***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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fWAR > rWAR
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Opening week! Let's go

Official prediction: Astros 93-69 to win the division and this man will win AL MVP

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Chas wins MVP and gold glove....OK just kidding but had to pump up my guy. My prediction is 100-62 and Bregman completely goes off and wins MVP. Sadly his value is never higher and we have to pay through the nose but Crane does it.
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https://theathletic.com/5365265/2024/03/25/mlb-predictions-2024-season-alonso-bieber-dodgers?source=user-shared-article
Astros predictions:
- Astros win the division
- Trade for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline
- Tucker goes 30/30
- Astros extend Tucker on a 10 year deal for $200m+, let Breggy walk and he signs with the blue jays
- Astros make the world series and lose to the braves
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Prosperdick said:

Chas wins MVP and gold glove....OK just kidding but had to pump up my guy. My prediction is 100-62 and Bregman completely goes off and wins MVP. Sadly his value is never higher and we have to pay through the nose but Crane does it.


It's very obvious how good he will be but I guess I'll post it… Javier will go 32-0, 0.01 ERA (one lucky home-run that'll get out due to a fan reaching over but Angel Hernandez won't see it) and win unanimous Cy Young
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Interesting...Wonder what kind of prospects we'd need for a Goldy trade.

I thought we should've done that move a while back.
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Ag_07 said:

Interesting...Wonder what kind of prospects we'd need for a Goldy trade.

I thought we should've done that move a while back.

He would be a rental, so probably not much. We certainly wouldn't win a bidding war.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

https://theathletic.com/5365265/2024/03/25/mlb-predictions-2024-season-alonso-bieber-dodgers?source=user-shared-article
Astros predictions:
- Astros win the division
- Trade for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline
- Tucker goes 30/30
- Astros extend Tucker on a 10 year deal for $200m+, let Breggy walk and he signs with the blue jays
- Astros make the world series and lose to the braves


That must mean Abreu stinks it up again.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

https://theathletic.com/5365265/2024/03/25/mlb-predictions-2024-season-alonso-bieber-dodgers?source=user-shared-article
Astros predictions:
- Astros win the division
- Trade for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline
- Tucker goes 30/30
- Astros extend Tucker on a 10 year deal for $200m+, let Breggy walk and he signs with the blue jays
- Astros make the world series and lose to the braves


Honestly I'd take that in a heartbeat. Especially the making the WS + extending Tucker.
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tjack16 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

https://theathletic.com/5365265/2024/03/25/mlb-predictions-2024-season-alonso-bieber-dodgers?source=user-shared-article
Astros predictions:
- Astros win the division
- Trade for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline
- Tucker goes 30/30
- Astros extend Tucker on a 10 year deal for $200m+, let Breggy walk and he signs with the blue jays
- Astros make the world series and lose to the braves


Honestly I'd take that in a heartbeat. Especially the making the WS + extending Tucker.

I'd like to beat the braves, but other than that, I'm on board
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For a team that basically copied the Astros' rebuild, it will be interesting to see what the Orioles can do with all that talent. Do they have an owner as passionate and that wants to win like Jim Crane?
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2024 Astros Predictions

  • Win 95 games during the regular season
  • MCCullers has 2 wins in the playoffs
  • Make the World Series
  • Pass on re-signing both Breggie and King Tuck
  • Sign 2-3 upcoming guys in the offseason for half the price and the beat goes on
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cc10106 said:

For a team that basically copied the Astros' rebuild, it will be interesting to see what the Orioles can do with all that talent. Do they have an owner as passionate and that wants to win like Jim Crane?
With the talent they've built, they just need a businessman as an owner that listens to the front office to have a great run the last half of the 2020s.
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AgLA06 said:

cc10106 said:

For a team that basically copied the Astros' rebuild, it will be interesting to see what the Orioles can do with all that talent. Do they have an owner as passionate and that wants to win like Jim Crane?
With the talent they've built, they just need a businessman as an owner that listens to the front office to have a great run the last half of the 2020s.


Starting in 2025 I think the AL runs through Baltimore much like it has in Houston the last 8 seasons
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EastCoastAgNc said:

tjack16 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

https://theathletic.com/5365265/2024/03/25/mlb-predictions-2024-season-alonso-bieber-dodgers?source=user-shared-article
Astros predictions:
- Astros win the division
- Trade for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline
- Tucker goes 30/30
- Astros extend Tucker on a 10 year deal for $200m+, let Breggy walk and he signs with the blue jays
- Astros make the world series and lose to the braves


Honestly I'd take that in a heartbeat. Especially the making the WS + extending Tucker.

I'd like to beat the braves, but other than that, I'm on board
Braves better hope for a different opponent if they bounce back and make the World Series again. The 2021 matchup was close to flipping even with the shortage of starters for the Astros.
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  • win 99 games
  • McCullers comes back and helps in long relief
  • We re-sign Tucker, let Bregs walk
  • Loperfido gets called up before May and is this year's Doobie in how he contributes
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tjack16 said:





Starting in 2025 I think the AL runs through Baltimore much like it has in Houston the last 8 seasons
I certainly think the same way. That said, I think we also underestimate how insane it is that Houston has done what they've done for so long. I can acknowledge it is hard to appreciate in the moment. A ton would have to go right for Baltimore to even approach what the Astros have done, but it is saying something that they even have a chance to go on a run that can even compare.
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tjack16 said:

Opening week! Let's go

Official prediction: Astros 93-69 to win the division and this man will win AL MVP




To expand

- 93 wins: division champs (2 seed in AL)
- Beat Texas in the ALDS, and Baltimore in the ALCS
- McCullers and Garcia both make a huge difference in October but mostly out of the pen
- trade for a rental bat at the deadline, especially if Abreu just doesn't have it
- we do re-sign Bregman to a shorter deal with opt outs
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Soft
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So through his new interpreter, Shohei will explain that he is weapons grade stupid and will sign a wire transfer document for any sum of money to any person in the world for anyone who asks. Because he's that kind of guy. Now leave him alone.
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It also excludes postseason where Altuve has a significant advantage.
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I guess I'm in the minority of wanting Shohei to be innocent. I know he's a dodger but still a generational talent that we might not see again at that level
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If Rob Manfred had anything resembling a spine he would suspend Ohtani while the investigation is underway.

Fay Vincent he is not.
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There is zero doubt he is a generational talent, and you cannot take away what he does on the ballfield, but if it comes out he was throwing games due to gambling, its pretty tough to wish him well.
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I just want him to be treated fairly and not be protected and babied. Keep that same energy y'all(baseball fans and media in general) do for Bonds & Clemens and the Astros.
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Just get it over with and take another high draft pick from the Astros for the worst cheating in the history of sports ever. It's the Dodgers; they nor their players ever break rules.
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tjack16 said:

I guess I'm in the minority of wanting Shohei to be innocent. I know he's a dodger but still a generational talent that we might not see again at that level


Pete Rose? Roger Clemens? Barry Bonds? Arod?

All the best in the game. Guilty of various forms of cheating. Shohei would not be alone.

And sports is littered with exceptionally talented players who have a lot of money and who gamble.
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Mathguy64 said:

tjack16 said:

I guess I'm in the minority of wanting Shohei to be innocent. I know he's a dodger but still a generational talent that we might not see again at that level


Pete Rose? Roger Clemens? Barry Bonds? Arod?

All the best in the game. Guilty of various forms of cheating. Shohei would not be alone.

And sports is littered with exceptionally talented players who have a lot of money and who gamble.


That's my issue though is there is zero evidence even if he did gamble that it was on baseball. If he bet on baseball, then yeah ban. But from what I've read there is no evidence towards that
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Farmer1906 said:

Soft


He's pulling a Sammy Sosa. When things went south for Sammy with steroids he basically forgot how to speak English. And that cut off Q&A.
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Let me rephrase my earlier post.

I should have said, I'm hoping he didn't but if he did bet on baseball then yeah give him the ban.

But from what I've read there isn't any evidence yet of him gambling on baseball. It could have been horse racing or March madness for all we know.
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tjack16 said:

Mathguy64 said:

tjack16 said:

I guess I'm in the minority of wanting Shohei to be innocent. I know he's a dodger but still a generational talent that we might not see again at that level


Pete Rose? Roger Clemens? Barry Bonds? Arod?

All the best in the game. Guilty of various forms of cheating. Shohei would not be alone.

And sports is littered with exceptionally talented players who have a lot of money and who gamble.


That's my issue though is there is zero evidence even if he did gamble that it was on baseball. If he bet on baseball, then yeah ban. But from what I've read there is no evidence towards that



So suspend him. And investigate it. Do the due diligence. Because right now all you are getting is Shohei playing stupid and everyone wants to look the other way because he's Shohei.

Our team and players have been vilified for 3 years, many for doing nothing. Altuve has been tarred and feathered for doing nothing. Why is Shohei getting a pass?
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Could be interesting if he's willing to spend on top of having the top farm with an already highly talented big league roster.
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Not only was Sho clearly betting on baseball he was wearing a buzzer while doing it.

Isn't that how this is supposed to work?
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