This time last year the Mets thought they had built a super team
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FrioAg 00 said:
This time last year the Mets thought they had built a super team
I'm not sure the Mets ever had a lineup remotely close to what the Dodgers have put together though
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Mr.Bond said:FrioAg 00 said:
This time last year the Mets thought they had built a super team
I'm not sure the Mets ever had a lineup remotely close to what the Dodgers have put together though
Everyone was pretty hyped about Nimmo, Lindor, Correa, Alonso, McNeil, Marte, Canha, & Vogelbach.
Same with the Padres. A 1-4 of Soto, Tatis, Machado, & Boegarts was supposed to be unstoppable.
They're planning on 2025 or 2026. It all depends on what happens this year. If they take a step back, they very well might start the rebuild in 2025 from what I've been told.tjack16 said:
I'd say mini-rebuild in 2026 post-Tucker, Pressly, JV and Framber. So either barely miss or an ALDS/WC exit.
That is assuming we don't extend Bregman, Tucker and Framber
But we're not taking a step back. The 2024 Astros are loaded. We're too spoiled to see it.
Examining Jim Crane’s history with the luxury tax and how it may explain the Astros’ quiet offseason - https://t.co/fnRijWlDn7
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 13, 2023
FrioAg 00 said:
This time last year the Mets thought they had built a super team
And Padres
And Angels (evergreen)
Anyone have a cliff's notes?
Teddy Perkins said:
Anyone have a cliff's notes?
Crane is a tightwad
Nevermind, found it on archive.ph. Looks like Chandler is once again talking directly to this thread.
Quote:
Calling Crane cheap is ill-informed. He does not spend freely, but has carried a payroll (as calculated for luxury tax purposes) in excess of $203 million in every season since 2019. The club came within $3 million of exceeding the luxury tax threshold in both 2019 and 2021.
I mean, it shouldn't be a question for those of us that are more than casual fans.Teddy Perkins said:
Nevermind, found it on archive.ph. Looks like Chandler is once again talking directly to this thread.Quote:
Calling Crane cheap is ill-informed. He does not spend freely, but has carried a payroll (as calculated for luxury tax purposes) in excess of $203 million in every season since 2019. The club came within $3 million of exceeding the luxury tax threshold in both 2019 and 2021.
When he bought the team, the 2012 payroll was third to lowest in baseball.
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Houston Astros
$60,651,000
Now we're projected to be 6th highest in baseball for 2024.
RANK TEAM TOTAL PAYROLL
1 Mets $223,901,859
2 Phillies $223,092,617
3 Yankees $202,973,333
4 Braves $196,410,000
5 Rangers $191,880,000
6 Astros $188,148,141
https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/mlb/mlb-teams-highest-payrolls-2023-bm15/
Take this with a grain of salt
Astros have been involved in talks with Lourdes Gurriel Jr #sources
— MIKA (@mikaylaa_cm) December 13, 2023
Lol
I don’t have sources I am just trying to speak it into existence #manifestation
— MIKA (@mikaylaa_cm) December 13, 2023
Hey I said take with a grain of salt lol
I actually know her well. She's just having fun and likes to troll.
All the "sky is falling" Astros fans (not here) are gonna be eating crow next year. Some folks just want to be miserable.Farmer1906 said:
But we're not taking a step back. The 2024 Astros are loaded. We're too spoiled to see it.
She's still a more trusted source than Heyman
BREAKING 🚨: Jose Altuve signs 10-year, $800M contract extension with the Astros with the entire amount deferred until 2075.
— FAX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFAX) December 13, 2023
"This way, the Astros can spend more on other players," Altuve told Fax Sports.
"I wouldn't selfishly ask for them to pay me $2 million a year." pic.twitter.com/IZScHHo761
Build the statue now!
From last March: Forbes: Baseball's Most Valuable Teams 2023: Price Tags Are Up 12% Despite Regional TV Woes
Overall Franchise Values:
Are the Rangers getting a lot more from their TV contract b/c of the whole Astros network snafu that happened years ago?
Overall Franchise Values:
According to the article, the Rangers get $111MM from Bally Sports with a 2022 avg household viewership of 21,000. The Astros receive $73MM with 109,000 avh household viewers.Quote:
#11. $2,250 M
Houston Astros
One-Year Change: 14% | Owner: Jim Crane | Operating Income: $44.3 M
#12. $2,225 M
Texas Rangers
One-Year Change: 9% | Owner: Ray Davis | Operating Income: $58.1 M
Are the Rangers getting a lot more from their TV contract b/c of the whole Astros network snafu that happened years ago?
That 111 M ain't happening. Bally is folding. (Folded?)
One more year. It is believed they were owed $111M for 2023... remains to be seen for '24.Farmer1906 said:
That 111 M ain't happening. Bally is folding. (Folded?)
ETA: Sorry, owed, not paid! Who knows what they got last year and will get for next year.
Lol, how are the Yankees valued at $7.1B when their operating income is $16.3MM? I have to be missing something hereNoble07 said:
From last March: Forbes: Baseball's Most Valuable Teams 2023: Price Tags Are Up 12% Despite Regional TV Woes
Overall Franchise Values:According to the article, the Rangers get $111MM from Bally Sports with a 2022 avg household viewership of 21,000. The Astros receive $73MM with 109,000 avh household viewers.Quote:
#11. $2,250 M
Houston Astros
One-Year Change: 14% | Owner: Jim Crane | Operating Income: $44.3 M
#12. $2,225 M
Texas Rangers
One-Year Change: 9% | Owner: Ray Davis | Operating Income: $58.1 M
Are the Rangers getting a lot more from their TV contract b/c of the whole Astros network snafu that happened years ago?
Most of it is goodwill.
This spring, the best prospects from every MLB team are going to play a game against another team's top minor leaguers at a big league spring training stadium, sources tell ESPN
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 13, 2023
The event is called Spring Breakout. And the details on it are free at ESPN: https://t.co/xbSj9XJDfc
If MLB makes this easy to view, it could be pretty fun. But, it's MLB, so it won't.texasaggie2015 said:This spring, the best prospects from every MLB team are going to play a game against another team's top minor leaguers at a big league spring training stadium, sources tell ESPN
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 13, 2023
The event is called Spring Breakout. And the details on it are free at ESPN: https://t.co/xbSj9XJDfc
bigjag19 said:
I hear a rumor that the Dodgers are after the ghost of Lou Gehrig. Will play for same salary he did when alive.
And still defer 90%.
We should go after the cryogenically frozen body of Ted Williams. I have no idea if that is actually true but I've always heard it was. Probably freezer burned by now though.
Twisted Helix said:bigjag19 said:
I hear a rumor that the Dodgers are after the ghost of Lou Gehrig. Will play for same salary he did when alive.
And still defer 90%.
We should go after the cryogenically frozen body of Ted Williams. I have no idea if that is actually true but I've always heard it was. Probably freezer burned by now though.
I believe it's his head not his whole body.
The Arlington deal was done much more recently than the Astros deal. Generally new regional rights deals continued to rise on a yearly basis until about 4 years ago.Noble07 said:
From last March: Forbes: Baseball's Most Valuable Teams 2023: Price Tags Are Up 12% Despite Regional TV Woes
Overall Franchise Values:According to the article, the Rangers get $111MM from Bally Sports with a 2022 avg household viewership of 21,000. The Astros receive $73MM with 109,000 avh household viewers.Quote:
#11. $2,250 M
Houston Astros
One-Year Change: 14% | Owner: Jim Crane | Operating Income: $44.3 M
#12. $2,225 M
Texas Rangers
One-Year Change: 9% | Owner: Ray Davis | Operating Income: $58.1 M
Are the Rangers getting a lot more from their TV contract b/c of the whole Astros network snafu that happened years ago?
Mathguy64 said:Twisted Helix said:bigjag19 said:
I hear a rumor that the Dodgers are after the ghost of Lou Gehrig. Will play for same salary he did when alive.
And still defer 90%.
We should go after the cryogenically frozen body of Ted Williams. I have no idea if that is actually true but I've always heard it was. Probably freezer burned by now though.
I believe it's his head not his whole body.
So still has his eye
Not a great start for the new Houston writer.
So when do you start respecting the “cheater” that soon will be the reason your bills are being paid? Astros fans are anxious to hear your rebuttal. pic.twitter.com/bq0h0sckPY
— Audrey (@audreypants24) December 14, 2023
And here's her Facebook.
What lasted longer:Farmer1906 said:
Not a great start for the new Houston writer.So when do you start respecting the “cheater” that soon will be the reason your bills are being paid? Astros fans are anxious to hear your rebuttal. pic.twitter.com/bq0h0sckPY
— Audrey (@audreypants24) December 14, 2023
1. Arson Judge to Giants
2. Correa to Mets
3. Correa to Giants
4. Leah Vann as the Astros beat writer
Edit to add
5. Whoever was supposed to vet the new writer and check her SM accounts
Are we sure she's the beat writer? What is "sports culture" reporter?
Pahdz said:
Are we sure she's the beat writer? What is "sports culture" reporter?
The same thing Lainey used to be
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