2024/2025 season youth baseball/softball check-in

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IMO let them walk. That's not the type of parents that you want on your team anyways. They just did ya'll a favor.
I coached select for 6 years and there is no way that kid would be on the team anymore.
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Our first team we played on with our oldest did something similar. Coach moved the kid in an inning where he missed a routine pop-up fly as SS. Moved him to center (and center to SS). Dad got mad and pulled the kid from the tournament and started talking mess on groupme.

Coach's wife went a little 'attack dog' and was interesting 'tea' for others. We didn't get an auto-out, but he was the next game starting pitcher and hampered us going into the finals. Got 2nd, but never saw that kid on the team again.

I'd get that dad off the team. As one of our past coaches said, "I don't kick kids off the team; I kick parents off".

~egon
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Yeah, y'all are preaching to the choir. I've just never seen a parent go after a coach who is trying to protect their kid's health because they think their kid is being a wuss.
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TarponChaser said:

Yeah, y'all are preaching to the choir. I've just never seen a parent go after a coach who is trying to protect their kid's health because they think their kid is being a wuss.
Yea that's "uncommon" I would say...even for travel baseball. Sure we've all heard the stories but I've personally haven't seen that yet. I feel bad for the kid.
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Any recommendations on a pitching coach in the Cypress / Tomball / NW Houston area? Looking for someone to work with my 14 year old as he gets ready for Highschool. He has pretty good command, changes speeds well and keep hitters off balance but just not getting the velo he should for a kid who is 5'10" - 160lbs and built like an ox. His FB is mid to upper 60's, but he is either scared to let it rip or just doesn't know how to get in his lower half to capture his strength.
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He's an absolute piece of work, but you might try Demetrius Mitchell of DM Pitching. He knows pitching if you can get past his bravado.
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aggielax48 said:

He's an absolute piece of work, but you might try Demetrius Mitchell of DM Pitching. He knows pitching if you can get past his bravado.
I can vouch for both statements. My oldest has worked with him and once he gets back from his knee surgery will again. The results have been really good.

It took a little bit to get used to but he tweaked his delivery some which upped his velo quickly with less effort in his motion and more consistent on strikes. Plus he got him thinking more on pitch strategy. And he stresses mechanics which are meant to protect arms.
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We got started with Demetrius a couple weeks ago. I can see what yall are talking about, they guy is a piece of work for sure, but I like the adjustments he's made with my boys so far. My oldest immediately gained 4-5 mph of velo with a few tweaks to really get him throwing with his legs. My 11 year old hasn't had the big leap yet, but he has him throwing with decent velo and good mechanics. Some of it may need to wait until he matures enough to really grasp the concepts. So far, so good, I'll be happy to keep biting my tongue if he can keep delivering results for both of my boys.
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TarponChaser said:

Doing due diligence on the guy who's been around the scene for 20 years and pretty much everybody said, "he can be a bit of an a-hole but he absolutely knows baseball and is a great instructor who will have your kid ready to play in HS" so we'll take some lumps losing games for a while in exchange for development.


Love the thread and really great advice quoted above. Parents need to be way less concerned with how good their kids team is and more concerned with the coaching they are receiving and how they are being developed.

I have a senior (baseball) and sophomore (softball) so really fun to read through experiences that are being had in the 8u-12u group again.

Had a proud dad moment this week as my son signed his LOI to play at Eastern Oklahoma (Juco). God willing, he'll tear it up and be at A&M in a couple years .

Daughter is in the recruiting process right now and it's looking likely she'll end up at the D2 level.

We are at a 6A school in Oklahoma, would be happy to share any wisdom gained for those out there interested in the HS experience.
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If you have 12U and under, enjoy it. Get in Cooperstown if you can, but even without that, just enjoy it. This had been such a fun journey up until 13u. I guess parents are getting serious at the 13/14U age point. My son just made a national team, which is cool, but I would rather he play AAA with some friends. I am not ungrateful for his opportunity, just sad what this has all turned into. We used to stack teams on occasion, but I prefer this to be about fun, rather than make it into something more than it is. Just enjoy the purity at the younger ages.

I haven't read much on here lately because I am burned out. However, Nels moved to Fivetool, and PG Austin has been taken over by Darren Larson. Nels has always treated me well and I don't have a bad thing to say. However, Darren has indicated that he's going to provide a lot more to this area.

I had a purpose to this message, but after all the rambling -- I've forgotten what it was.





Baseball Is Life
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Also, PG HQ in Cedar Park is behind, but moving in the right direction. The main road has been finished and equipment can get in now. From what I am hearing, late 2025. This is another thing that makes me sad. Ha. I sat in the Hutto City Council meeting when the PG contractor was trying to collect his $6M that was stolen from him. If Hutto didn't screw them over, PG HQ would have already been rolling.
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The only thing Darren is going to improve is his bank account. Guy is a total jackass.
TarponChaser
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Baseball Is Life said:

Also, PG HQ in Cedar Park is behind, but moving in the right direction. The main road has been finished and equipment can get in now. From what I am hearing, late 2025. This is another thing that makes me sad. Ha. I sat in the Hutto City Council meeting when the PG contractor was trying to collect his $6M that was stolen from him. If Hutto didn't screw them over, PG HQ would have already been rolling.

Frankly, I'm bummed that project went to CP. They were strongly looking at property less than 10 minutes from my house. And given how big the scene is in Houston, especially for the NIT stuff it makes more sense.
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Bringing this here because I know some folks in the Houston area have younger kids who might need some gear and it can be a PITA as they grow quickly and needing to upgrade sizes. I'll make some deals for fellow Aggies.

Selling gear that my boys have outgrown and now cleaning out the garage. Bats have typical scratching but are otherwise solid and still have lots of pop.

- Marucci F5 USSSA; 27" -10 ($40)
- Marucci Cat8 Alloy USSSA; 28" -10 ($45)
- Marucci Cat9 Pastime Alloy USSSA; 29" -10 ($55)
- DBat 30" youth maple wood bat ($30)
- Marucci 31" -3 maple BBCOR ($50)
- EvoShield youth S/M helmet ($15)
- All Star Young Pro CM110110BT catchers mitt ($60)

Headed out of town tomorrow for Thanksgiving but if any of y'all DM me and want stuff I'll take it off Facebook.

The CamWood and two-tone Marucci AM22 Pro Maple are both sold though.

Baseball Is Life
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TarponChaser said:

Baseball Is Life said:

Also, PG HQ in Cedar Park is behind, but moving in the right direction. The main road has been finished and equipment can get in now. From what I am hearing, late 2025. This is another thing that makes me sad. Ha. I sat in the Hutto City Council meeting when the PG contractor was trying to collect his $6M that was stolen from him. If Hutto didn't screw them over, PG HQ would have already been rolling.

Frankly, I'm bummed that project went to CP. They were strongly looking at property less than 10 minutes from my house. And given how big the scene is in Houston, especially for the NIT stuff it makes more sense.


Honestly, it probably would have gotten completed anywhere else. I just wish it was done.. somewhere. With that said, Hutto screwed it up and not CP.

It does make sense in central Texas, though. SA and CC have a few good teams. Nitro, Texas Twelve, etc. Houston does dominate overall, but there are other good teams elsewhere and this is "central" Texas.
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Baseball Is Life said:

Also, PG HQ in Cedar Park is behind, but moving in the right direction. The main road has been finished and equipment can get in now. From what I am hearing, late 2025. This is another thing that makes me sad. Ha. I sat in the Hutto City Council meeting when the PG contractor was trying to collect his $6M that was stolen from him. If Hutto didn't screw them over, PG HQ would have already been rolling.

I'll believe that when I see it. Those signs have been up forever it seems. Looks like to me they are banking on retail space in front to fund this which likely has not happened. I could see this totally fading away like the Schlittebahn along 1431 and the tennis center that was going in at 1431 and CR175.
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Does anyone have any Houston area hitting instructor recommendations? Would prefer SW side if possible and would be working with 10 year old.

Thanks
Baseball Is Life
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docb said:

Baseball Is Life said:

Also, PG HQ in Cedar Park is behind, but moving in the right direction. The main road has been finished and equipment can get in now. From what I am hearing, late 2025. This is another thing that makes me sad. Ha. I sat in the Hutto City Council meeting when the PG contractor was trying to collect his $6M that was stolen from him. If Hutto didn't screw them over, PG HQ would have already been rolling.

I'll believe that when I see it. Those signs have been up forever it seems. Looks like to me they are banking on retail space in front to fund this which likely has not happened. I could see this totally fading away like the Schlittebahn along 1431 and the tennis center that was going in at 1431 and CR175.

It will 100% get done and the only hold-up has been Cedar Park. Schlitterbahn had that kid die, then came the lawsuits, criminal charges, etc. and that is what sunk them. Those are two very different situations.
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That Perfect Game sign has been up for years. I can't believe the city has held it up for that long. More likely $$ has held it up.
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Highly recommend Gradum GSwing. They have a location near Beltway and I-10. Worth the drive.
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JBAG064 said:

Does anyone have any Houston area hitting instructor recommendations? Would prefer SW side if possible and would be working with 10 year old.

Thanks
Sid Holland on the west side of Houston is really good, but I don't know if he works with anyone that young.
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Bit of a delayed update but the oldest had his 6-month post-ACL surgery follow up and testing on 12/10. Obviously he's not back to 100% for competition but based on his return-to-play testing the surgeon gave him the full release for all baseball activities with the only restriction being that he wants him wearing his brace on the bump for another couple months.

He also checked in at 6'1" 195# (won't be 15 until July). He was about 5'11" 170 in April.



HS tryouts are in a month so he's focusing on his speed & agility while ramping up his throwing to build back his velo. He's been offered as spot on one of the Wildcatters 2028 Scout teams for the summer and he's taking that. His coach requested he come to their "showcase" last weekend at UH and while there was some rust and tentativeness evident on the field you could see the potential for when he's 100%. He went ahead and threw off the bump for the first time since April and hit 77 on the gun and located his breaking ball & change really well. Also hit one shot that landed just in front of the warning track in front of the LC 390' sign.
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Good morning!! I just saw this thread.

I will eventually post this on a seperate thread, but whatever team choose, be sure to know 100% what the pitching rules and arm care program is from the coaches. We have all seen some absolute insane stuff out there.

I would say some very basics are, at least beginning in 11u but most certainly 12u, you need AT LEAST 12 players to compete safely. And anyone who has a parent that complains about their son sitting the bench before or after pitching should take a hike.

Also, everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, involved in a team from parents to coaches to players should read and fully understand Little League elbow.

We now have two teams, a 13u majors team and a 12u AAA team. The 13u team has 13 players and the 12u team has 12. Any less and you are doing a major disservice to the children you are there to help and protect. Don't be afraid of parents.

A friend of mine's son is in his first year of JUCO ball. He was going to play for an ACC school but had to have elbow surgery(not directly from baseball and he is not a pitcher). His dad told me the other day that his JUCO team, which is in Texas, has 14 players that have already had either Tommy John or rotator cuff surgery. That is absolutely shameful.

That's it. We are really excited about this season. I cannot wait to get our boys on the field again.
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It is a product of playing baseball year round and way too many games. I know a lot will disagree because they think their kids have to do this to play in college, etc. But when we were young (40 years ago) almost no one had ever heard of little league elbow. We did it to ourselves.
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docb said:

It is a product of playing baseball year round and way too many games. I know a lot will disagree because they think their kids have to do this to play in college, etc. But when we were young (40 years ago) almost no one had ever heard of little league elbow. We did it to ourselves.

That's part of it. But I hew to the Tom House maxim about how kids today pitch too much but don't throw enough. And he always says it's not just throwing a baseball but for kids to go throw a football, throw rocks, throw full-court basketball passes overhand, throw wiffle balls, and so on. The focus solely on baseball pitching prevents the kids from building up all the stabilizing muscles that protect the elbow and shoulder. Plus, with all the instruction kids get today they learn how to max out their velo at a young age way before their bodies are ready to handle the stress.

There's also a general lack of athleticism among a lot of baseball players compared to the past. Too many focus solely on the skill part (ie- hitting, pitching, and fielding lessons) and not the athletic base required to excel.

I don't know how else to describe it, but I think there's an element of what I'd call "unintentional racism." Way too many white and Latino folks see black kids in football and basketball and think they'll struggle to compete in those sports when their kids are in HS or beyond so they focus on a sport where skills are at a premium and they think a lower level of athleticism is less of an impediment to success and getting to the next level. So they've gravitated to baseball and see their kid's success at the youth level where being really skilled can overcome a lack of athleticism (the reverse can be true too) but then those kids who play year-round and do nothing but baseball are the ones who end up with arm problems.
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docb said:

It is a product of playing baseball year round and way too many games. I know a lot will disagree because they think their kids have to do this to play in college, etc. But when we were young (40 years ago) almost no one had ever heard of little league elbow. We did it to ourselves.
LIke Tarpon said that's part of it. But a couple of other thoughts

1. There is no safe way to play three games in one day with two breaks. Thats 15-18 innings over 10 hours with two complete cool downs. Yet we(generically speaking) set brackets up that way for some teams. It should never happen and one reason we avoid tournaments with more than 8 teams when possible. It is also why we play in a 16 game four weekend league with only two games a day.

2. Ignorance. A lot of parents and some coaches simply are not aware of the risk and because of that want their son playing every or just about every inning. That is a big mistake. We limit our boys innings, depending on the kid and how much he pitches. Because we carry 13 now on 13u we will be able to sit kids for entire games when needed. I will not allow my son to play in more than three games in a weekend. True about a lot of our boys.

3. Playing in the field after pitching. If a kid throws more than maybe 35 pitches or two innings he should be done for the day. If absolutely necessary he could maybe finish that game at a different position and sit out the next. But we routinely see kids throw more than that and go play SS or CF. That is insane.

4. Pitching sore- See above. But rarely should a kid pitch back to back days and should never pitch twice in one day.

5. Bad priorities- that speaks for itself and needs no further discussion or it will attract the wrong kind of conversation.

6. Multiple sports. Two major overuse injuries I am aware of from last season happened because the kid played something else in the morning and pitched that night. One played basketball in the morning and pitched and missed nine months with a back(he was just cleared 12/01 to play sports and is doing great in basketball) and another who threw shotput in the morning, pitched that night, and fractured a growth plate in his shoulder. He played football but is still struggling to throw a baseball.


Trust me. It is all fun and games until it happens to your own son. I hope at least someone reads this and does the right thing for either their son or their team.
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Yep. 5 out of 6 of your thoughts are too much baseball. And don't forget the number of throws being made at practice.
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And warming up between innings. And warming up the RF of LF when you are on the bench. And the dodgeball in PE they didn't tell you about.

And whiffleball. Ugh. Dont get me started on the whiffleball.
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agsalaska said:

And warming up between innings. And warming up the RF of LF when you are on the bench. And the dodgeball in PE they didn't tell you about.

And whiffleball. Ugh. Dont get me started on the whiffleball.

Eh, from what I can find, all that throwing isn't the issue. It's specifically pitching.

I know when I was a kid we didn't play baseball year-round but we played catch literally every day whether it was football or baseball. And during baseball season we had games twice a week and practiced 2-3 times a week too but as soon as we'd get home from school we'd go play catch before going to baseball practice.

With the other sports causing injuries, I think in the case of pitching it's kids having dead legs so they try to make up for it with their arm and over-exert the arm.

We were throwing a ball of some kind for hours virtually every day all year long but not pitching off a mound.
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It makes a huge difference when they are sore and are being overused.
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Well sure, if a kid says their arm is sore and they keep throwing it's a different story.
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The worst is a kid that's pitched a game and then they expect him to play catcher. Seen that damage an arm before. Crazy I never remember any kid having a hurt arm back when I played baseball. But we never ever had 3 games in one day back then. Not even in All Star type tournaments. It's evolved into a sport set up for injuries.
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Ok. So wanting to lean on others who have gone through this. We will be moving to another part of Texas soon. This means that for the first time in 4 years we're going to go in blind to a youth ball scene.

9 yo

How do you even go about finding a team? How do you vet them to help make sure it's a good fit for everything else other than on the field competitiveness?

Do you find a trainer to start lessons with and get his name out? Do you go try out with every team? Do you basically sit out spring and simply try to guest play with all the teams? Help!!
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Sign up for the local youth league. There will still be some select level players playing rec ball. And the coaches will see him there.

You have mostly missed tryout season.

What city?
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Dripping Springs area
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