be not worth it by the end of his deal. They clearly fill 2 and would be shorter term commitments. Maybe we get under the tax with Bregman if we sell off a few guys. No chance we do with Kim & Walker. There are pros and cons. Not a no brainer at all.
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7:52p, 11/8/24
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8:05p, 11/8/24
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Bregman needs to retire as an Astro. Hopefully he's the second that realizes he is destined to be here and may not be a fit on another team.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:46p, 11/8/24
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I guess you never say never, but as close to zero chance as you can get the Mets sign Bregman.

ETA: without knowing you guys system and money situation, I think it's likely you guys sign Walker and perhaps a smaller possibility you get Alonso.
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In reply to Nitro Power • 9:12p, 11/8/24
Alonso is outside our price range. If we are gonna spend that big it will be for Bregman.
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9:39p, 11/8/24
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The difference is I feel we know what we're getting with Bregman both on and off the field.

It's a little unknown with any of the other options.
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10:23p, 11/8/24
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How would we feel if the offseason was Goldy and Kim plus other minor stuff?

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10:31p, 11/8/24
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I wouldn't have guessed that Adames would go for a deferred contract.
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10:38p, 11/8/24
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It was kind of cool to see him in Astros gear but I'm not exactly sad he's gone.
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6:03a, 11/9/24
Regarding Reggie Jackson, it was tough to tell how much power he had (and even Bagwell for that matter) and that's a problem. I don't know if Dana Brown is the guy or not but fewer voices in the room is a good thing. The ex-player dynamic with Crane seems unhealthy based on how the Click situation played out and the lack of congruency with roster decisions over last few seasons has to stop.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:08a, 11/9/24
Farmer1906 said:
How would we feel if the offseason was Goldy and Kim plus other minor stuff?

I wonder where this lefty bat Dana referenced is coming from. I dunno what Casas would take but Framber is a perfect fit for them.
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8:16a, 11/9/24
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I know nothing of this Reinhart fella but he does mention the Astros as a suitor. Guessing this would fall under pipedream BS category.

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In reply to Ag_07 • 8:18a, 11/9/24
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Ag_07 said:
I know nothing of this Reinhart fella but he does mention the Astros as a suitor. Guessing this would fall under pipedream BS category.



I'm pretty sure he's a parody guy
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8:25a, 11/9/24
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Whoever it is they will have very deep pockets. So NYY, LAD, NYM, maybe LAA or ChiC. $600MM kind of limits the options.
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8:59a, 11/9/24
The one thing about Soto is Crane strikes me as the kind of guy who would love to stick it to the Yankees. We also have to consider our situation. Right now you are looking at losing Bregman, Tucker and Framber in a 12 month span. If you decide you have to bite the bullet to hand out one mega deal, why not Soto while letting those 3 go? Soto would likely make less than Bregman plus Framber combined this year so you save money signing Soto instead of resigning Bregman (if you also trade one of Framber or Tucker). That lineup would look stacked in 2025 with Tuve, Yordan, Soto and Tucker.

I still highly doubt Crane would throw the bag necessary at Soto (Mets seem like the best fit).
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In reply to tjack16 • 9:02a, 11/9/24
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His Twitter feed doesn't look parody
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In reply to agproducer • 9:18a, 11/9/24
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agproducer said:
His Twitter feed doesn't look parody


He's wrong about pretty much everything besides Auburn stuff.
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In reply to tjack16 • 9:23a, 11/9/24
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On second look, you may be right
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10:49a, 11/9/24
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The rich set to get richer thanks to the Ohtani contact.

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10:56a, 11/9/24
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So. $1MM/year, 7 years and $ 153MM deferred?
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In reply to Dave North • 11:04a, 11/9/24
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they have / had power and influence with regard to the old players

that's why the Astros have held onto so many of them too long and paid them too much
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In reply to agproducer • 11:07a, 11/9/24
agproducer said:
The rich set to get richer thanks to the Ohtani contact.

They need to limit how many Japanese players a given team can sign over a period of time. It's not good for the game to have all the good Japanese players on 2 or 3 teams anyway.
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In reply to MaxPower • 11:12a, 11/9/24
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Should they do the same for Dominicans and Cubans too?
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In reply to Project Gemini • 11:16a, 11/9/24
Dominicans and Cubans are signed as high schoolers and there is a limit on how much you can spend in international free agency so that limitation already exists. The Dodgers basically treat Japan as their farm team.
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In reply to MaxPower • 11:31a, 11/9/24
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Framber and Ronel weren't.
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In reply to Project Gemini • 11:42a, 11/9/24
They would count towards international signing rules if they signed at the same age today.
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In reply to Project Gemini • 11:44a, 11/9/24
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Project Gemini said:
Framber and Ronel weren't.

Completely different
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