I'm fine if runners on base count towards the 4.
I'm not fine with 5 IP, 1R, 85 pitches
Yes, it very well can be especially if you you're facing the other team's ace. The Astros plated two runs last night in 10 innings, the 2nd via the horrific Manfred Man Rule.Cooter00 said:
4 runs is a deep hole?
As I already stated, I'd like starters to go deeper into games but it is idiotic to force it by rule. This would be an extreme overreaction to how teams currently handle rotations. Please tell me how forcing teams to use a starter for six innings (or 100 pitches) in anyway improves the game on the field?Quote:
I'm not fine with 5 IP, 1R, 85 pitches
EastCoastAgNc said:Justin Verlander’s 2nd rehab start is done. 4 IP, 4 H, 2 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 5 K. In 1st inning: 3 H, 2 R, 19 pitches.
— Adam Wexler (@AdamJWexler) August 16, 2024
In innings 2-4: H, 5 K, 38 pitches, 27 strikes. @cchooks scored 7 runs in a long top of the 2nd, are leading 9-2 at NW Arkansas. #Astros
jkag89 said:
Arlington fans are back to *****ing about Blue.
I get the Rangers are having a very, very frustrating season following a fantastic postseason run last year but Blue is not the reason they're going down in flames at the moment.
Cooter00 said:
Yes I'm aware of the score of last nights game.
Blanco threw 73 pitches (hit on hand)
Littell threw 68 in 5 innings
Sometimes the other teams starting pitcher is better. That's baseball.
It may improve the product by not having so many relievers blow away hitters.
Bottom line, it may need some tweaks but I don't hate the idea.
Beat40 said:Cooter00 said:
Yes I'm aware of the score of last nights game.
Blanco threw 73 pitches (hit on hand)
Littell threw 68 in 5 innings
Sometimes the other teams starting pitcher is better. That's baseball.
It may improve the product by not having so many relievers blow away hitters.
Bottom line, it may need some tweaks but I don't hate the idea.
The bold is the bottom line why MLB is proposing it. They want more runs. They know the data that teams facing a guy a third time leads to more runs. Thus, mandatory 6 innings, 100 innings, or 4 runs. MLB doesn't care about the pitcher in this case. It's not about player safety, or health, even if they say it is. It's about generating more runs.
I'm sorry, I think that's a crappy reason to institute a rule like this.
It's not an improvement to take quality competition away from the game, which is what this rule does. Forcing runs via a guy sucking is actually bad for the product.
Yes sometimes the other team's starter is better, I guess teams should just throw in the towel sacrifice some scrub vs another team's ace instead figuring out a way to use their staff in whatever manner it sees fit in an attempt to win the game. You got to know this is how some teams will handle this. it is already common in the college game where teams will not pitch their ace in the first game of the series in hopes they can still take a series with using their ace against the other team's #2 and the #2 against the #3. Are you now going to create a rule where the powers that be in New York dictate what pitchers start games. What about the postseason? Still a rule? Not all that hard to imagine a World Series for the Ages ruined because in Game 7 one team's starter is ineffective but MUST stay in the game.Quote:
Sometimes the other teams starting pitcher is better. That's baseball.
Or it might hurt the game by increasing the number of arm injuries because the starter MUST stay in the game due to an arbitrary rule. Take a guess which is more likely to cause an arm injury, a 100+ pitches thrown over seven, eight or even nine innings where most are not high leverage or forcing a pitcher who is struggling for whatever reason to throw multiple high pitch count innings until he meets the requirement of an arbitrary rule.Quote:
It may improve the product by not having so many relievers blow away hitters.
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. . . some tweaks . . .
Sources: The #Astros are calling up IF Shay Whitcomb to the big leagues.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) August 16, 2024
Whitcomb led Minor League Baseball with 35 Home Runs in 2023.
Whitcomb has 25 Homers in 2024, and has crushed in Triple-A with a .908 OPS. pic.twitter.com/JMg1mC8mVW
bearkatag15 said:Sources: The #Astros are calling up IF Shay Whitcomb to the big leagues.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) August 16, 2024
Whitcomb led Minor League Baseball with 35 Home Runs in 2023.
Whitcomb has 25 Homers in 2024, and has crushed in Triple-A with a .908 OPS. pic.twitter.com/JMg1mC8mVW
Beat40 said:Cooter00 said:
Yes I'm aware of the score of last nights game.
Blanco threw 73 pitches (hit on hand)
Littell threw 68 in 5 innings
Sometimes the other teams starting pitcher is better. That's baseball.
It may improve the product by not having so many relievers blow away hitters.
Bottom line, it may need some tweaks but I don't hate the idea.
The bold is the bottom line why MLB is proposing it. They want more runs. They know the data that teams facing a guy a third time leads to more runs. Thus, mandatory 6 innings, 100 pitches, or 4 runs. MLB doesn't care about the pitcher in this case. It's not about player safety, or health, even if they say it is. It's about generating more runs.
I'm sorry, I think that's a crappy reason to institute a rule like this.
It's not an improvement to take quality competition away from the game, which is what this rule does. Forcing runs via a guy sucking is actually bad for the product.
tjack16 said:bearkatag15 said:Sources: The #Astros are calling up IF Shay Whitcomb to the big leagues.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) August 16, 2024
Whitcomb led Minor League Baseball with 35 Home Runs in 2023.
Whitcomb has 25 Homers in 2024, and has crushed in Triple-A with a .908 OPS. pic.twitter.com/JMg1mC8mVW
Who's going down? Diaz?
BQRyno said:
Agree 100%. Banning the shift is a joke. If a Major League Baseball player can't learn to lay down a bunt for a hit, that's on him. I dislike this almost as much as manfred ball. Quit tinkering with the game.
You are going to have to be a little more specific about which Diaz you want to go away.tjack16 said:bearkatag15 said:Sources: The #Astros are calling up IF Shay Whitcomb to the big leagues.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) August 16, 2024
Whitcomb led Minor League Baseball with 35 Home Runs in 2023.
Whitcomb has 25 Homers in 2024, and has crushed in Triple-A with a .908 OPS. pic.twitter.com/JMg1mC8mVW
Who's going down? Diaz?
Exactly.texasaggie2015 said:
How could you forget Cooper Hummel?
Or Blair Henleytexasaggie2015 said:
How could you forget Cooper Hummel?
According to Umpire Scorecard, they have been favored in 55% of their games. We have been favored in 43%.Prosperdick said:
So the rangerettes are still b*tching about the umps. Does someone have the full season rankings because I'm fairly sure we're still last or next to last and I'm curious where the poor, targeted arlingtonians rank.