***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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4:05p, 2/15/24
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Rob Manfred can't go away fast enough.
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In reply to MAROON • 4:13p, 2/15/24
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iamtheglove said:
The Porkchop Express said:
On a lighter note, I'm writing a short fantasy novella for a guy in Kuwait today and I'm using some obscure Astro names (first or last) to populate some of the minor characters. If anyone has a suggestion, please throw one out.



Roger Metzger, but you'll need to work into the plot that he only has 4 fingers on one hand
and also swallowed his tongue.


"Two hours before the start of the Astros' game against the Cubs, Metzger was running laps in the outfield when he crashed into pitcher Don Wilson, who was shagging flies and was running in quickly to catch a line drive.

The impact was so severe that Metzger was knocked unconscious and swallowed his tongue. Catcher Johnny Edwards recounted, "[H]e was turning grayish and his eyes had rolled where all you could see was white. He was making loud sounds down in his throat. It really scared you."1 Third baseman Doug Rader, who was also Metzger's roommate on the road, began to pound on the sides of Metzger's jaw in order to force his mouth open. Once Metzger's jaws were unlocked, Edwards reached in and pulled out his tongue, saying later, "Maybe it was lucky that I'm a catcher and had it happen once to me, so I knew what to do!""

I remember it as being during the game but I guess not.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 4:13p, 2/15/24
EastCoastAgNc said:

Rob Manfred can't go away fast enough.

Meh, I don't have a problem with them cracking down on obstruction. Fielders can't prevent the runner from getting to the base if they don't have the ball.
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In reply to TarponChaser • 4:18p, 2/15/24
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TarponChaser said:
EastCoastAgNc said:

Rob Manfred can't go away fast enough.

Meh, I don't have a problem with them cracking down on obstruction. Fielders can't prevent the runner from getting to the base if they don't have the ball.


Exactly…Manfred is a f'ing moron, but this is a good rule. I can't believe this hasn't been called in the past. Nothing worse than a fielder blocking a base when sliding in.
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In reply to MosesHallRAB04 • 4:34p, 2/15/24
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Farmer1906 said:
What pitching prospects do you think can fill in for DeGrom & Scherzer?

That will be without Garver who had a massive year. But they should have bats to replace him.



Maybe I'm wrong but it sure seemed like every offensive player had career years for them. Hopefully there's some regression to the mean there. They'll still be good offensively but hopefully there's a drop off.

And to be clear I'm not accusing them of anything. Just that it seemed like lightening striking across the entire offensive lineup.
Living in north Texas I REALLY hope they all had career years. My neighbors, who are all great in every other aspect of life (as far as I know) were just so f***ing obnoxious about it that I got flashbacks to college in the early 90's with cowboy fans and why I still root against them to this day.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:58p, 2/15/24
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Farmer1906 said:
What pitching prospects do you think can fill in for DeGrom & Scherzer?

That will be without Garver who had a massive year. But they should have bats to replace him.


Obviously no one is going to come up and give them that kind of production but we are only talking about 75 innings from last year. They have a couple high pedigree guys like Leiter and Winn that could help out but they need another legit starter for sure.
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7:36p, 2/15/24
Rumor is the Pads were sniffing around in Sal Frelick from the Brewers. That got me thinking something might be feasible there involving Pena and Adames as well. The Brewers have no SS prospect to replace Adames, who is a pending free agent. Adames is the kind of mid tier player I could see us resigning (he's only 28). Frelick is an elite level defensive CF who is a on base machine.
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In reply to MaxPower • 7:46p, 2/15/24
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I don't think Pena could net you Frelick just because of the years of control. You'd have to add a bunch of prospect capital to get Frelick & Adames. Then we'd have to spend semi big to keep Adames when you need to pay 1 of Bregman, Framber, & Tucker. It's an interest idea though.

Edit: or did you mean just target Adames? Pena would net him plus prospects.
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7:59p, 2/15/24
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Are we talking about the Frelick who's only played 1/3 of a season? Yeah that's a bit too early to be talking trading away MLB talent for him
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In reply to tjack16 • 8:08p, 2/15/24
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tjack16 said:
Are we talking about the Frelick who's only played 1/3 of a season? Yeah that's a bit too early to be talking trading away MLB talent for him


He was their #1 prospect and just showed an elite big league eye and gold glove level defense. Teams project.
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 10:01p, 2/15/24
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yeesh, 2029...that's a long time from now
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In reply to W • 10:05p, 2/15/24
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Praying for early retirement
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11:22p, 2/15/24
CJ Stroud is becoming one of my fav players, and I'm a Cowboys fan

No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 11:24p, 2/15/24
I agree with Boras. A free agency deadline is dumb.

The players are big boys. They can deal with the consequences. There is no way a big name fee agent is sitting out a year.

I've said it before Manfred isn't a visionary. He's an incremental change guy and is not going take baseball to where it needs to be to attract more eyeballs.
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11:28p, 2/15/24
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WooHOO! We'll be at the Mets game on Thursday the 29th and the Cards game on Saturday March 2nd!
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In reply to Ag_07 • 1:21a, 2/16/24
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GD Ryan Pressly may end up being one of my favorite Stros from this Golden Era.

IDGAF what inning it is...Just give me the ball and let me get outs.

What an absolute stud.


Love what a team guy Pressly is. Internally he has every right to feel hurt, but he isn't acting on that and is man enough to say and do the right things and go get the job done.

Being honest, I finally listened to Espada's explanation of why Hader got the closers role, and it was a little cringe to me. It was the right decision, but the explanation of why seemed a little insulting to Pressly to me. I wish he would have left it as this is what we think is best for the ballclub.
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In reply to SpaceCityAg05 • 8:40a, 2/16/24
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Lord Rhiner has come to life near the end of the book.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 8:56a, 2/16/24
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Please tell me Scott Servais is the antagonist.
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8:59a, 2/16/24
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Astros made this list twice, once in a good way, once in a bad way
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 9:14a, 2/16/24
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Mathguy64 said:
Please tell me Scott Servais is the antagonist.
Or at least the name of a cockroach.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 9:15a, 2/16/24
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I can't watch, but I imagine Beltran was the good one?

Nvm, I guess its a terrible trade that we benefited from.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 9:21a, 2/16/24
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Mathguy64 said:
Please tell me Scott Servais is the antagonist.
Unfortunately, the client went from wanting 50,000-60,000 words to 10,000 once I told him the price, so it's not exactly a rich tapestry of characters
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In reply to JDUB08AG • 9:26a, 2/16/24
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I can't watch, but I imagine Beltran was the good one?

Nvm, I guess its a terrible trade that we benefited from.

Terrible trade was getting Aubrey Huff from Tampa Bay for Talbot and Zobrist. Good trade was Anderson for Bageell
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9:34a, 2/16/24
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Verlander feels better about the farm than I do but I'm glad he's optimistic
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 9:35a, 2/16/24
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Verlander feels better about the farm than I do but I'm glad he's optimistic

Oh jeez...He's Bagwell 2.0
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9:36a, 2/16/24
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Doobie in the house.
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9:36a, 2/16/24
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Pumped we have Astros baseball next week. I'm a dork, but I've always loved watching Spring Training games. It's fun watching the kids who have worked so hard get a chance to audition in front of the big league club.
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9:39a, 2/16/24
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Watch the last rep.

Don't try and catch a ball with your bare pitching hand, Framber!
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9:39a, 2/16/24
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Everyone keeping an eye on the new guy. And of course JV had the golf cart.

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 9:40a, 2/16/24
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That's how we got Jake Odorizzi. He broke his finger trying to field a comebacker bare handed in spring training in 2021
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