Farmer1906 said:
That's what you take out of that quote?
Hasn't Hader said that himself? It's why Musgrove said what he did.
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Hasn't Hader said that himself? It's why Musgrove said what he did.
Whether he said it or not, I don't see why it's hard to grasp that they don't want their closer throwing multiple innings this early in the season. Especially after we saw the effects of fatigue in our bullpen last year.
It's a marathon.
It's a marathon.
Pressley threw enough pitches in the 8th to where he was gonna be down today. Burning your closer for 2 innings, especially after the bullpen marathon they had on Monday, would be even dumber than the pinch hit decision. If folks want to complain about something from the 10th inning, complain about the wretched showing by the offense.texasaggie2015 said:
Whether he said it or not, I don't see why it's hard to grasp that they don't want their closer throwing multiple innings this early in the season. Especially after we saw the effects of fatigue in our bullpen last year.
It's a marathon.
on top of the injuries with our starting pitching right now. I agree. It shouldn't be hard for anyone to grasp.texasaggie2015 said:
Whether he said it or not, I don't see why it's hard to grasp that they don't want their closer throwing multiple innings this early in the season. Especially after we saw the effects of fatigue in our bullpen last year.
It's a marathon.
it's a marathon, but you're in position to win a game. If you hold them scoreless in the bottom of the 10th, you have Meyers on second with nobody out and Altuve and Alvarez coming up in the top of the 11th.texasaggie2015 said:
Whether he said it or not, I don't see why it's hard to grasp that they don't want their closer throwing multiple innings this early in the season. Especially after we saw the effects of fatigue in our bullpen last year.
It's a marathon.
Glad i finally watched Dune 2 last night instead of the game. Excited for Arrighetti's first start today.
To each his own- I trust the veteran guy who knows his body and the staff who manages him. If they don't want to overuse him early, I completely understand that decision.
Were we in a position to win the game? The win probability for us was 19% after the top of the 10th. Even with Hader, the odds were we were going to lose after we didn't score.
Statcast metrics say to keep an eye on these 10 players
[url=https://www.mlb.com/player/yainer-diaz-673237?season=2024&team=117][/url]
[url=https://www.mlb.com/player/yainer-diaz-673237?season=2024&team=117][/url]
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Yainer Diaz, Astros
Key stats: 38.5 percent chase rate, 17.9 percent whiff rate
Diaz already broke out with a strong rookie season in which he bopped 23 home runs, displayed elite pop time and arm strength and finished fifth in Rookie of the Year voting. The young catcher had two clear weaknesses, though: he finished in the first percentile in chase rate and 37th percentile in whiff rate. Diaz flipped that script early in '24 by shaving his chase rate by more than 5 percentage points and his whiff rate by nearly 10 percentage points. After striking out more than six times as often as he walked in '23, he only has twice as many strikeouts as walks this season while he is maintaining his contact quality.
Farmer1906 said:
Were we in a position to win the game? The win probability for us was 19% after the top of the 10th. Even with Hader, the odds were we were going to lose after we didn't score.
It's a little more complex than that.agdaddy04 said:Farmer1906 said:
That's what you take out of that quote?
Hasn't Hader said that himself? It's why Musgrove said what he did.
Hader was the multi-inning stopper for the Brewers early on. In 2019 he had 23 games where he threw >1 inning including an 8 out save in April. When arbitration came around, he was told that doesn't matter. The calculation is based on saves. Hader played baseball's game and said if you don't think what I am doing is valuable then I will do what you value ($$) which is 3 outs at the end of a game. In addition to that he did it to stay healthy so he could cash in his one shot once he hit FA after 7 years of team control. Now that he's gotten paid and paid long-term for a RP, there is no reason he can't be stretched when its appropriate. Even after his reluctance to throw multi-innings, he did it in the postseason in 2020 and 2022.
I didn't realize that, thanks.
IncredibleFarmer1906 said:Not quite. I think you chose "primary first", not "as first". That grabs Caratini's stats too.redline248 said:
So far, the 1B position for Houston is producing a blistering 18 wRC+. Surprisingly, that isn't last. That distinction belongs to the Reds, who sport a 6 at the position.
We're dead ass last in production from 1B.
.114 BA
.170 OBP
.114 SLG
-16 wRC+
Hader talked about it a little after he signed with us.
~13 min mark
~13 min mark
The knock on Hader for the IP is overblown.
Can Madison Bumgarner play first? He is a free agent, hits better than Abreu and can pitch when some innings are needed.
Man, what a signing Teoscar Hernadez has been for the Dodgers. One year deal for the OFer.
.930 OPS, 4 HR, and NL leading 15 RBI.
.930 OPS, 4 HR, and NL leading 15 RBI.
I've seen a few Dusty to Espada comparisons since last night so I just want to post that there is a difference in making a move that doesn't work and constantly not putting your team in a position to win by the way you structure your lineup.
At least Espada is not leaving Abreu at 4th or 5th or Diaz on the bench
At least Espada is not leaving Abreu at 4th or 5th or Diaz on the bench
Our special assistant to the owner has a great idea for that hole at 1B.3B Paul 97 said:
Can Madison Bumgarner play first? He is a free agent, hits better than Abreu and can pitch when some innings are needed.
redline248 said:
I've seen a few Dusty to Espada comparisons since last night so I just want to post that there is a difference in making a move that doesn't work and constantly not putting your team in a position to win by the way you structure your lineup.
At least Espada is not leaving Abreu at 4th or 5th or Diaz on the bench
Exactly
Our team had 9 innings and 14 hits to score more than. 3 runs.
They lost it. We had no real bullpen options in extra innings without sacrificing depth of the next few games
I'll continue to say this...sign Grienke and tell him you want him to hit and learn 1st base. He's a gold glover, he can figure it out.3B Paul 97 said:
Can Madison Bumgarner play first? He is a free agent, hits better than Abreu and can pitch when some innings are needed.
texasaggie2015 said:
Whether he said it or not, I don't see why it's hard to grasp that they don't want their closer throwing multiple innings this early in the season. Especially after we saw the effects of fatigue in our bullpen last year.
It's a marathon.
He threw 11 pitches. That's nothing. He could have pitched another inning and he would be fine. Especially since he's gettng paid $19 million for the year.
How did Houston Astros fan watch Martin Maldonado the last couple of seasons?
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This is a WhiteSox media guy...the replies in here are just Astros fan trauma dumping
The Dodgers and Astros injured list might be the best pitching staff ever assembled pic.twitter.com/nAKIVV4LWO
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EastCoastAgNc said:How did Houston Astros fan watch Martin Maldonado the last couple of seasons?
— Josh Nelson - Sox Machine (@soxmachine_josh) April 10, 2024
With lots and lots of alcohol
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
I did this after the third gamegambochaman said:
Im starting to prepare myself for the possibility that this team simply wont put it all together this year
As bad as Moldy is Abreu is worse...at least Moldy has a doubleMarvin said:EastCoastAgNc said:How did Houston Astros fan watch Martin Maldonado the last couple of seasons?
— Josh Nelson - Sox Machine (@soxmachine_josh) April 10, 2024
With lots and lots of alcohol
Stopping for a while and starting again is something some relievers aren't accustomed to. They warm up quickly and once they cool down they can be injury prone if they go out and pitch more. I promise you it's not as simple as it sounds.
I don't understand why this so hard to grasp. Yes- he's getting paid a lot of money. But they also know his arm and they know what's best long term.
I don't understand why this so hard to grasp. Yes- he's getting paid a lot of money. But they also know his arm and they know what's best long term.
Moldy also technically slightly improved the last 3 seasons but was very consistent in his production. The entire organization and fanbase knew what we were getting with himBeerosch said:As bad as Moldy is Abreu is worse...at least Moldy has a doubleMarvin said:EastCoastAgNc said:How did Houston Astros fan watch Martin Maldonado the last couple of seasons?
— Josh Nelson - Sox Machine (@soxmachine_josh) April 10, 2024
With lots and lots of alcohol
Abreu is just a cataclysmic drop-off at this pace
Correa doing Correa things and throwing a laser guided missile to nail Ohtani at the plate
Watch Kirilloff and Correa combine to nab Ohtani at the plate | Streamable
Watch Kirilloff and Correa combine to nab Ohtani at the plate | Streamable
texasaggie2015 said:
Stopping for a while and starting again is something some relievers aren't accustomed to. They warm up quickly and once they cool down they can be injury prone if they go out and pitch more. I promise you it's not as simple as it sounds.
I don't understand why this so hard to grasp. Yes- he's getting paid a lot of money. But they also know his arm and they know what's best long term.
It's a message board. People discuss, they wonder, they rant, they celebrate, they postulate, and sometimes they self-immolate.
I wouldn't worry so much about defending the club. TexAgs should be consumed for entertainment purposes only!
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Just sharing info that some may be unaware of... sorry. I'll tone it down.
Boiling Denim said:
Correa doing Correa things and throwing a laser guided missile to nail Ohtani at the plate
Watch Kirilloff and Correa combine to nab Ohtani at the plate | Streamable
Now THAT was a perfect throw!
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
texasaggie2015 said:
Just sharing info that some may be unaware of... sorry. I'll tone it down.
All good- just don't want you to burn out from addressing all our asinine comments.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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