MaxPower said:I will always love Carlos.Farmer1906 said:
Love him after this weekend
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Love him after this weekend
I love him. I loved him at the Vasquez/Mancini deadline. The snakes are probably not selling after spending all that money when they can just slap a QO on him at the end of the year
— Ben (@midzee4) July 5, 2024
Farmer1906 said:I love him. I loved him at the Vasquez/Mancini deadline. The snakes are probably not selling after spending all that money when they can just slap a QO on him at the end of the year
— Ben (@midzee4) July 5, 2024
Maybe to put pressure on Toronto to agree to a deal for Vlad. If they think we are moving in a different direction they could be a little more agreeable to what we can offer
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
looking back at the Blue Jays...
their farm system must be terrible. So much of their team is free agents
80% of the starting rotation: Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios, and Kikuchi
1/2 of the starting lineup: George, IKF, Kiermaier, and Justin Turner
and Toronto is in last place with $230 MM payroll
their farm system must be terrible. So much of their team is free agents
80% of the starting rotation: Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios, and Kikuchi
1/2 of the starting lineup: George, IKF, Kiermaier, and Justin Turner
and Toronto is in last place with $230 MM payroll
45-42
2.5 games back of 3rd Wild Card spot
2.0 games back of Division lead
2.5 games back of 3rd Wild Card spot
2.0 games back of Division lead
I was able to confirm the Christian Walker rumors. Vlad is still the dream target, but they also have strong interest in Walker. I personally don't see Arizona selling, but they're keeping an eye on him.
Any indication they are looking at starting pitching as well?texasaggie2015 said:
I was able to confirm the Christian Walker rumors. Vlad is still the dream target, but they also have strong interest in Walker. I personally don't see Arizona selling, but they're keeping an eye on him.
Nothing has changed there
Good morning to everyone but Toronto, #ToTheCore fans and that handful of nonbelievers still clinging to a faint pulse in Seattle. Your days atop the AL West are numbered and your offense is atrocious. Embrace the inevitable. #Relentless🔥🤘🏼 pic.twitter.com/7Ze5DcsE7r
— Adam Clanton (@adamclanton) July 5, 2024
Gameday: Express 4, Space Cowboys 7 Final Score (07/04/2024) (milb.com)
Whitley, Whitcomb, Leon and Wagner all with good games last night.
They gave Whitcomb another start in LF which I find very interesting.
Whitley, Whitcomb, Leon and Wagner all with good games last night.
They gave Whitcomb another start in LF which I find very interesting.
Adam should have used the Team America f*** yeah song instead of that one.EastCoastAgNc said:Good morning to everyone but Toronto, #ToTheCore fans and that handful of nonbelievers still clinging to a faint pulse in Seattle. Your days atop the AL West are numbered and your offense is atrocious. Embrace the inevitable. #Relentless🔥🤘🏼 pic.twitter.com/7Ze5DcsE7r
— Adam Clanton (@adamclanton) July 5, 2024
Hulk Hogans entrance song is ALWAYS appropriate
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
has this guys major league clock started yet?linkdude said:
Can I start pounding the Whitley drum now that HB is pretty settled in? Wishful thinking says he could replace Montero on next year's roster...Forrest Whitley tossed another scoreless inning with 2 strikeouts. Up to 98.6 MPH. He has 15 K in 11 innings this season. #Astros
— Astros Future (@AstrosFuture) July 5, 2024
Forrest? He started a game earlier this season. And immediately got injured.Bag said:has this guys major league clock started yet?linkdude said:
Can I start pounding the Whitley drum now that HB is pretty settled in? Wishful thinking says he could replace Montero on next year's roster...Forrest Whitley tossed another scoreless inning with 2 strikeouts. Up to 98.6 MPH. He has 15 K in 11 innings this season. #Astros
— Astros Future (@AstrosFuture) July 5, 2024
I guess what I mean is when does his free agency clock start or when did it start, he has been around forever
Forrest hasn't made a big league start. He made a relief appearance in April:
Forrest Whitley 2024 Pitching Game Logs | Baseball-Reference.com
At this point, it's highly doubtful he will be a starter in the big leagues. They've been transitioning him into a reliever for a while now. Best case scenario for him is probably a 7th or 8th inning guy.
Forrest Whitley 2024 Pitching Game Logs | Baseball-Reference.com
At this point, it's highly doubtful he will be a starter in the big leagues. They've been transitioning him into a reliever for a while now. Best case scenario for him is probably a 7th or 8th inning guy.
Mr.Bond said:
Hulk Hogans entrance song is ALWAYS appropriate
Heenan: "I gotta say, Gorilla, this is probably my second favorite song of all time."
Monsoon: "I'm almost afraid to ask, but what's your favorite?"
Heenan: "All the rest are tied."
texasaggie2015 said:
Gameday: Express 4, Space Cowboys 7 Final Score (07/04/2024) (milb.com)
Whitley, Whitcomb, Leon and Wagner all with good games last night.
They gave Whitcomb another start in LF which I find very interesting.
That was a fun game. Gave up 3 runs early then got them back and more. Almost had another HR but the wind pushed it foul. Was a great shot near the 3rd base foul.
Fireworks after were nice as well. Leaving the parking lot? Ehh....
~egon
We (baseball fans) really just a bunch of nerds huh?
My MLB stat nerds out there can relate 😂 pic.twitter.com/20BRsO80BH
— Baseball’s Greatest Moments (@BBGreatMoments) July 4, 2024
Good move to make him a reliever. I'm not sure why you would think he doesn't have the goods to be a closer though.texasaggie2015 said:
Forrest hasn't made a big league start. He made a relief appearance in April:
Forrest Whitley 2024 Pitching Game Logs | Baseball-Reference.com
At this point, it's highly doubtful he will be a starter in the big leagues. They've been transitioning him into a reliever for a while now. Best case scenario for him is probably a 7th or 8th inning guy.
Not that it even matters. IMO the whole concept of closer is kind of stupid. But what makes you think he doesn't have the stuff to be "the" high leverage guy?
The main problem (well besides health) for Forrest is that his fastball is very flat. He can get away with it against AAA talent, but big leaguers will feast when he has to go to the heater.
They're working with him, but it's a work in progress.
They're working with him, but it's a work in progress.
I know that youre an insider or whatever but when he got called up the 790 guys were saying that both his fastball and sinker are elite in terms of both velocity and movement but that he has struggled with command and injuries.
Is the "flat" fastball something recent?
Is the "flat" fastball something recent?
Go the Hunter Brown / Chris Cortez route and change it to a 2 seam.
That's your problem right thereJPN06 said:
I know that youre an insider or whatever but when he got called up the 790 guys were saying that both his fastball and sinker are elite in terms of both velocity and movement but that he has struggled with command and injuries.
Is the "flat" fastball something recent?
But serious answer- that's what I've always been told is his problem in terms of stuff. He has good secondary stuff when he's locating, but the fastball from what I've been told is very flat.
Haha fair enoughtexasaggie2015 said:That's your problem right thereJPN06 said:
I know that youre an insider or whatever but when he got called up the 790 guys were saying that both his fastball and sinker are elite in terms of both velocity and movement but that he has struggled with command and injuries.
Is the "flat" fastball something recent?
But serious answer- that's what I've always been told is his problem in terms of stuff. He has good secondary stuff when he's locating, but the fastball from what I've been told is very flat.
Mathguy's guy and Nolan were something else 
While they were played together
— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) July 5, 2024
(far too short of a time):
J.R. Richard --> 17 starts, 1.90 ERA, 119 strikeouts
Nolan Ryan --> 18 starts, 3.32 ERA, 101 strikeouts https://t.co/5CeejHVGUW
JRR, man. He was a force!
In 2009, Sports Illustrated ran a 5-part "What If?" piece, writing fictional narratives about what might have happened in baseball if 5 different things in baseball had happened differently. The fifth and final one was "What if JR RIchard hadn't had a stroke?"
It is a bittersweet, heart-breaking read if you're a longtime Astro fan.
When Los Angeles Dodger manager Tommy Lasorda summoned someoneanyoneon his bench to pinch-hit against James Rodney Richard, strong men their eyes. Such temporary paralysis was common among Houston Astro opponents in the late '70s whenever the 6'8", 225-pound Richard pitched. Players called the affliction J. R.-thritis.
Joe Morgan has admitted fearing him. Dave Winfield still calls Richard the toughest pitcher he ever faced, Of stepping in against Richard's 98-mph fastball. Hill Buckner once said, "What you do depends on whether you value your life more than you value one at bat."
In midsummer of 1980 Richard was alone at the peak of his profession, a lock for the National League Cy Young Award, a starter in the All-Star Game, with 10 wins and a 1.89 ERA at midseason break, But on July 30, while working out at the Astrodome, he suffered a stroke and never pitched again in the major leagues.
Houston manager Bill Virdon called him "the best pitcher in baseball." And the best pitcher in baseball was, as Astro teammate Enos Cabell noted, "on his way to the Hall of Fame." Given what he already was, what J. R. Richard might have been seems limitless.
In 1979 J.R. Richard won 18 games, and he struck out 300 batters for the second time, something that no other National League righthander had ever done once. He also led the league with a 2.71 ERA. He was 29 years old.
In 1980 he won the Cy Young, as expected.
From 1981 to '85 the Houston Astros had a rotation that would have made the current Atlanta Brave starting pitchers look like slo-pitch softballers. The Astro staff consisted of Richard, a second banana by the name of Nolan Ryan, Don Sutton and a fourth starter who would win 221 games in his career, knuckleballer Joe Niekro. Houston mowed down opponents like a Toro.
In 1983 the Astros acquired a fifth starter named Mike Scott.
In 1986, in a timeless National League Championship Series, Houston beat the New York Mets. The Astros then dispatched the Boston Red Sox in what proved to be a surprisingly competitive Fall Classic. Richard the Lionhearted, 36 years old, started Games 1, 4 and 7 for Houston. Three Red Sox regulars missed those games with "flulike symptoms." (Alas, the aforementioned Buckner was not one of them.)
In 1988 J.R. Richard retired.
In 1989 Ryan was signed by the Texas Rangers and, with the shadow of Richard finally removed, at last received the national attention he deserved.
In 1993 J.R. Richard was elected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. He might have been the greatest pitcher ever.
It is a bittersweet, heart-breaking read if you're a longtime Astro fan.
When Los Angeles Dodger manager Tommy Lasorda summoned someoneanyoneon his bench to pinch-hit against James Rodney Richard, strong men their eyes. Such temporary paralysis was common among Houston Astro opponents in the late '70s whenever the 6'8", 225-pound Richard pitched. Players called the affliction J. R.-thritis.
Joe Morgan has admitted fearing him. Dave Winfield still calls Richard the toughest pitcher he ever faced, Of stepping in against Richard's 98-mph fastball. Hill Buckner once said, "What you do depends on whether you value your life more than you value one at bat."
In midsummer of 1980 Richard was alone at the peak of his profession, a lock for the National League Cy Young Award, a starter in the All-Star Game, with 10 wins and a 1.89 ERA at midseason break, But on July 30, while working out at the Astrodome, he suffered a stroke and never pitched again in the major leagues.
Houston manager Bill Virdon called him "the best pitcher in baseball." And the best pitcher in baseball was, as Astro teammate Enos Cabell noted, "on his way to the Hall of Fame." Given what he already was, what J. R. Richard might have been seems limitless.
In 1979 J.R. Richard won 18 games, and he struck out 300 batters for the second time, something that no other National League righthander had ever done once. He also led the league with a 2.71 ERA. He was 29 years old.
In 1980 he won the Cy Young, as expected.
From 1981 to '85 the Houston Astros had a rotation that would have made the current Atlanta Brave starting pitchers look like slo-pitch softballers. The Astro staff consisted of Richard, a second banana by the name of Nolan Ryan, Don Sutton and a fourth starter who would win 221 games in his career, knuckleballer Joe Niekro. Houston mowed down opponents like a Toro.
In 1983 the Astros acquired a fifth starter named Mike Scott.
In 1986, in a timeless National League Championship Series, Houston beat the New York Mets. The Astros then dispatched the Boston Red Sox in what proved to be a surprisingly competitive Fall Classic. Richard the Lionhearted, 36 years old, started Games 1, 4 and 7 for Houston. Three Red Sox regulars missed those games with "flulike symptoms." (Alas, the aforementioned Buckner was not one of them.)
In 1988 J.R. Richard retired.
In 1989 Ryan was signed by the Texas Rangers and, with the shadow of Richard finally removed, at last received the national attention he deserved.
In 1993 J.R. Richard was elected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. He might have been the greatest pitcher ever.
Life is better with a beagle
The Mariners have gone 35 consecutive games without scoring more than 3 runs.
— Statfax (@statfax) July 4, 2024
It is an MLB record pic.twitter.com/QwPnV2eTTF
I think they go way overboard and overpay for vlad out of desperation in an attempt to play keep away with us
In 1979, JRR started 38 games. He finished 19 of them. Let that sink in. Half of his starts that season were complete games. One was an 11 inning CG. He also threw an 11 inning no decision against Seaver late in the season. Seaver only managed 9 innings that day. JRR threw 11 and Joe Sambito threw the other 2 for the win.
Of course times were different. The team had 55 CGs that season and there were 913 thrown across the league. The league average was 35.
Justin Verlander has 26 CGs in his career. His most was 6 in a season.
Of course times were different. The team had 55 CGs that season and there were 913 thrown across the league. The league average was 35.
Justin Verlander has 26 CGs in his career. His most was 6 in a season.
Yordan leads the American League in intentional walks with 8
his career high for IBB is 9 in 2022
his career high for IBB is 9 in 2022
Seattle - one nice run somewhere in the season, regression to mean, constantly butthurt managerEastCoastAgNc said:The Mariners have gone 35 consecutive games without scoring more than 3 runs.
— Statfax (@statfax) July 4, 2024
It is an MLB record pic.twitter.com/QwPnV2eTTF
I think they go way overboard and overpay for vlad out of desperation in an attempt to play keep away with us
Texas - Cowboy's offseason starts soon!
Angels - expectations met
He'll break that before Tuck gets back. Without someone behind him like Tuck, even though Diaz has done really well, it's the smart move for opposing teams a lot of the time.
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