***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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This is a recent story, not the one from this morning

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Snell, 31, is believed to be seeking the same type of contract recently signed by two other Scott Boras clients, Cody Bellinger and Matt Chapman a three-year deal with two opt outs.



If there a club opt-out included? If so, giddy up.
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Farmer1906 said:

The problem with that kind of deal is that it costs you a draft pick for only 1-2 years of play and they will opt out if they're doing really well.
Agree I'm not doing it for 1 years. Maybe 3 year deal with opt out after year 2.
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Farmer1906 said:

The problem with that kind of deal is that it costs you a draft pick for only 1-2 years of play and they will opt out if they're doing really well.
We're already losing one for Hader, so this would be the 2nd one we'd have to give up. The language Chandler is using here is very similar to what he put out right before Hader signed, so my guess is the deal is almost done already.
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Trying to get more info but from what I was told about an hour ago I'm no longer doubtful. I think we're at 50/50.. maybe slightly better.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Trying to get more info but from what I was told about an hour ago I'm no longer doubtful. I think we're at 50/50.. maybe slightly better.


Any middle relief help coming?
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I know they're actively talking to a few guys but don't have names as far as middle relief goes
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texasaggie2015 said:

I know they're actively talking to a few guys but don't have names as far as middle relief goes
You mentioned Moniak earlier. I'm kinda confused by that one since we would probably have to give up something of value to get him that could probably be used to get a reliever now or someone else at the trade deadline.
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One other possible Framber destination is the Dodgers. Think you could get maybe three arms (some combo of Sheehan, Frasso, River Ryan, Stone and Knack), all of whom can at least contribute out of the pen this year and operate as SP depth.
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Farmer1906 said:

The problem with that kind of deal is that it costs you a draft pick for only 1-2 years of play and they will opt out if they're doing really well.


Yeah that makes me think we might trade away somebody, not this season but after the season to get some prospects back. That is if we pull off the Snell deal
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Latest update I just got: Coin toss but very real possibility. Boras being involved makes it hard to be sure about anything until it crosses the finish line but they're very serious about Snell.
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If we beat the Gators, Cats, and announce Snell then it'll be a pretty decent night.
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Loperfido is exactly what we need. Platoon option for Jake, Chas, & Jose (both of them). And a nice pinch runner. We need to develop him because who the hell knows what's going to happen with TED.
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His stance in the batters box looks a lot like King Tuck.
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Farmer1906 said:

If we beat the Gators, Cats, and announce Snell then it'll be a pretty decent night.

2/3 ain't bad, I'm not counting on basketball for anything.

I like big checkbook Crane.
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Where is Snell in terms of readiness?
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Farmer1906 said:

Loperfido is exactly what we need. Platoon option for Jake, Chas, & Jose (both of them). And a nice pinch runner. We need to develop him because who the hell knows what's going to happen with TED.
I suppose that's the question. Can we get him enough ABs on the big league club or does he need to go to AAA to get consistent ABs? You left off 1B but he's played there as well. I don't think Abreu should be playing 150+ games again, both due to age and ineffectiveness.
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MaxPower said:

Farmer1906 said:

Loperfido is exactly what we need. Platoon option for Jake, Chas, & Jose (both of them). And a nice pinch runner. We need to develop him because who the hell knows what's going to happen with TED.
I suppose that's the question. Can we get him enough ABs on the big league club or does he need to go to AAA to get consistent ABs? You left off 1B but he's played there as well. I don't think Abreu should be playing 150+ games again, both due to age and ineffectiveness.


Jose (both of them) = Abreu and Altuve.

I agree. It's a matter of getting him enough PT to keep developing him. Riding the pine in the show will help so but ultimately he needs reps.
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This Snell negotiation sounds like Boras getting leverage for the Yankees to cough up more $$.
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OKCAg2002 said:

This Snell negotiation sounds like Boras getting leverage for the Yankees to cough up more $$.

The yankees are at a luxury tax point where any new contract they sign, regardless of value, gets taxed at 110% penalty. If they pay him $30m, they pay a $33m tax penalty on top of his salary.
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The best source.

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Problem is he said it to himself in the mirror
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CFTXAG10 said:

Problem is he said it to himself in the mirror


This guy again...
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JD Davis doubled the A's payroll this year.
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Hot take? The As will be much improved this year. They'll be terrible, but I could see them 10 games better.
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Farmer1906 said:

The best source.


Love acquiring Snell for 2024 but these types of decisions can have really bad long-term consequences. Losing 4 of your top 6 picks in the draft with an already poor farm system is not healthy. Makes me wonder if the deal is all in for 2024 then rebuild a bit after the season by trading Framber and Tucker.
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MaxPower said:

Farmer1906 said:

The best source.


Love acquiring Snell for 2024 but these types of decisions can have really bad long-term consequences. Losing 4 of your top 6 picks in the draft with an already poor farm system is not healthy. Makes me wonder if the deal is all in for 2024 then rebuild a bit after the season by trading Framber and Tucker.


If they win it all this year, I'd be ok with this.

Just losing all these prospects and draft picks makes me have Ed Wade and Tim Purpura flashbacks.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


With a line like that they should be shopping him while the value is high
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Is this Snell deal really happening????
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Ok... Sure
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