***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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We could have done our 12 and 22 ranked prospect for him…
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Deals are happening. Come on, Dana. Find a couple of pitchers.
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Houston was in on Arozarena. Not the Tampa player they want the most, but someone who has come up often over the last 6-7 months.
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tjack16 said:

We could have done our 12 and 22 ranked prospect for him…
Seattle's farm is much deeper than ours so doubtful. Regardless, Randy is just an ok player. Perfect fit for the team that already K's way too much.
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bearkatag15 said:



In that case maybe we can get efflin, parades, and Fairbanks for Montero and Forrest Whitley
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Remember, prospects are viewed much differently organization to organization.
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I really hope Crane isn't handcuffing Dana. I really really hope he isn't.
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texasaggie2015 said:

I really hope Crane isn't handcuffing Dana. I really really hope he isn't.

Some people never learn from their past mistakes.
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texasaggie2015 said:

I really hope Crane isn't handcuffing Dana. I really really hope he isn't.
It would really be something for the Astros to go get Snell after Reggie Jackson talked so loudly about how he wasn't worth all that money. I really hope they don't go that way.
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texasaggie2015 said:

I really hope Crane isn't handcuffing Dana. I really really hope he isn't.


Kinda looking like that's what's up. He's a business guy, and he's had a couple really bad black eyes recently (looking at you, Capt. Lou Abreu, and Montego) That's almost $100M for those two. Thanks, Baggie… (Misspelled to dodge TexAgs)
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by now I hope that the former players cabal has been dissolved
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Bagwell had absolutely nothing to do with any of those things. No idea where that narrative came from haha
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texasaggie2015 said:

Remember, prospects are viewed much differently organization to organization.
This too. I think Smith is a little underrated and is likely headed up rankings. Good defensive CF putting up a .400 OBP as a 19 year old in A ball.

This trade impacts us because the Rays needed a CF prospect and we have some to trade. Our fit with them may not be as clear now.
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Why wouldn't we want Snell?

Is he worth all the money SF is paying him? No
Is he good enough to be an ace on a contending staff? No

But

Is he worth it if SF covers a good portion of his salary and we get him on discount? Yes
Is he good enough to slot in as a #3/4 on this team? Yeah. A playoff rotation of Brown, Framber, JV, and Snell is pretty damn salty.

All depends on how much they cover of the salary but it could work out in our favor just like acquiring JV did last year. Avoid the huge contract in FA but circle back and get him on SF's dime.

I would appreciate Farmer chiming in on Snell because I do see his ERA is bloated at 5+ but his FIP is 3.94 so I'm guessing that indicates he's been quite unlucky.
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I wouldn't mind it if SF covers a good portion of his salary and we didn't give up any big prospects. Would we inherit his $30MM player option? I sure as hell wouldn't sign up for that.
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Bullpen help?
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I think our CF trade options are MLB ready, so might mean we have a bargaining chip now.
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MaxPower said:

Bullpen help Trade bait?

FIFY
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No one is giving you anything with his injury history and no MLB skins right now. Better off bringing him up, hoping he gets hot out of the pen this year and trading him in the offseason.
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Yeah I don't expect him to be the centerpiece of any trade but more like a pot sweetener lotto ticket to get a deal over the finish line.

It's more of just me giving up any hope he's going to be a successful big leaguer and hoping we can make him someone else's pipe dream.
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Ag_07 said:

Yeah I don't expect him to be the centerpiece of any trade but more like a pot sweetener lotto ticket to get a deal over the finish line.

It's more of just me giving up any hope he's going to be a successful big leaguer and hoping we can make him someone else's pipe dream.
I'm almost the opposite. We waited this long, might as well bring him up and see what happens. Most likely his arm falls off like the Black Knight in Monty Python but it was worth a try.
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Ag_07 said:

Why wouldn't we want Snell?

Is he worth all the money SF is paying him? No
Is he good enough to be an ace on a contending staff? No

But

Is he worth it if SF covers a good portion of his salary and we get him on discount? Yes
Is he good enough to slot in as a #3/4 on this team? Yeah. A playoff rotation of Brown, Framber, JV, and Snell is pretty damn salty.

All depends on how much they cover of the salary but it could work out in our favor just like acquiring JV did last year. Avoid the huge contract in FA but circle back and get him on SF's dime.

I would appreciate Farmer chiming in on Snell because I do see his ERA is bloated at 5+ but his FIP is 3.94 so I'm guessing that indicates he's been quite unlucky.
I think most of this could be attributed to him not having a proper spring training and sucking right off the bat.

See how he's gotten better each month. He's been pretty damn elite in July even with a lowered K%.



Here is the best case scenario for Snell. He pitches his dick off this year, doesn't pick up the player option, and hits FA. I don't want to pay him 39 M next year, be in the lux tax again, and have no room for anyone else.
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Yeah I didn't realize he had that player option next year. That would be tough to swallow.
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Farmer1906 said:




Here is the best case scenario for Snell. He pitches his dick off this year, doesn't pick up the player option, and hits FA. I don't want to pay him 39 M next year, be in the lux tax again, and have no room for anyone else.
Not sure this is fully true with his bonus.... 17 M deferred to 2026, nontransferable. Does that mean he's only making ~6 M this year? If that is the case he's a lot more attractive.
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Seattle adding multiple good hitters makes me nervous.



If they get 1 or 2 of Jazz, LuBob, Belli, Rooker, Vladdy, Yandy, or Bo to go with Randy then I'm going to get worried. I feel like we'll need to answer in a big way.
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Farmer and I live nearby. We'll go win the HR Derby and rep this board.
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I love when places are "The Woodlands" but actually Oak Ridge, Spring, Conroe, Magnolia, etc.

Looks neat. It's right near DBat & Scrapyard so probably a smart location. I wish they had facilities like this when I was growing up. I take my daughter them all the time for lessons, camps, practice, etc.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Farmer and I live nearby. We'll go win the HR Derby and rep this board.
I would, but I am having a kids bday party. Feel free to come by and use the 20' water slide in the driveway.
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It's Seattle...They'll find a way to fck it up
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AggiEE said:

Aroidzaplenty aka Mr chicken and rice doesn't seem to be doing as hot this year

Still an improvement for the mariners but doubtful it moves the needle that much unless he gets hot
78 HR in the last 4 seasons for Mr. Chicken & Rice doesn't seem special to me at all.
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Arozarena has been red hot since he broke out of his bad start. Make no mistake, it's a big addition for the M's.
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Seattle's issue is they are a high K and low BA team.

So they traded for a guy hitting .211 and with 101 K in 350 AB. I'm not sure that fixes them.
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Yup. He's been a consistent 120-130 wRC+ type. In order to get there this year he's going to need to play the rest of the way 140+. I wouldn't be shocked in the least if he does it.
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If they add one more solid bat, it's time to take them very seriously. It's going to be really interesting the rest of the way.

Let's see what we do to answer.
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