f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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Don't think there's a chance he'll clear waivers. Dude still throws 95. Wild as he'll, but someone will throw out league minimum for him.

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If they claim him do they pick up the bill?

Astros rotation vs. Rays:

Friday: Kikuchi
Saturday: Blanco
Sunday: Arrighetti

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) July 31, 2024

Is that so? I don't remember, honestly. If so, then I suppose the move makes more sense. My fault.

Yes. And if he's claimed that team has to make a spot for him so someone else is getting DFA'd or optioned.

Could imagine a team doing that to make room Montero?

Deadline Winners & Losers

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Winners

• Teams Trading Pitchers

It was a good year to have an effective pitcher on the trade block. With plenty of teams looking for rotation and bullpen help and the biggest names mostly not getting moved, the teams who dealt effective pitching all did fairly well with one notable exception that we'll get to later. I initially thought Houston's trade of Jake Bloss, Joey Loperfido, and Will Wagner for Yusei Kikuchi was an outlier of a haul. I still do, but the trades that came afterward make it look more like an overpay than a complete highway robbery, because good starters were in short supply, and demand was as high as ever.

• St. Louis Cardinals

• Pittsburgh Pirates

• New York Mets

Losers

• Chicago White Sox
• Tampa Bay Rays
• Pitching-Needy Contenders

Too Soon To Tell

• Improving Contenders

The Astros and Padres made some aggressive trades, sending out top-of-market returns for the players they got back. The industry consensus is that both teams gave up too much for the necessary improvements they were making. I agree with that consensus. But I'm also realistic enough to know that I'm not an all-knowing arbiter of prospect talent, and none of the players going out are sure things. They're mostly mid-round draft picks who have seen their value climb meaningfully in recent years or speculative pitchers who haven't yet gotten results.

Meanwhile, the teams went out and got their targets to improve their rosters in the way they wanted. They did so despite the context of a very fallow trade deadline. I don't think I would have done what either team did, but I don't think either made obviously awful moves. They each went in the right direction, and the question is just how aggressive they had to be in doing so. I'll take that over inaction despite a clear need for improvement any day.

The Mariners are in a slightly different boat, because I'm pretty sure their moves were all good. I'm just not sure whether they were enough. I was hoping for a slightly bigger swing on the offensive side after they got Arozarena, but it's not like they missed out on a ton of good hitters who got traded. I wish they'd done more, but I like what they did do, so that gives them a similar grade.

• Retools

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Farmer1906 said:

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Astros rotation vs. Rays:

Friday: Kikuchi
Saturday: Blanco
Sunday: Arrighetti

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) July 31, 2024

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So Blanco, Arrighetti, and Keke Coutee will all be pitching on 7 days rest this weekend

Was it the reds that came in and swept us at home around this time last year ? Might have been earlier in July

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Was it the reds that came in and swept us at home around this time last year ? Might have been earlier in July

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It was before the All Star Break last year.

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RED AG 98 said:

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Ummm, wow. I didn't see those coming. Guess they actively shopped Montero and no one took the bait.

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Another strike against Dana. Someone is gonna pick him up for free. Gotta find a way to offload him for something, even if you have to eat the majority of the contract.

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If they pick him up, don't they have to assume his current contract? If so, nobody is doing that without getting something else in return.

Yes

MLB actually has a pretty decent glossary of terms that explains transactions in understandable language

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/designate-for-assignment

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“The atmosphere I know it’s incredible here. Fans are very passionate and they get loud so I’m looking forward to that.”#Relentless

— Lorenzo (@lorenzodelgad0) July 31, 2024

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Nori Aoki is our first pitcher

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Was he a starter?

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Yes, he was our starting outfielder in 2017 before we traded him to Toronto.

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Ok, so not the 1st starting pitcher as the tweet says?

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Well, we've only had two Japenese players play for us and they were both outfielder. So, I think you can figure out with that information whether Kikuchi is the first japanese starting pitcher for us.

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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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Don't think there's a chance he'll clear waivers. Dude still throws 95. Wild as he'll, but someone will throw out league minimum for him.

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If they claim him do they pick up the bill?

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Right now, I think he has only been designated for assignment (DFA) which basically means we don't know what we're going to do with him, but he's not playing at the MLB level for us. I think we have 10 days to either release him or send him down to the minors.

If we release him, he's fair game for anyone and he will certainly sign with someone for the league minimum. We will have to pay out his contract minus whatever the other team pays him, which is almost always the league minimum.

If we send him down, he has to clear waivers, meaning other teams can take him, but they have to take his contact and put him on their MLB roster, too. If he clears waivers, he can then be sent to the minors. Since he has 5 years experience, though, he has the option to refuse to go to the minors. If he does refuse, we have to release him and pay out his contract.

Since no team is going to want his contact, and he will almost certainly refuse a minor league assignment, it's pretty much guaranteed that we are going to end up releasing him and eating his contact.

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Farmer1906 said:

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“The atmosphere I know it’s incredible here. Fans are very passionate and they get loud so I’m looking forward to that.”#Relentless

— Lorenzo (@lorenzodelgad0) July 31, 2024

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Nori Aoki is our first pitcher

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Was he a starter?

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Yes, he was our starting outfielder in 2017 before we traded him to Toronto.

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Ok, so not the 1st starting pitcher as the tweet says?

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Well, we've only had two Japenese players play for us and they were both outfielder. So, I think you can figure out with that information whether Kikuchi is the first japanese starting pitcher for us.

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I invite you to re-read all the quoted posts to see who was actually confused by this matter.

Hint: it wasn't me

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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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Don't think there's a chance he'll clear waivers. Dude still throws 95. Wild as he'll, but someone will throw out league minimum for him.

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If they claim him do they pick up the bill?

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Right now, I think he has only been designated for assignment (DFA) which basically means we don't know what we're going to do with him, but he's not playing at the MLB level for us. I think we have 10 days to either release him or send him down to the minors.

If we release him, he's fair game for anyone and he will certainly sign with someone for the league minimum. We will have to pay out his contract minus whatever the other team pays him, which is almost always the league minimum.

If we send him down, he has to clear waivers, meaning other teams can take him, but they have to take his contact and put him on their MLB roster, too. If he clears waivers, he can then be sent to the minors. Since he has 5 years experience, though, he has the option to refuse to go to the minors. If he does refuse, we have to release him and pay out his contract.

Since no team is going to want his contact, and he will almost certainly refuse a minor league assignment, it's pretty much guaranteed that we are going to end up releasing him and eating his contact.

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Per the Rome tweet posted previously: "The Astros approached Rafael Montero about accepting an assignment to the minor leagues, Dana Brown said. Brown said Montero was receptive to the idea, but needs to speak with his family and agent first."

I can't imagine anybody wanting to pick him up and claim that contract. So it comes down to whether he has any pride or goes with the greed of his agent. If he has pride, he will take a minor league assignment, fix whatever was wrong, come back and prove he was worth the contract (hopefully). The agent probably wants him to get released and sign a new contract because presumably the agent will get a cut of that contract too.

Blummer call in sick today?

Wonder who's taking Sparkys place on the radio.

all right, need something from the .600 OPS guys and low .700 guys in the order tonight

perhaps a double or walk twice or something other than an infield single

Esch

Framber in the all whites?

For Framber's sake, I hope the defense shows up tonight.

His thing now seems to be the orange-billed hat.

See ya! Mans only lasted 3 pitches.

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Blummer call in sick today?

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Crane not like his comments on the trade yesterday? That would be very Crane-like

That was quick.