***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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Farmer1906
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Okay. I lied. 9 players.

Tucker
Altuve
Diaz
McCormick
Framber
Javier
Hader
Pressly
Abreu
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This is up there with a time I traded a classmate (in like '91) a Wally Joyner rookie card for like 14 Astros cards.
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I once traded my brand-new Optimus Prime for my best friend's worn-out Soundwave and Ravage. My mom vetoed the deal.
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I traded a John Elway rookie for a Mike Scott rookie. Scott was my favorite Astro and Elway had just led a big comeback against the Oilers in the playoffs. I'm still pissed about that comeback. I'd make the same deal 10 out of 10 times. I regret nothing. F' Elway.
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Happy Free MLB.tv Day fellow T-Mobile customers!

No email yet but the coupon is live in the Tuesdays app.
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Fangraphs Position Player Rankings

Catcher: 14th
First Base: 26th
Second Base: 4th
Shortstop: 19th
Third Base: 2nd
Left Field: 1st
Center Field: 18th
Right Field: 4th
Designated Hitter: 1st
Relief Pitcher: 5th
Starting Pitcher: TBD - top 15

A few thoughts
  • We finally fixed our catcher problem (25th in '23), but still have a hole at 1B (25th in '23).
  • The DH graph is interesting (funny?) - See below. Two runaways from the pack.
  • I think they're sleeping on Pena a little. His defense alone carried his WAR the first two seasons at 3.4 & 2.8. 2.6 means a small step back.
  • a 4.9 WAR for TED means his 4th straight year falling just short of 5 fWAR (4.7, 4.8, 4.9, 4.9).
  • How does Colorado have a negative WAR for DH? Embarrassing.
  • How friends up 45 rank 26th in RP. Their achilles heel returns. How did they not address this in the offseason?
  • ATL is pretty much stacked everywhere by LF & SS.



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It's Opening Day week, so test your knowledge of the Astros' opening day lineups for the last 30 years.

https://www.sporcle.com/games/stustustudio/astros19882009

I got 248/281. Perfect from 1994-2007 and perfect from 2017-2023.
I only knew 3 out of 10 for 2014.
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263/281
tjack16
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Harder than I thought. Got everything 2014-present. Also gave up early because of work

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texasaggie2015 said:

Friday night is loaded. Sweet 16 (especially UH/Duke), Astros/Yankees, Rockets suddenly in the playoff hunt facing the Jazz.

Anyone down for a little texags meetup?


Need to check with Mrs. Marvin, but I should be available.
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247 (88%)

I think the few leading up to this greatly helped.
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236. I blanked on a couple.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Friday night is loaded. Sweet 16 (especially UH/Duke), Astros/Yankees, Rockets suddenly in the playoff hunt facing the Jazz.

Anyone down for a little texags meetup?


I might be available
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Farmer1906 said:

Okay. I lied. 9 players.

Tucker
Altuve
Diaz
McCormick
Framber
Javier
Hader
Pressly
Abreu
I'm assuming a draft league and not an auction league?
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Farmer1906 said:

I may have selected 7 Astros in my draft.


I got 4.

Yordan, Bregman, Javier and Bryan Abreu
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Yes, H2H 5x5 with holds so Abreu and Pressly have some nice value.
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263/281
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you guys need to graduate to auction leagues. that's where the fun is!
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Baseball Reference is drunk.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2024-playoff-odds.shtml

It has the Mariners winning the division with 91 wins and second-highest WS odds in the AL behind Baltimore.

It gives the Astros 87 wins and 5.5% of winning it all.

It projects NYY to finish last in the AL East with 71 wins.

The Brewers are given a 8.1% chance of winning the WS.
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If we assume Loperfido plays well in Sugar Land and Abreu starts how he did at the start of 2023, how long before Loperfido gets the call?
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agproducer said:

Baseball Reference is drunk.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2024-playoff-odds.shtml

It has the Mariners winning the division with 91 wins and second-highest WS odds in the AL behind Baltimore.

It gives the Astros 87 wins and 5.5% of winning it all.

It projects NYY to finish last in the AL East with 71 wins.

The Brewers are given a 8.1% chance of winning the WS.


Not crazy to me.
Starting pitching is a major issue.
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I predicted before the end of May
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Farmer1906 said:

If we assume Loperfido plays well in Sugar Land and Abreu starts how he did at the start of 2023, how long before Loperfido gets the call?


July
cc10106
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Another year, another attempt to hype the Mariners. Dipoto will need to pull off some trade deadline magic to get them there, and J-Rod will need to be MVP-caliber.
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Mariners pitching, starters and pen, is going to be salty
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

Mariners pitching, starters and pen, is going to be salty
But trying to win every game 2-1 isnt a realistic strategy for success.

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agproducer said:

Baseball Reference is drunk.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2024-playoff-odds.shtml

It has the Mariners winning the division with 91 wins and second-highest WS odds in the AL behind Baltimore.

It gives the Astros 87 wins and 5.5% of winning it all.

It projects NYY to finish last in the AL East with 71 wins.

The Brewers are given a 8.1% chance of winning the WS.


Braves winning 94 is laughable.
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Mathguy64 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

Mariners pitching, starters and pen, is going to be salty
But trying to win every game 2-1 isnt a realistic strategy for success.




This is a little too much exaggeration.

The were 11th in runs, 10th in Offensive WAR, & 9th in wRC+. There offense wasn't terrible. We'll see how the changes play out.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

Mariners pitching, starters and pen, is going to be salty
For sure, just like last year, when they couldn't beat the "declining" Astros when it mattered most.

Baseball media picking a team besides Houston to win the AL West is nothing new though.
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Farmer1906 said:

Mathguy64 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

Mariners pitching, starters and pen, is going to be salty
But trying to win every game 2-1 isnt a realistic strategy for success.




This is a little too much exaggeration.

The were 11th in runs, 10th in Offensive WAR, & 9th in wRC+. There offense wasn't terrible. We'll see how the changes play out.
SEA was a .500 team (literally .500 on the nose) until July 25 when they went on a 27-7 run. That coincided when their schedule got stupidly easy and J-Rod when on his world class heater. Once the schedule turned and he cooled off (and IIRC he went on the IL?) they played the rest of the season under .500.

They beat the dog poop out of bad teams.
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Baseball Reference has a lot of nerve to predict such a low win total for Arlington. Has there ever been a team more primed to repeat as champions?
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