nobody was at those lame duck Chris Chandler games in the Dome in 96

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JohnnyTexAg1995 said:

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Prosperdick said:

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All I do is Nguyen said:

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How anyone cannot be romantic about baseball is beyond me

The Moneyball music hits different on this one. 💚🥺 pic.twitter.com/ucOBSBgH78

— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) September 26, 2024

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I feel for their fans...kinda reminds me of when Bud Adams moved the Oilers to Tennessee.

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the oilers were beloved in Houston and packed the Astrodome. The As averaged 11,000 fans per game this year which is last place in MLB by far. Even the CWS averaged 6k more fans a game and they lost 120+ games. The Oakland fans quit on their team and are showing love now because it's over.

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Fair point, I said "reminded me" of that situation. However, I bet if Bud let the team go like the A's they wouldn't pack the Dome every Sunday. We certainly weren't packing the Juice Box when the team was tanking.

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I've looked before, Houston was dead last in home attendance their last year too. Mostly getting ~20k into a 62k seat dome. Nobody wants to support an owner actively working against you/your home.

And the A's divorce has been even longer/messier than the Oilers was. Go back before Fisher started toying with moving and they had good-decent teams and their attendance was right there with the rest of the mlb in the mid 20s.

Twins had bases loaded and no outs and only got 1 run to tie it up

I'm sure it was hilarious

I went to 5 games that year and you could sit anywhere because the dome was a ghost town.

Twins 2-15 risp. Ouch

if the Twins lose...

it takes a lot of pressure off the Tigers and Royals

both could have their aces ready for wildcard game 1

JohnnyTexAg1995 said:

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Prosperdick said:

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All I do is Nguyen said:

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How anyone cannot be romantic about baseball is beyond me

The Moneyball music hits different on this one. 💚🥺 pic.twitter.com/ucOBSBgH78

— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) September 26, 2024

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I feel for their fans...kinda reminds me of when Bud Adams moved the Oilers to Tennessee.

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the oilers were beloved in Houston and packed the Astrodome. The As averaged 11,000 fans per game this year which is last place in MLB by far. Even the CWS averaged 6k more fans a game and they lost 120+ games. The Oakland fans quit on their team and are showing love now because it's over.

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I know money drives where players end up, but Alex might want to look at where the money took George and Carlos. It took them to teams that are done by the time October rolled around. Breggy is about to play in his 8th straight playoffs. Money can't buy that.

Wow the twins are bad at bunting too

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I know money drives where players end up, but Alex might want to look at where the money took George and Carlos. It took them to teams that are done by the time October rolled around. Breggy is about to play in his 8th straight playoffs. Money can't buy that.

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Yeah but the union guys and his agent will be in his ear telling him that if he takes less than "he is worth" to stay in Houston, he hurts other guys who need the money because his contract will be used to benchmark others. He has the option to tell his agent "work out the best deal you can get with Houston" instead of opening himself up to the free agent market, but I can't see that happening.

Who would y'all rather play? Tigers or Royals

MIN (82-77) loses 8-6 to MIA
KC (85-74) & DET (85-74) have magic no. of 1 to clinch playoff berth
Fri-Sun: KC at ATL, CWS at DET, BAL at MIN
Wild Card series:
DET-HOU if KC & DET tied
KC-HOU if 3-team tie
DET-HOU if 4-team tie including SEA (82-77)
No scenario for MIN-HOU

— Adam Wexler (@AdamJWexler) September 27, 2024

more than likely the Astros will face the 1-2-3 of either team

the Royals-Braves are going to be rained out tomorrow -- right?

so if Baltimore beats the Twins...KC clinches before the series vs. Atlanta starts

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Mathguy64 said:

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I know money drives where players end up, but Alex might want to look at where the money took George and Carlos. It took them to teams that are done by the time October rolled around. Breggy is about to play in his 8th straight playoffs. Money can't buy that.

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Yeah but the union guys and his agent will be in his ear telling him that if he takes less than "he is worth" to stay in Houston, he hurts other guys who need the money because his contract will be used to benchmark others. He has the option to tell his agent "work out the best deal you can get with Houston" instead of opening himself up to the free agent market, but I can't see that happening.

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I've said that in this thread before and i also tell my kids that money doesn't make everything better. It's nice, but at a certain point, more isn't better.

Someone should point out Correa and springer and say they got paid more, but the astros paid you more in experiences. What's the price on winning a WS? How much is that worth to a player vs. just passing 162 games?

Isn't that the rage now? Spending money on experiences vs. stuff?

~egon

Could Arizona be a possibility for Bregman?

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Could Arizona be a possibility for Bregman?

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One of the front runners

If Bregman is going to go to Arizona, would Suarez be a "cheaper" option for us at least for next year?

It's just a shame that these guys choose money over loyalty . I mean after all, Breggy is already set for life if he never played another inning. The difference between what the Astros can pay him and what the high bidder offers won't make a hill of beans to him personally. Maybe it impacts his great great grand children.

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If Bregman is going to go to Arizona, would Suarez be a "cheaper" option for us at least for next year?

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No reason for AZ not to keep Suarez. The club option is very reasonable.

redline248 said:

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Could Arizona be a possibility for Bregman?

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I was told last year by someone very, very familiar with him that Arizona was one of, if not the most preferred destination for him.

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superaggie73 said:

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If Bregman is going to go to Arizona, would Suarez be a "cheaper" option for us at least for next year?

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No reason for AZ not to keep Suarez. The club option is very reasonable.

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That's what I thought as well making me think Arizona is not an option for Bregman

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It's just a shame that these guys choose money over loyalty . I mean after all, Breggy is already set for life if he never played another inning. The difference between what the Astros can pay him and what the high bidder offers won't make a hill of beans to him personally. Maybe it impacts his great great grand children.

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Was just looking at his wiki and thought this was interesting:

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in his Bar Mitzvah speech he said: "I want to be a professional athlete who plays for the love of the game, never quits trying to give my best, and is a good role model for all of the kids who look up to baseball players."

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Of course Verlander said something similar about the birth of his daughter and how it showed him the game in a whole new light and that he could appreciate it more now...then he took a bag to play for the Mets, was miserable and came back to the good guys.

I'd love to know what Correa and Springer tell Breggy about their decisions. Knowing how ultra competitive George is he can't be happy in Toronto never making the playoffs and I bet Correa feels the same way (although I doubt he admits it out loud).

Regardless though, bottom line their egos drive their decisions so they almost always go for the biggest bag. Wish Breggy good luck and hope he's as miserable as Carlos and George in a few years.

I think you have to pay either Bregman or Tucker. You can't let both walk if you hope to keep the window open

The thought for us as fans was always
"Well they aren't extending Cole so they can extend springer"
"Well they aren't extending springer so they can extend Correa"
"Well they aren't extending Correa so they can extend Bregman"
"Well they might not extend Bregman so they can pay Tucker"

Eventually you have to extend somebody to the big deal. Bregman and Tucker to me are better candidates than springer and Correa because of age, health, and there is no sure thing coming up behind them in the minors. They were smart in not extending Springer and Correa. Springer was just at the age where players decline although his happened more rapidly than we imagined. Correa just can't stay healthy and we saw that here in Houston. He made his money's worth for us in October but the twins aren't good enough to see that through.

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redline248 said:

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Could Arizona be a possibility for Bregman?

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I was told last year by someone very, very familiar with him that Arizona was one of, if not the most preferred destination for him.

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Is it because of the close(ish) proximity to Albuquerque or is it something about the organization that he likes?

They want to be closer to his family. At least that's what I was told

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I think you have to pay either Bregman or Tucker. You can't let both walk if you hope to keep the window open

The thought for us as fans was always
"Well they aren't extending Cole so they can extend springer"
"Well they aren't extending springer so they can extend Correa"
"Well they aren't extending Correa so they can extend Bregman"
"Well they might not extend Bregman so they can pay Tucker"

Eventually you have to extend somebody to the big deal. Bregman and Tucker to me are better candidates than springer and Correa because of age, health, and there is no sure thing coming up behind them in the minors. They were smart in not extending Springer and Correa. Springer was just at the age where players decline although his happened more rapidly than we imagined. Correa just can't stay healthy and we saw that here in Houston. He made his money's worth for us in October but the twins aren't good enough to see that through.

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If we could only keep one Tucker is the obvious play IMO. I love Breggy and I'll miss his wizardry at 3rd but his streaky nature and propensity to pop-up I certainly won't miss.

He does bring a ton of intangibles with how he works with pitchers but Tucker was on his way to an MVP season and a trio of Yordan/Altuve/Tucker + our pitching should keep the window open for a few more years.

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They want to be closer to his family. At least that's what I was told

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Well I can't fault him for that at all...if that's where he wants to be take that money and use it to help wrap up Tucker long-term.