Who's the backup if Abreu isn't ready opening day? I'm guessing Singleton?
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Pick one:tjack16 said:
Who's the backup if Abreu isn't ready opening day? I'm guessing Singleton?
- Carantini
- Singleton
- Kessinger
Sorry haven't followed. What is his issue?
EastCoastAgNc said:Pick one:tjack16 said:
Who's the backup if Abreu isn't ready opening day? I'm guessing Singleton?
- Carantini
- Singleton
- Kessinger
A few more
-Cabbage (58 AAA, 9 MLB at 1B last year)
-Hensley (10 AAA, 5 MLB at 1B)
-Loperfido (19 A+/AA/AAA at 1B)
-Dubon (2 games at 1B)
MAROON said:
Sorry haven't followed. What is his issue?
Knee soreness. Given his age I wouldn't rule out them taking it very slow
He was running after a popup in foul territory and kinda stepped awkwardly on the bullpen mound.tjack16 said:MAROON said:
Sorry haven't followed. What is his issue?
Knee soreness. Given his age I wouldn't rule out them taking it very slow
EastCoastAgNc said:He was running after a popup in foul territory and kinda stepped awkwardly on the bullpen mound.tjack16 said:MAROON said:
Sorry haven't followed. What is his issue?
Knee soreness. Given his age I wouldn't rule out them taking it very slow
If Yuli slept on a pillow wrong and missed 10+ games… lord knows what could happen with Abreu
Abreu is fine
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— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) March 11, 2024
Spring training has flipped my view on extending Valdez, Bregman, and Tucker.
Do it. Do it now, and do all three.
Squeeze every ounce out of this run, because the next phase will be UGLY. There is not nearly enough talent remaining to reload.
Do it. Do it now, and do all three.
Squeeze every ounce out of this run, because the next phase will be UGLY. There is not nearly enough talent remaining to reload.
Yeah, most of the talent is in the lower levels of the minors. There's some guys down there who they think very highly of.
As far as AAA talent goes, you're mostly right. I think Loperfido is likely going to be a nice player- but other than that, they lack guys with truly high upside. Will Wagner is a decent player- but his most likely outcome is a utility infielder who will come off the bench. Some in the organization really like Dezenzo and he certainly has potential to be a good player, but he has a ways to go in a few areas. They're also pretty split on Jacob Melton. Some think he has 30/30 potential and others don't see the swing and miss going away. Kennedy Corona is elite defensively- but there's holes in his swing. On the pitching side, you have guys like Arrihgetti who has good stuff but will never be an ace. I see a solid #3 type of guy if things pan out. Gordon and Kouba are other guys who may contribute at some point but I don't see them ever being anything more than an average major leaguer at best.
This is a big reason why the Astros seriously considered moving Bregman over the offseason. I don't know what kind of prospects they could have landed since he only had one year left- but the plan was to move him for near major league ready prospects and sign Matt Chapman to play third this year.
The lower levels have a lot more guys with higher upside. Luiz Baez, Miguel Palma, Kenni Gomez are all kids who truly have superstar type talent.. but when you're talking about 18-21 year olds, there's really such a wide range of outcomes that it's difficult to project.
The lack of high upside guys in the minors is a big reason the Astros drafted the way they did last year. Brice Matthews (1st round pick) is one of the more raw players I can remember coming out of college. He's one of those guys who will either turn out to be an all-star caliber shortstop in the big leagues or never make the big leagues at all. Alonzo Treadwell (2nd round pick) is similar as well. He has all the potential in the world- but he's incredibly raw and there's no outcome that would surprise me. They're very high on a couple of the high school kids they drafted- but again, they're so young and difficult to project.
Not all of these guys will hit- in fact, most won't ever make it to the big leagues at all. But if you can hit on just a couple of them, that changes things in a major way.
As far as AAA talent goes, you're mostly right. I think Loperfido is likely going to be a nice player- but other than that, they lack guys with truly high upside. Will Wagner is a decent player- but his most likely outcome is a utility infielder who will come off the bench. Some in the organization really like Dezenzo and he certainly has potential to be a good player, but he has a ways to go in a few areas. They're also pretty split on Jacob Melton. Some think he has 30/30 potential and others don't see the swing and miss going away. Kennedy Corona is elite defensively- but there's holes in his swing. On the pitching side, you have guys like Arrihgetti who has good stuff but will never be an ace. I see a solid #3 type of guy if things pan out. Gordon and Kouba are other guys who may contribute at some point but I don't see them ever being anything more than an average major leaguer at best.
This is a big reason why the Astros seriously considered moving Bregman over the offseason. I don't know what kind of prospects they could have landed since he only had one year left- but the plan was to move him for near major league ready prospects and sign Matt Chapman to play third this year.
The lower levels have a lot more guys with higher upside. Luiz Baez, Miguel Palma, Kenni Gomez are all kids who truly have superstar type talent.. but when you're talking about 18-21 year olds, there's really such a wide range of outcomes that it's difficult to project.
The lack of high upside guys in the minors is a big reason the Astros drafted the way they did last year. Brice Matthews (1st round pick) is one of the more raw players I can remember coming out of college. He's one of those guys who will either turn out to be an all-star caliber shortstop in the big leagues or never make the big leagues at all. Alonzo Treadwell (2nd round pick) is similar as well. He has all the potential in the world- but he's incredibly raw and there's no outcome that would surprise me. They're very high on a couple of the high school kids they drafted- but again, they're so young and difficult to project.
Not all of these guys will hit- in fact, most won't ever make it to the big leagues at all. But if you can hit on just a couple of them, that changes things in a major way.
Pretty much aligns with my understanding. I wonder if they will look into trading Framber or Tuck this offseason if they can't extend them. Framber specifically may make sense if JV is back and Garcia and LMC prove healthy when they come back.
Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
The year after cy young curse is undefeated
texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
Yikes for Gerrit. Hopefully noting serious for him personally.
I know I probably feel differently than most of yall on here, but aside from the hat issue after the WS loss, I don't have much ill will toward Gerrit. I think dude is a baller and I'd take him back in a heart beat.
Beat40 said:texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
Yikes for Gerrit. Hopefully noting serious for him personally.
I know I probably feel differently than most of yall on here, but aside from the hat issue after the WS loss, I don't have much ill will toward Gerrit. I think dude is a baller and I'd take him back in a heart beat.
I don't dislike him either. But I actually think this year's Yankee team could be salty … but not if they lose him
SIAP
Astros in ESPN's Top 100 players for 2024 (tied with Atlanta for the most with 8 total):
8. Alvarez
26. Altuve
28. Tucker
49. Bregman
50. Verlander
56. Valdez
61. Hader
88. Pena
Missed the cut but noted by one writer as deserving- Diaz
Seattle has three starters in the top 62, wow.
Others of note:
34. Adolis Garcia- LOL at the recency bias
45. Yamamoto- that's some major league projection
57. Cease- there's still time, Crane!
59. Snell- homeless
63. Montgomery- homeless
78. Correa
Astros in ESPN's Top 100 players for 2024 (tied with Atlanta for the most with 8 total):
8. Alvarez
26. Altuve
28. Tucker
49. Bregman
50. Verlander
56. Valdez
61. Hader
88. Pena
Missed the cut but noted by one writer as deserving- Diaz
Seattle has three starters in the top 62, wow.
Others of note:
34. Adolis Garcia- LOL at the recency bias
45. Yamamoto- that's some major league projection
57. Cease- there's still time, Crane!
59. Snell- homeless
63. Montgomery- homeless
78. Correa
tjack16 said:Beat40 said:texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
Yikes for Gerrit. Hopefully noting serious for him personally.
I know I probably feel differently than most of yall on here, but aside from the hat issue after the WS loss, I don't have much ill will toward Gerrit. I think dude is a baller and I'd take him back in a heart beat.
I don't dislike him either. But I actually think this year's Yankee team could be salty … but not if they lose him
If they do lose him, they'll go all in on one of the remaining boras clients
don't really care about the hat incident either,, was an emotional moment. who here has always acted perfectly in emotional moments?Beat40 said:texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
Yikes for Gerrit. Hopefully noting serious for him personally.
I know I probably feel differently than most of yall on here, but aside from the hat issue after the WS loss, I don't have much ill will toward Gerrit. I think dude is a baller and I'd take him back in a heart beat.
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Yeah, I've never held any grudge towards him either.
Final roll call for the Houston Astros in the fantasy story I ghostwrote last month
Paul Bako - Bako Szrada, patriarch of a powerful family
Joe Sambito - Sambito, main character's tutor
Bob Aspromonte - Great Uncle Aspro,
Chuckie Carr - Chuckar, main character's brother
Steve Lombardozzi - Dozzi, main character's brother
Tim Bogar - the Forest of Bogar
Rusty Staub - Staub, the main character's mount
Kaz Matsui - Kazma, a queen
Tony Eusebio - Euse, a month on the calendar
Jim Clancy - Clancy, a midwife
Scott Servais - Servais, captain of the guard
Mike Fiers - Lady Fiers, a small shrewish servant
Paul Bako - Bako Szrada, patriarch of a powerful family
Joe Sambito - Sambito, main character's tutor
Bob Aspromonte - Great Uncle Aspro,
Chuckie Carr - Chuckar, main character's brother
Steve Lombardozzi - Dozzi, main character's brother
Tim Bogar - the Forest of Bogar
Rusty Staub - Staub, the main character's mount
Kaz Matsui - Kazma, a queen
Tony Eusebio - Euse, a month on the calendar
Jim Clancy - Clancy, a midwife
Scott Servais - Servais, captain of the guard
Mike Fiers - Lady Fiers, a small shrewish servant
My feelings about Cole ... Loved him from 2018-2019 and thought that two year run was so incredible to watch. If Hinch had put him in at the top of the 7th with a 2-0 lead in game 7 then he'd be an absolute Houston legend.
Mad that he went to the Yankees but not mad that he did what was best for him. Hate the Yankees, indifferent now towards Cole.
Mad that he went to the Yankees but not mad that he did what was best for him. Hate the Yankees, indifferent now towards Cole.
Still a great pitcher but he's been a bit of a whiny *****. From the spyder tack to the getting into with batters showing him up to dealing with the NY media.
This. Talented pitcher no doubt, but also a little whiny thin-skinned *****.Farmer1906 said:
Still a great pitcher but he's been a bit of a whiny *****. From the spyder tack to the getting into with batters showing him up to dealing with the NY media.
Lets all welcome Snell to NY. The Boras waiting game worked here.texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
The Yankees won't give 2 ****s about paying Snell and going into the deeper end of the CBT pool.Farmer1906 said:Lets all welcome Snell to NY. The Boras waiting game worked here.texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
But what if that were us? Hypothetically, suppose JV was the one getting that MRI and it came up with a torn UCL and another TJ surgery. Would Crane do this and sign Snell? Or would he stay pat and roll out a kid?
I'm guessing he stays with the hand he has and waits until late June to see what happens.
Mathguy64 said:The Yankees won't give 2 ****s about paying Snell and going into the deeper end of the CBT pool.Farmer1906 said:Lets all welcome Snell to NY. The Boras waiting game worked here.texasaggie2015 said:Gerrit Cole is having an MRI of his right elbow today. Was not recovering as well this spring so checking him out. #Yankees
— David Lennon (@DPLennon) March 11, 2024
But what if that were us? Hypothetically, suppose JV was the one getting that MRI and it came up with a torn UCL and another TJ surgery. Would Crane do this and sign Snell? Or would he stay pat and roll out a kid?
I'm guessing he stays with the hand he has and waits until late June to see what happens.
That's a very interesting question.
Some comparable times was when Framber broke his finger & Graveman was done for the year. We signed Odo & Hader, quickly after. Maybe Crane would spend. I kind of like our pitching depth more than theirs. That unloaded some key arms to get Soto.
Farmer1906 said:
Still a great pitcher but he's been a bit of a whiny *****. From the spyder tack to the getting into with batters showing him up to dealing with the NY media.
This
The whiny bltching pissed me off more than him leaving for the Yanks.
Ag_07 said:Farmer1906 said:
Still a great pitcher but he's been a bit of a whiny *****. From the spyder tack to the getting into with batters showing him up to dealing with the NY media.
This
The whiny bltching pissed me off more than him leaving for the Yanks.
It wasn't that he left for the Yanks that pissed me off. It was the way he left.
How 30-seconds after we lost game 7 he wouldn't wear an Astros hat for post-game stuff and was basically out the door already and been an ass about it.
We get it, you're pissed that Hinch didn't put you in to close out the game on short-rest. That's fine and acceptable because I think a lot of us wanted that but it was a tactical error and nothing personal towards him. But Cole couldn't take a day or two to commiserate with his Astros teammates or at least until the post-game stuff was over.
And then his whiny behavior since being in NYC has been almost insufferable.
Great day for baseball.
Wabs said:This. Talented pitcher no doubt, but also a little whiny thin-skinned *****.Farmer1906 said:
Still a great pitcher but he's been a bit of a whiny *****. From the spyder tack to the getting into with batters showing him up to dealing with the NY media.
He can be my whiny thin-skinned ***** CY Young ance anytime.
Mathguy64 said:
The Yankees won't give 2 ****s about paying Snell and going into the deeper end of the CBT pool.
But what if that were us? Hypothetically, suppose JV was the one getting that MRI and it came up with a torn UCL and another TJ surgery. Would Crane do this and sign Snell? Or would he stay pat and roll out a kid?
I'm guessing he stays with the hand he has and waits until late June to see what happens.
Good question, and I'd be fine with Crane not going and getting Snell.
There are serious concerns wrt Snell, and he absolutely is not the sure-fire top of the rotation guy that deserves to get top-end $$$ IMO. He doesn't go deep in games, he walks a lot of batters, and he has been fairly inconsistent over his career. He is a big gamble for franchises that can't afford to give a massive contract to and have him be a bust.
No way Snell is worth top end money. Just doesn't do it year in and year out.
Begun, the Yainer ascendancy has...Only two innings in, but Framber Valdez has made some adjustments since his first outing. No PitchCome, Yainer Diaz is calling the game and he has four ground outs, two strikeouts with 22 pitches in two scoreless innings #Relentless
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nm. Already posted