*****Official 2023-2024 Texas Rangers Off-season Thread*****

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https://web.musc.edu/about/news-center/2023/05/16/home-run-dermatologist

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But I get it, these guys need to make a few more million dollars to support their families.


His wife is gorgeous and is currently doing her intern year at Harvard prior to entering the dermatology program at Vanderbilt.

I really think they're going to be OK no matter what goes down with regard to his future contracts.
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Montgomery to the Nashville Sounds in 2025 confirmed.
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I think the same way. Go all in while the window is wide open. CY has gone on record saying we don't want to go over the luxury tax but he's open to it. Whether we sign Monty back or not will tell us what direction this franchise wants to go.
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I could also see Monty getting crazy offers from desperate teams like the dodgers or Yankees.
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Water Boy said:

I could also see Monty getting crazy offers from desperate teams like the dodgers or Yankees.


Yeah, I'm crossing my fingers that one of these Monty bidders lands Ohtani.
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I agree, I think Soto could have been a good fit for the Rangers. 1yr @ DH would give us that fill, and then with either Langford and/or Duran sliding into position, Adolis or Seager could fill DH. I just don't know Soto's clubhouse demeanor/fit.

I think Dunning would be too big of a loss and wouldn't have been necessary. He was our best SP the 1H23 and with 3 years of Arb, is a tremendous inexpensive piece moving forward.

Dunning as a SP went:
May and June:10GS, 60IP and a 3.00 ERA
July: 5 GS, 5.06 ERA
Aug/Sept: 11 GS, 4.40 ERA
I'm hoping Dunning ran out of gas in the 2H and started to see fatigue and some loss in effectiveness. If he could sustain the 3.00 or even go to 3.50-3.75, for the entire 2024... I'd be pleased as punch.

Here is what NYY gave up:
Michael King (28-MLB-RHP): 9GS, 49G, 2.75, 104.7, 127 SO, 1.146 WHIP) Arb2 in '24
Jhony Brito (25-MLB-RHP): 13GS, 25G, 4.28, 90.1, 72 SO
Kyle Higashioka (33-MLB-C): 92G, .236, 10 HR, .274 OBP

Drew Thorpe (22-AA/A+-RHP): 23GS, 2.78, 139.1 IP, 182 SO (Now SDP #6 prospect, #99overall)
Randy Vsquez (25-MLB-RHP): 5GS, 11G, 2.87, 37.2 IP, 33 SO (Now SDP #15)
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Rangers equivalents?!
Dunning (28-MLB-RHP): 26GS, 35G, 3.70 ERA, 172.2 IP, 140 SO, 1.263 WHIP Arb1 in '24
Brito about like Brock Burke (26) or Cody Bradford (25), maybe?!

Thorpe is ranked somewhere between Brock Porter (our #4, 91 overall) and Jack Leiter. Foscue is our #6.
Our #15 is Josh Stephan (22-AA-RHP)

If we were in on Ohtani, Soto would have been a good short-term option:
J Soto (24-OF-LHB): 162G, .275, 35 HR, 12 SB, .410 OBP, 129 SO
Ohtani (28-DH-LHB): 135G, .304, 44 HR, 20 SB, .412 OBP, 143 SO

Having said that, keeping our powder dry will allow us to leverage those players during the season, if necessary. When the Yanks get eliminated, maybe they're willing to give up Soto for less. OR... we might be in the market for a SP.
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Water Boy said:

I could also see Monty getting crazy offers from desperate teams like the dodgers or Yankees.
That's what I'm expecting. Not sure he would choose either destination, but I expect the money to be there.
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Anybody else forget we have deGrom? Could you imagine deGrom, Eovaldi, Montgomery, Scherzer, Gray/Dunning/Heaney. I'm hoping we decent lengthy season from deGrom in 25.
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I don't think anyone has forgotten him, but I'm just not sure what they'll ever be able to count on from him.
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I'm not counting on DeGrom for 24 at all. Hoping we have him starting in 25 for at least a couple of healthy years
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Water Boy said:

Anybody else forget we have deGrom? Could you imagine deGrom, Eovaldi, Montgomery, Scherzer, Gray/Dunning/Heaney. I'm hoping we decent lengthy season from deGrom in 25.
I believe Scherzer is only under contract through '24
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deGrom has mentioned periodically.

I think he is expected back in Aug '24. No clue what we should get, but if we got more than 25-30 IP, I'd be surprised, just based on the time left in the season.

I think traditionally, TJs go 100-150 IP in their 1st year back. There as been recent belief that limiting IP hasn't shown to be relevant to success in return. I'm still on the "limit to less than 150 IP" if for no other reason, tradition.

So, if we get 150IP in 2025, that is best case to me.
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I just want one good year of deGrom pitching in at least 25 games. Not sure we will get it but wouldn't count out a guy at his level.
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I've already mentioned this in the past but we should take a hard look at Neris. Seems like the perfect guy for us considering position and price.
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Saw 20 new posts and thought we made a move. Darn!
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The Rangers haven't shown any interest, as Neris I can tell .....
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From Rosenthal on the Athletic:

The Rangers, facing financial uncertainty due to the potential loss of their local television rights deal, seem unlikely to bring back left-hander Jordan Montgomery, who can argue that he has outperformed Aaron Nola, the Phillies' $172 million man, over the past three seasons.

Kershaw would be less expensive. A number of other free-agent starters would be, too. And in the postseason, the Rangers demonstrated the value of pitching depth, using three starters, Andrew Heaney, Dane Dunning and Jon Gray, as glorified openers or relievers.

The team, according to major-league sources briefed on its plans, has the same idea in mind for '24. The Rangers could sign Kershaw and wait for him and deGrom in the second half. Or they can go for second-tier free agents who would be ready to pitch Opening Day, pitchers such as Michael Wacha, Sean Manaea and Frankie Montas. And perhaps prospects such as Owen White and Jack Leiter would provide the second-half boost.

The Rangers already have several starters in place Gray, Heaney, Dunning and Cody Bradford, not to mention, ahem, Max Scherzer and Nathan Eovaldi. It's just a matter of how general manager Chris Young rounds out the edges. And Kershaw, if he is indeed capable of pitching in '24, would be one heck of a way to start.

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Does Kershaw even want to be a Ranger? I see all the time about the potential to bring him home but it never happens. Also would have to be a pretty cheap deal considering his age, injury, and his performance in the playoffs. How much is Kershaw predicted to command this offseason?
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No idea. I think people are speculating based on hometown and the nuns thing with the Dodgers.

Edited to add: maybe he'd do an incentive heavy deal to be able to rehab at home.
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Dodgers paying 700 mil for Ohtani! Glad we passed on that kind of craziness!
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WestTexasAg said:

Dodgers paying 700 mil for Ohtani! Glad we passed on that kind of craziness!


Saw that. Wtf
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That's stupid money. Glad we will spend our money on Monty, Hader or other pitchers. We have enough hitters.
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I wouldn't have paid half of that for
Ohtani…
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I mean let's not get carried away, he's worth 50 at least, but 70 is outrageous money that won't ever be touched again.
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He's not worth $50M/yr for Texas…nope…
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70 is outrageous money that won't ever be touched again
And the Dodgers are about to show us why...

ETA - I'm just glad that if he isn't with the Rangers then he's in the NL.
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The number of years at that price is crazy. Be interesting to see the details.
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That's $737K per RBI last season…stupid…
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FireAg said:

That's $737K per RBI last season…stupid…

Holy crap
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agent-maroon said:

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70 is outrageous money that won't ever be touched again
And the Dodgers are about to show us why...


They still don't have pitchers for next year.
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Tksymm7 said:

I mean let's not get carried away, he's worth 50 at least, but 70 is outrageous money that won't ever be touched again.


He's not worth that either. Dude can't even pitch again until 25, if he ever will again. He's essentially a DH at most next year, and who knows after that.
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I was expecting him to get around 500 million which is very fair. 700 million is insane.
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Someone call and check on Toronto
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The Drake curse lives on


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He will make $432,098.77 per game if he plays all 162…insane.

Wonder on average how many tickets that would make up per game?
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