***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]
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Farmer1906 said:
I like that less. Not because I think Soler isn't good, but he'll be more expensive & is right-handed. He, like Joc, fits the category of rental the Braves acquired in 2021. I fully expected both to be out of our price range. Maybe Crane is pushing his chips in for 2024. I a m not made about it.
Sign both and dominate either split
not my money. Spend that **** and lets win another. Also, I still want Bauer.
Deluxe said:Farmer1906 said:
I like that less. Not because I think Soler isn't good, but he'll be more expensive & is right-handed. He, like Joc, fits the category of rental the Braves acquired in 2021. I fully expected both to be out of our price range. Maybe Crane is pushing his chips in for 2024. I a m not made about it.
Sign both and dominate either split
I just hope Espada uses platoon players and matchups the way they should be used. The snapshot we saw in October says he will. What a refreshing change that will be.
And the obligatory "you'll thank me later..."
And the obligatory "you'll thank me later..."
to me IF they were to go after Soler it would signal that they have serious worries with Abreu struggling at the plate again.
I would prefer we not bet everything on 2024, we all know how postseason play is a crapshoot. One team will get there and be hot, and we hope it is us, but I'd rather get there multiple years with the 2nd 3rd or 4th best team than get there 1 year and roll the dice.
More so the health of his back which impacts his game.AustinCountyAg said:
to me IF they were to go after Soler it would signal that they have serious worries with Abreu struggling at the plate again.
Which to be honest, I've never known a single person with a back injury that didn't suffer from it the rest of their lives. So there's a good chance he could be on the way to a silver slugger title to throw out his back again and ride the bench for a month or 2.
Eso si, Que es said:
I would prefer we not bet everything on 2024, we all know how postseason play is a crapshoot. One team will get there and be hot, and we hope it is us, but I'd rather get there multiple years with the 2nd 3rd or 4th best team than get there 1 year and roll the dice.
From what I've seen it looks like he's going to invest heavily in 24 and 25. Looking at the rest of our pipeline that seems to be reasonable.
We look good in 26+ but not great. These next 2 years need to be maximized.
Silent For Too Long said:Eso si, Que es said:
I would prefer we not bet everything on 2024, we all know how postseason play is a crapshoot. One team will get there and be hot, and we hope it is us, but I'd rather get there multiple years with the 2nd 3rd or 4th best team than get there 1 year and roll the dice.
From what I've seen it looks like he's going to invest heavily in 24 and 25. Looking at the rest of our pipeline that seems to be reasonable.
We look good in 26+ but not great. These next 2 years need to be maximized.
I agree with what you're saying. But we still have some niiiice pieces. Javier, Brown, McCullers, Garcia, France, Alvarez, Abreu, Hader, Pena, McCormick, Diaz, and Dubon. That and 100+ M in FA/extensions along with anyone we trade for and bring up.
Former Astros pitcher Collin McHugh announced his retirement today. https://t.co/biImDUKSOx
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 22, 2024
EastCoastAgNc said:Former Astros pitcher Collin McHugh announced his retirement today. https://t.co/biImDUKSOx
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 22, 2024
In honor of one of the greatest Astros gifs of all time
SECcess12 said:EastCoastAgNc said:Former Astros pitcher Collin McHugh announced his retirement today. https://t.co/biImDUKSOx
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 22, 2024
In honor of one of the greatest Astros gifs of all time
In response to a player we got by giving up Hader. We've come full circle.
I would put McHugh in the wish we would've kept him around group with Uncle Chuck.
He had some really solid seasons out of the pen for TB and ATL that would've been really nice to have.
He had some really solid seasons out of the pen for TB and ATL that would've been really nice to have.
Joe Musgrove as well.Ag_07 said:
I would put McHugh in the wish we would've kept him around group with Uncle Chuck.
He had some really solid seasons out of the pen for TB and ATL that would've been really nice to have.
Yeah I'd have liked to keep him around but that's apples and oranges.
We traded Musgrove for Cole so hard to argue that one.
I was more referring to guys we let walk in FA.
We traded Musgrove for Cole so hard to argue that one.
I was more referring to guys we let walk in FA.
time is a flat circle.Prosperdick said:SECcess12 said:EastCoastAgNc said:Former Astros pitcher Collin McHugh announced his retirement today. https://t.co/biImDUKSOx
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 22, 2024
In honor of one of the greatest Astros gifs of all time
In response to a player we got by giving up Hader. We've come full circle.
His seasons are already pretty short
6 months and it's a non contact sport that pays you millions of dollars, but yes by all means, please shorten the season
tjack16 said:
His seasons are already pretty short
I think Anaheim has given collectively the worst contracts in baseball the last 20 years. Rendon is a clown
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
He plays about 40 out of 162 games a year so the philosophical question is would he play all 40 games in a hypothetical 40 game regular season schedule OR would he only play 10 because he's committed to missing 75% of the games?tjack16 said:
His seasons are already pretty short
What about Duvall? Dude crushed us last year. In fact that whole outfield that won Dana a title is currently available.Farmer1906 said:
I like that less. Not because I think Soler isn't good, but he'll be more expensive & is right-handed. He, like Joc, fits the category of rental the Braves acquired in 2021. I fully expected both to be out of our price range. Maybe Crane is pushing his chips in for 2024. I am not mad about it.
Fine. Cut the season by 20%. Then cut your contract by 20% too Anthony.tjack16 said:
His seasons are already pretty short
No? Yeah, thats what I thought.
Oldest of the group. Shouldn't be playing CF like Boston had him playing. Seems like a buy-high candidate. His underlying metrics show regression coming. That may be due to his pull-happy swing at the monster. Maybe it'll translate in MMP. He should be the cheapest of the bunch, but even so, he'd be a distant 3rd on my wish list of the 3.cc10106 said:What about Duvall? Dude crushed us last year. In fact that whole outfield that won Dana a title is currently available.Farmer1906 said:
I like that less. Not because I think Soler isn't good, but he'll be more expensive & is right-handed. He, like Joc, fits the category of rental the Braves acquired in 2021. I fully expected both to be out of our price range. Maybe Crane is pushing his chips in for 2024. I am not mad about it.
It is small sample size, but his career MMP numbers are insane, which might again reflect his approach with the Monster.
Duvall should only play CF as a depth measure at this point, but I do like that he is more platoon neutral (not weaker against RHP), UNLESS you specifically commit to platoon usage with an acquisition.
Duvall should only play CF as a depth measure at this point, but I do like that he is more platoon neutral (not weaker against RHP), UNLESS you specifically commit to platoon usage with an acquisition.
Soler? Sounds good
Man if Crane isn't done after Hader…
Man if Crane isn't done after Hader…
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/josh-hader-gives-the-astros-a-fearsome-bullpen/
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The top end of the Astros bullpen was already excellent. Ryan Pressly and Bryan Abreu would both be superlative closers in their own right. But now they'll end up as Hader's understudies, creating a fearsome three-headed monster to end games. No team in baseball can match that top trio. When they're all rested, games might feel like they're over after six innings.
...
So there you have it. A consistent playoff juggernaut gave a dominant closer a market-rate contract. There's nothing particularly wild or exciting about this deal, though I'm curious to see whether Hader relaxes his stance on multi-inning outings (strong dislike) now that he has a Scrooge McDuck pile of money. Whether he does or not, though, this move makes a lot of sense to me. If you expect to play in the playoffs, you might as well set your roster up for success ahead of time.
Quote:
No team in baseball can match that top trio. When they're all rested, games might feel like they're over after six innings.
Houston countered LA signing Godzilla with the King Ghidorah bullpen.
Source: the Astros have DFAd left-hander Matt Gage. They are expected to make the Josh Hader signing official pretty soon.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 22, 2024
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
I remember hearing him get interviewed on the radio this weekend during fanfest and getting asked what he thought about Hader getting signed. Awkward...bearkatag15 said:Source: the Astros have DFAd left-hander Matt Gage. They are expected to make the Josh Hader signing official pretty soon.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 22, 2024
Duvall? Sure though may be expensive.
Who's the next Duvall?
Who's the next Duvall?
The Houston Astros will host a Press Conference with Josh Hader, GM Dana Brown and Manger Joe Espada at 4pm today. Tune in on MLB Network, Astros Social Channels, or https://t.co/yJVJuhSuOp to watch.
— Houston Astros (@astros) January 22, 2024
Rome keeps asking questions to could be dangerous. "Are you willing to throw more than 3 outs?", "Have you reached out to Pressly yet?"
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