IMO you should never trade for what a player was, you trade for what they are right now. And right now, Alonso is a .235 hitter with a .465 slug.

Same logic applies to Bergman IMO. Could they turn it around and become the players they were before? Sure. But Alonso in particular concerns me (he only hit .217 last season so it's not like this is a one year fluke). If you could get either of them for virtually nothing, then it's worth the gamble. Trading away players like Duran and Tavares for either of them is a waste of resources and reeks of desperation.

For the record, I wouldn't trade Taveras or Duran for anything right now.

If we are in the hunt at the deadline and starting pitchers are getting healthy, I use some of the expiring starting pitcher depth (Heaney, Lorenzen, Urena) to acquire someone's expiring right hand power bat.

And to clarify, I am not trading all of them. Using those guys as examples of where I am looking if I am considering trading anything from the MLB roster.

I wouldn't mind trading anyone from that crop of guys, but it would have to be for a controllable everyday MLB player, ie. Luis Robert Jr. or the like, but even that would be incredibly risky due to his injury history. It's the balancing act between how much do you value high level bench options like Duran and Smith (when Jung gets back), and if you could upgrade to find a more everyday player to fill your gaps and future outlook.

I don't want to take things for granted with Bochy (69), but he likely only has a few more years left to coach.

I don't see CY accepting a down year without giving him everything he needs to win this year and next.

Most WS Titles:
T1) Joe McCarthy (7): NYY - '32, '36-39, '41, '43
T1) Casey Stengel (7): NYY - '49-53, '56, '58
_3) Connie Mack (5): A's - 1910-11, '13, 1929-30
T4) Bruce Bochy (4): Giants - '10, '12, '14, Rangers '23
T4) Walter Alston (4): NYY - '55, '59, '63, '65
T4) Joe Torre (4): NYY - '96, '98-00

I believe Bochy became the 1st to win the WS with both an NL and AL team.

If healthy, a playoff rotation of: Eovaldi, deGrom, Scherzer, and Gray would be phenomenal.
Any offensive weakness that can be improved, I'm in.

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I believe Bochy became the 1st to win the WS with both an NL and AL team.

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Not sure if someone else did it as well, but Sparky Anderson won with both the Reds and Tigers.


ETA: But I agree that Bochy has a limited shelf-life. Hopefully he sticks around for several more seasons though...

I don't see them accepting a down year and I don't see them doing anything in an effort to get Bochy another ring.

The starting pitching when healthy is loaded. And it will get healthy at some point. That pushes some guys that are currently starting to long relief roles, which shores up the sixth and seventh inning problems.

Jung will be back and Carter or Langford will be in LF. Every other position is the returning starter from the WS team. If you read CY or Bochy's comments, they point that out pretty often.

They might miss the playoffs, but they aren't going to make wholesale changes because of it. Their goal is to stay within striking distance for now, get healthy and see where they are at the end of July. If they're closer than they are today, it means the team is playing better and they can go on a run. If they're further back, there won't be any need to add pieces for this year. They can sell off some expiring contracts and be ready to go for 2025.

Semien was a guest on Mookie's podcast yesterday. Pretty good stuff and some nice insight. Its on YouTube if anyone is interested.

Semien mentions A&M a few times during the podcast.

Seager scratched today.

That's probably not great

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Semien mentions A&M a few times during the podcast.

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What did he say??

El Bombi hit

Good start. It's nice seeing the other pitcher have to work the 1st inning.

Why the frick would you do that?

Langford with a few RBIs in this game.

Wyatt living right tonight

Any word on Seager?

Can't watch but see they're left loaded. Just can't blow it open

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Can't watch but see they're left loaded. Just can't blow it open

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Blew our chance trying to pull a double steal with a pitcher struggling to locate. Semien thrown out at 3rd. Cost us at least a run.

Up 3-0. I am not complaining.

Lorenzen just knows how to pitch. Reminds me of Cobra

it still blows my mind that the Dodgers' best option at short is Mookie Betts

That stinks. However, I understand them trying to push the issue on the bases now.

We needed to be more aggressive on the base path and recently we've done that. Gonna get caught here and there.

Beginning to worry about Heim. He's been pretty awful, sporting a 79 ops+ heading into tonight. I didn't think he would replicate last season but man, it's been a pretty steep drop.

White Sox ahead of mariners 2-1 in the top of the 9th.

Cross your fingers for the crappy team from Chicago

Mariners are due for a one run loss. Their luck this season has been pretty incredible.

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Mariners are due for a one run loss. Their luck this season has been pretty incredible.

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Mariners offense doesn't scare me at all. That's the main reason I doubt they can pull away from us.

Lorenzen is a machine. What a signing.

Lorenzen on cruise control.

And the Mariners tie it in the 9th. Unreal.

Son of a *****.

Julio Rodriguez goes deep and it's tied. Mariners probably going to win now.

Mariners winning back to back extra inning games would suck.

But oh well, hang on and win the series over the Dodgers and things are right again in Rangerland.