***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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When does that ump scorecard come out.
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Usually around noon
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Breggy Popup said:

The defense should play it out. Just like batters should hustle to first because you never know.

I don't think umpires give up on the play. I think runners losing the bag after contact happens far less than you'd imagine. But, here is a real life example of your hypothetical.



Happened to Trey Turner in 2018 on a Bryce Harper walk also but I cannot find a video of it.



This is a great example of what could happen with the defense playing it out. My problem with it is that he doesn't come off the bag if not for the SS trying to tag him and move him out of the way, while his path to 2B should be unencumbered.

For example, you couldn't block the hitter from advancing to 1B with the hopes that he goes around you (into the baseline) and then you tag him.

I think umps made right call according to the rules in that MSU game you linked, but maybe MLB / NCAA should take a close look at that rule..?
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Mose Schrute said:

Breggy Popup said:

The defense should play it out. Just like batters should hustle to first because you never know.

I don't think umpires give up on the play. I think runners losing the bag after contact happens far less than you'd imagine. But, here is a real life example of your hypothetical.



Happened to Trey Turner in 2018 on a Bryce Harper walk also but I cannot find a video of it.



This is a great example of what could happen with the defense playing it out. My problem with it is that he doesn't come off the bag if not for the SS trying to tag him and move him out of the way, while his path to 2B should be unencumbered.

For example, you couldn't block the hitter from advancing to 1B with the hopes that he goes around you (into the baseline) and then you tag him.

I think umps made right call according to the rules in that MSU game you linked, but maybe MLB / NCAA should take a close look at that rule..?


Disagree. Shortstop did not block the bag and not the same as 1B blocking bag on a walk because you don't have time to wait for the ball call and know it's a walk before you defend the steal. He didn't cause him to come off the bag.
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Mose Schrute said:

Breggy Popup said:

The defense should play it out. Just like batters should hustle to first because you never know.

I don't think umpires give up on the play. I think runners losing the bag after contact happens far less than you'd imagine. But, here is a real life example of your hypothetical.



Happened to Trey Turner in 2018 on a Bryce Harper walk also but I cannot find a video of it.



This is a great example of what could happen with the defense playing it out. My problem with it is that he doesn't come off the bag if not for the SS trying to tag him and move him out of the way, while his path to 2B should be unencumbered.

For example, you couldn't block the hitter from advancing to 1B with the hopes that he goes around you (into the baseline) and then you tag him.

I think umps made right call according to the rules in that MSU game you linked, but maybe MLB / NCAA should take a close look at that rule..?
I've rambled on this before, but this reminds me of the greatest prep HS baseball and softball coaches I knew as a writer who would drill mental discipline into their teams so hard that they knew precisely what to look for in situations like that - like it was ingrained into them about what you when someone's off the bag, when the pitcher looks away from you, when the OF doesn't hustle to pick up a single, etc. Obviously, professionals are not as inclined to make that many mistakes, but there are at least 1-2 instances a game where guys are specifically not hustling and you can get over on them if you're reallly focused.
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Following the Marwin Gonzalez path
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Yeah, that's an insurance policy in case of a nuclear meltdown.

He only played 12 games for the A's but was slashing a Captain Lou like .103/.133/.103. There is absolutely no place for him in the lineup unless you consider him an upgrade over Kessinger. And we all know how many ABs Grae is getting.
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Astros are tied with the Mariners in the all important loss column. Seattle has played two games more than the Stros. Seattle might blow another huge division lead like they did last year so how long would they keep Servais at the helm if that happens?
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EastCoastAgNc said:



Following the Marwin Gonzalez path


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BCEDAg said:

Astros are tied with the Mariners in the all important loss column. Seattle has played two games more than the Stros. Seattle might blow another huge division lead like they did last year so how long would they keep Servais at the helm if that happens?


I hope they keep him there forever

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I'll take Aledmys over Grae all day and twice on Sunday.
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BadAggie said:

EastCoastAgNc said:



Following the Marwin Gonzalez path

I was hoping they would sign Aleydmas - a fresh start with old friends and a rejuvenated playoff contending team should reenergize him.


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Ag_07 said:

I'll take Aledmys over Grae all day and twice on Sunday.

Grae does nothing other than play in blowouts. When carantini comes back, that should be the end of grae's time and they should carry 3 catchers. Salazar has proven he's capable of good at bats
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BadAggie said:

BCEDAg said:

Astros are tied with the Mariners in the all important loss column. Seattle has played two games more than the Stros. Seattle might blow another huge division lead like they did last year so how long would they keep Servais at the helm if that happens?


I hope they keep him there forever


Exactly, they might mess around and hire an actually competent manager.
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Prosperdick said:

BadAggie said:

BCEDAg said:

Astros are tied with the Mariners in the all important loss column. Seattle has played two games more than the Stros. Seattle might blow another huge division lead like they did last year so how long would they keep Servais at the helm if that happens?


I hope they keep him there forever


Exactly, they might mess around and hire an actually competent manager.

Dipoto's 54% comments last year were pretty telling about their organizational philosophy
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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What are the seven ways a batter can make it safely to first base?
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BadAggie said:

What are the seven ways a batter can make it safely to first base?
Hit, error, walk, CI, dropped third strike, FC, HPB.

What do I win?
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Hit
BB
HBP
FC
RE
K, WP/PB
CI
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BadAggie said:

What are the seven ways a batter can make it safely to first base?

Hit
Walk
Hbp
Catchers interference
Error
Fielders choice
First on wild pitch strike three swinging
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Mathguy64 said:

BadAggie said:

What are the seven ways a batter can make it safely to first base?
Hit, error, walk, CI, dropped third strike, FC, HPB.

What do I win?

The bluest star there ever was.
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EastCoastAgNc said:



'I;m just here so I don't get fined.'
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BadAggie said:

Mathguy64 said:

BadAggie said:

What are the seven ways a batter can make it safely to first base?
Hit, error, walk, CI, dropped third strike, FC, HPB.

What do I win?

The bluest star there ever was.


I was expecting bouncing Dillion Harper tatas.
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The only thing Kessinger offers over Aledmys is he's cheap, right?
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Random thought, I wonder how many times pitchers face off who both have last name's that end in "i."
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Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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Prosperdick said:

Random thought, I wonder how many times pitchers face off who both have last name's that end in "i."


That's a Wally Holland stat right there
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linkdude said:


But don't forget, our farm system is dead last and sucks. One of the problems is the big league team keeps raiding it with instant impact hitters and pitchers. It's quite the conumdrum.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Amazing clip, somewhat spoiled by Lenny dykstra looking like a feral simian attempting to walk upright.
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