Seattle? Interesting.

I was surprised they weren't listed as a favorite originally.

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If there were an equal number of LHP and RHP then this makes sense. But there aren't, and that might keep Langford out of the lineup for an entire week.

CY will figure it out. Garcia, Duran, Taveras, Carter, Langford. That's pretty salty for years to come.

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That is why I mentioned DH. Between that and platooning, he should get plenty of ABs.

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I gotta say, this is pretty fun talking about all these possibilities. No matter the direction we go I trust CY.

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Agree. Even if they don't make the decisions I personally would like, there is a reason he in an MLB GM and I am not. He helped get us one ring, I trust him to maximize our resources to help us get another.

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The most amazing thing about CY is that he didn't just have a "good" performance at the beginning of his tenure. We won the World Series...for the first time ever...in Year 2. Anything he does beyond this, and I believe he will be a force for years to come, is gravy.

Put me on record declaring Ohtani does NOT sign with the LAD.

I finally spent some time looking at them, since there has been so much speculation about Ohtani.

They are about $75M below the '24 Luxury Tax level and have 3 consecutive years (at least) over the LTax.

They have zero pitching for 2024 and will have to sign at least 3 SPs to get through the season.

Their #1 is Buehler who didn't pitch in 2023 (TJ). Their next 5 options have a combined 65.2 IP in 2022. The 5 have a combined 52 GS in 2023. Their ages: 23, 24, 24, 25, and 26.

I can't see Ohtani signing with the LAD until they get some FA SPs signed. Will they compete?
I think SP would be a spending priority for the LAD. Spending is one thing. Penalties are another.

Reference if you want it:

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(Some came out of BP so IP may see crazy):
Miller ( 24 - R ) : 22GS, 3.76, 124.1 IP
Grove ( 26 - R ): 12GS, 6.13, 69.0 IP <29.1 IP in 2022>
Sheehan (23-R): 11GS, 4.92, 60.1 IP
Stone ( 24 - R ) : 4GS, 9.00, 31.0 IP
Pepiot ( 25 - R ): 3GS, 2.14, 42.0 IP <36.1 IP in 2022>

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Do you go after Hader?

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THIS! Would be a great add. Get him and you could let Chapman walk.

Me wearing my GM hat:

Package a deal with the Pirates for David Bednar. I think he is Arb 1 eligible this year. Give then Leody and Foscue and a minor league arm if they want it.

Sign Neris or another top BP piece.

Offer Garver 2 yrs at 10.5 per. If he doesn't take it, Huff is your backup Catcher and backup 1B.

Sign Monty

That's +/- $40MM with no Hader and not giving up a draft pick for him.

Edit: still don't have a serviceable LHP out of the pen so we'll take Will Smith for league minimum.

I know we have high expectations, but we may have some internal options.

Brock Burke was supposed to be solid after 2022.
'22: 52G, 82.1 IP, 1.97 ERA, 9.8 K/9, 1.057 WHIP.

Hopefully Latz gets over the hump.

We're going to need some depth, regardless.

Likelihood DeGrom does not pitch at all in '24? Is there a chance the club sits him all year to give him basically 2 full years to be ready for the last 3 years of his contract?

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Likelihood DeGrom does not pitch at all in '24? Is there a chance the club sits him all year to give him basically 2 full years to be ready for the last 3 years of his contract?

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I would not be surprised if this is the case. I've said this previously but I really think the team needs to approach next year as if he will not be available, and anything we get out of him would be a bonus.

Their fielding should be considerably better next year

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the Angels have next to a non-existent farm system?

Wow Wash is back

Has there ever been a picture taken of Wash when he's not laughing his ass off?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the Angels have next to a non-existent farm system?

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That.

They also lose their best P and best H - Ohtani.

Double post. TA is crashing on my phone

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bmac_aggie18 said:

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the Angels have next to a non-existent farm system?

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That.

The also lose their best P and best H - Ohtani.

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Not that Trout has been on the field much but they could potentially lose him too although I doubt they'd get a lot of prospects with the amount of money owed and his expected contribution (or lack thereof)

Somewhat ironic the Angels are the last MLB team that had a player die of a drug overdose.

bmac_aggie18 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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bmac_aggie18 said:

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the Angels have next to a non-existent farm system?

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That.

The also lose their best P and best H - Ohtani.

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Not that Trout has been on the field much but they could potentially lose him too although I doubt they'd get a lot of prospects with the amount of money owed and his expected contribution (or lack thereof)

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7 MORE YEARS AT $37.1M PER

Look, they'd do well to give him away and only eat 50% of the remaining money.

The last 3 seasons, he has averaged 79G, .283, 22 HR, 5SB. .382 OBP.

Plays less than half the games!

Health is a major factor, but I'd take a healthy Trout on my team any day. He's still got value too. Idk what that is honestly, but he's not some bum. You'd just have to come up with a plan to keep him on the field. A change of scenery might be all he needs tbh.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the Angels have next to a non-existent farm system?

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As someone who frequently attends games of one of their minor league teams and has seen a lot of bad baseball, I would say that your assertion is absolutely correct.

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Interesting...

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2023-midseason-system-rankings

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28. Los Angeles Angels
2023 preseason rank: 28
2022 midseason rank: 30
2022 preseason rank: 28
2021 midseason rank: 24

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And they traded some guys at the deadline, and if their Payroll remains above the Luxury Tax, their Comp Draft Pick for Ohtani will drop in value.

The Rangers traded prospects, but we still get Scherzer for 2024. And something about a Ring... or Trophy... or something...

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Monty and Hader.

If you got those two, and Scherzer gets right, the club would be a monster. The Rangers would easily get into the playoffs, and this season has shown us that's all you really need.

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Rangers converted 30 of 63 Save opportunities (48%). I think league average is usually around 65%. If our BP converted the league average of 65%, they'd have had 41 Saves, increasing W total by 11G.

We'd have finished at 101Ws.

Leclerc's velo was still recovering early in the season, which is why his performance in the 2nd H was so improved. 3.08 v 2.35 ERA

Sborz found himself.

Hader would elevate the who BP, IMO.

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the bullpen started rolling once Bochy decided that he was never going to pitch Will Smith in a late inning leverage situation. Smith may have led the team in saves but he was ASS when it counted.

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DallasAg 94 said:

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rgag12 said:

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Monty and Hader.

If you got those two, and Scherzer gets right, the club would be a monster. The Rangers would easily get into the playoffs, and this season has shown us that's all you really need.

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Rangers converted 30 of 63 Save opportunities (48%). I think league average is usually around 65%. If our BP converted the league average of 65%, they'd have had 41 Saves, increasing W total by 11G.

We'd have finished at 101Ws.

Leclerc's velo was still recovering early in the season, which is why his performance in the 2nd H was so improved. 3.08 v 2.35 ERA

Sborz found himself.

Hader would elevate the who BP, IMO.

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the bullpen started rolling once Bochy decided that he was never going to pitch Will Smith in a late inning leverage situation. Smith may have led the team in saves but he was ASS when it counted.

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He fell apart, for sure.

Pre All-Star Break:
33G, 15 of 17 Saves, 3.06 ERA, 0.87 WHIP
Post All-Star Break:
27G, 7 of 10 Saves, 6.12 ERA, 1.32 WHIP

ETA post All-Star #s

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DallasAg 94 said:

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bmac_aggie18 said:

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That.

The also lose their best P and best H - Ohtani.

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Not that Trout has been on the field much but they could potentially lose him too although I doubt they'd get a lot of prospects with the amount of money owed and his expected contribution (or lack thereof)

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OK, I'm out of the loop big time and will admit it, but what happened to Trout. He's no longer one of the best in the game? That was so 2015?

He's missed A TON of time the past three seasons. That's pretty much it.