***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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LOL

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EastCoastAgNc said:



What a terrible GM they have



No way a GM should ever say this..... but we all know he's not wrong
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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Farmer1906 said:

I guess that is all who were protecting.


Remind me, if they're selected don't we have an opportunity to add them? Or is it just that if they dont stick on a roster they have to be offered back to us before they can be sent to the minors
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That's cool, as they play for each other's home town team.
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Mr.Bond said:

EastCoastAgNc said:



What a terrible GM they have



No way a GM should ever say this..... but we all know he's not wrong


I think at this point he is just trying to get fired
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Pretty sure if someone gets picked they have to stay on the big league roster all year. Our own Ryan Pressly is probably the best Rule 5 pick of all time.
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But if they don't they're offered back to us right? If we decline then the other team can send them to their minors.
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That sounds right.
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AgSportsFan89 said:

Mr.Bond said:

EastCoastAgNc said:



What a terrible GM they have



No way a GM should ever say this..... but we all know he's not wrong


I think at this point he is just trying to get fired



Next thing you know, he'll be dragging a World Series trophy off the back of his car like George Costanza.
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They go on the 26-man roster and hit waivers if removed other than for IL. If they clear waivers, then the original team can buy them back. If original team doesn't, then the player can be sent to minors.
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Is TK's wife an Aggie? Spotted them at the SMU game
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Farmer1906 said:

Pretty sure if someone gets picked they have to stay on the big league roster all year. Our own Ryan Pressly is probably the best Rule 5 pick of all time.


Johan Santana was a Rule 5 pick

ETA: he was taken from...the Houston Astros
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At first, I thought maybe he was there as a friend of Buzz, but the game was in Dallas so who knows
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Farmer1906 said:

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Mathguy64 said:

If Dubon is getting 500 + PAs again this season either we are being run by Dusty 2.0 or there are major injuries again.
I think you're being naive if you don't' think he doesn't get 2/3 of a season worth of starts between left, center, short stop, and second base to spell guys days off. Especially if Pena doesn't pull his head out of his behind. There's no reason to have the utility gold glover on the roster otherwise.
This kind of comment confuses me.

2023 Stats

Dubon
.278 BA
.309 OBP
.411 SLG
.311 wOBA
.302 xwOBA
97 wRC+

Pena
.263 BA
.324 OBP
.381 SLG
.310 wOBA
.302 xwOBA
96 wRC+


They were the same guy offensively. Pena is clearly better defensively at SS. Who do you think will be better moving forward? The 26-year-old who has shown flashes of brilliance over (see 2022 postseason) or the 29-year-old who has a career WAR of 3.3 after 5 seasons?


Edit:

Here is how I see Dubon's role:
  • spot starts when Pena, Altuve, or Bregman need a day off (shares this role with Kessinger)
  • plays CF/LF vs LHP when Yordan isn't in the OF (shares this role with Meyers)
  • PH vs LHP
  • Defensive Sub late (share role with Myers)

The goal should be ~225 PA with the majority of them being vs LHP.


Y Dubon had a solid season. But he's at best a role player utility guy. Not an everyday player in a great lineup
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TAM looks good on TK
BadAggie
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Random, makes me like the dude even more.
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BadAggie said:

Random, makes me like the dude even more.
You are gonna really love him when he signs a $10M per year contract to be the new Aggie football coach
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astros4545 said:

BadAggie said:

Random, makes me like the dude even more.
You are gonna really love him when he signs a $10M per year contract to be the new Aggie football coach

Nothing would surprise me. Kinda interesting that's the style hat Jimbo usually wore on the sidelines.
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lol at mystery team. Do they even Texags?
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He not worth 100 M. Pass.
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Farmer1906 said:




Lol nothing like raising the specter of the Astros for a free agent to get a bump.
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Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??
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Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??


People are speculating he'll get something similar to Diaz's 5/100.
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CFTXAG10 said:

No-brainer. All thats missing now is an NBA team. If the Warriors hadn't had their run they might have been following the Raiders and A's too


To be fair, the Warriors technically moved over to San Fran and are no longer in Oakland either
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Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??


People are speculating he'll get something similar to Diaz's 5/100.
Damn that is steep. But somebody will do it. Just hope it ain't us.
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Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??


People are speculating he'll get something similar to Diaz's 5/100.
Damn that is steep. But somebody will do it. Just hope it ain't us.


With our payroll, I don't think you have to worry. We're going to have to do things cheaply this offseason. It's not like we can unload Altuve, Bregman, Abreu, McCullers, or JV (top 5 is $$ this seasons).
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Farmer1906 said:

This interesting.






So, going back to this... the Astros only added Corona (#11 prospect in the Astros system according to MLB). Somewhat surprised that Hensley, Kessinger, Souza, Kuhnel, and Ortega were all protected over at least one of Arrighetti, Loperfido, Whitcomb, and Dezenzo. We'll see.

Maybe the league will assume the Astros have nothing of value since the system rankings always say they suck.
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Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??


People are speculating he'll get something similar to Diaz's 5/100.
Damn that is steep. But somebody will do it. Just hope it ain't us.


With our payroll, I don't think you have to worry. We're going to have to do things cheaply this offseason. It's not like we can unload Altuve, Bregman, Abreu, McCullers, or JV (top 5 is $$ this seasons).


Hadn't thought of this... you think anyone would take McCullers just as a salary dump? It would be a big risk since he could always come back and dominate, and maybe a stupid thought, but it's not like he has been of much value since throwing 30 straight curveballs to beat the Dodgers back in '17.

Just a thought exercise... don't dogpile! Haha.

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Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??


People are speculating he'll get something similar to Diaz's 5/100.
Damn that is steep. But somebody will do it. Just hope it ain't us.


With our payroll, I don't think you have to worry. We're going to have to do things cheaply this offseason. It's not like we can unload Altuve, Bregman, Abreu, McCullers, or JV (top 5 is $$ this seasons).


1. Replace Dusty with Espada.
2. Start Diaz.
3. Abreu reverts to career averages
4. Rest, recovery for Framber and Javier
5. LFer in free agency
6. Mitigate bullpen departures in FA

Best possible FA offensive acquisition is Abreu getting his shtt together next season.

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Marvin said:

Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

Wabs said:

Farmer1906 said:

He not worth 100 M. Pass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....$100M? For how many years??


People are speculating he'll get something similar to Diaz's 5/100.
Damn that is steep. But somebody will do it. Just hope it ain't us.


With our payroll, I don't think you have to worry. We're going to have to do things cheaply this offseason. It's not like we can unload Altuve, Bregman, Abreu, McCullers, or JV (top 5 is $$ this seasons).


Hadn't thought of this... you think anyone would take McCullers just as a salary dump? It would be a big risk since he could always come back and dominate, and maybe a stupid thought, but it's not like he has been of much value since throwing 30 straight curveballs to beat the Dodgers back in '17.

Just a thought exercise... don't dogpile! Haha.


It would be selling low and I doubt many teams would take on 51 M without knowing how Lance is going to bounce back. I would say that isn't a feasible direction.
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Marvin said:

Farmer1906 said:

This interesting.






So, going back to this... the Astros only added Corona (#11 prospect in the Astros system according to MLB). Somewhat surprised that Hensley, Kessinger, Souza, Kuhnel, and Ortega were all protected over at least one of Arrighetti, Loperfido, Whitcomb, and Dezenzo. We'll see.

Maybe the league will assume the Astros have nothing of value since the system rankings always say they suck.
Keep in mind most of those guys aren't eligibile for the Rule 5 Draft. Per Climbing Tals Hill, here who is.


Quote:

Astros prospects eligible for the Rule 5 draft
Colin Barber (No. 8)
Kenedy Corona (No. 11)
Justin Dirden (No. 14)
Miguel Palma (No. 17)
Zach Daniels (No. 19)
Shay Whitcomb (No. 25)
Jaime Melendez (No. 27)
Misael Tamarez (No. 30)

Barber & Daniels are a little worrisome, but he just cracked AA last year so he should be safe.

Dirden may go but I won't miss his fatass.

Whitcomb is probably the main one to watch.
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all those curveballs in a row where against the yankees.
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