Last nights home plate ump was a top rated one.

The Porkchop Express said:

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You guys can talk about anything you want to. I just maintain my opinion that our fans are no better or worse than any other franchise's fans.

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Obviously. I think everyone with an IQ above soft butter understands that few fanbases stand apart from others.

I've found that St. Louis generally has knowledgeable and friendly fans while Philly has some of the worst. I'd add Seattle to the latter, but that was just one experience and may not be the full picture. Aside from that, everyone else is sort of the same mishmash. Mrs. Marvin and I have been to over half the ballparks in the past seven years and those are the only three that stand out. LSU probably deserves to be on the naughty list as well, if speaking about other leagues.

That said, I will still laugh at the fringe lunatics.

Is that Gal Gadot??? I'd gladly let Wonder Woman kill my be snu snu

vbl said:

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I have been posting on the wrong thread. A thousand ****ing pardons guys.
And you're wrong Mathguy. F1 is cool.

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Serious question... is it really all that interesting when one guy wins 15 races and the next closest driver only has 2? Second place in the driver standings is closer to dead last than first. How can that be fun to follow?

Why waste time watching all the races when you can get the entire season run down with highlights, storylines, and end results by watching F1 Drive to Survive?

Seriously

Did you know Francisco Lindor is really in to F1 racing?

F1?

how far we've fallen

Been way too pissed off to check into this thread or the season one until just now.

Marvin said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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You guys can talk about anything you want to. I just maintain my opinion that our fans are no better or worse than any other franchise's fans.

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Obviously. I think everyone with an IQ above soft butter understands that few fanbases stand apart from others.

I've found that St. Louis generally has knowledgeable and friendly fans while Philly has some of the worst. I'd add Seattle to the latter, but that was just one experience and may not be the full picture. Aside from that, everyone else is sort of the same mishmash. Mrs. Marvin and I have been to over half the ballparks in the past seven years and those are the only three that stand out. LSU probably deserves to be on the naughty list as well, if speaking about other leagues.

That said, I will still laugh at the fringe lunatics.

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tceh is rather bad, the LSU of the high plains.

JABQ04 said:

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Back from My 2 week ban from Game 1 of the ALCS!

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Two weeks? For what?!

Marvin said:

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JABQ04 said:

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Back from My 2 week ban from Game 1 of the ALCS!

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Two weeks? For what?!

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Pr0n blast?

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Marvin said:

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JABQ04 said:

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Back from My 2 week ban from Game 1 of the ALCS!

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Two weeks? For what?!

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Pr0n blast?

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Nope. No pron. got me for some of the language I used against the fans of the ball club up north. Emailed about it and told nope. Guess I crossed a line. Oh well.

A handful of Alex Verdugo trade articles popped up over the last few days, but I think it mainly stems from the MLB Trade Rumors one.

Looking For A Match In An Alex Verdugo Trade

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Red Sox outfielder Alex Verdugo saw his name floated around the trade deadline as a potential trade candidate, and though no trade ultimately came together, it's worth noting that the club did field interest from clubs including both the Yankees and Astros regarding Verdugo at the deadline. With new chief baseball officer Craig Breslow now in place, the club's focus figures to turn toward the offseason proper, and Verdugo once again makes sense as a trade candidate.

After all, the club has plenty of quality outfield options. Masataka Yoshida is entrenched in left field after a strong first stateside campaign, while the likes of Jarren Duran, Wilyer Abreu, and Ceddanne Rafaela all represent solid young outfield options that the Red Sox have previously expressed belief in. Of that quartet, only Rafaela bats right-handed, so Verdugo's presence does little to balance out the club's heavily left-handed outfield mix. With just one year of team control remaining before Verdugo hits free agency, the 27-year-old sticks out as a prime trade candidate for a Boston club looking to pull itself back into contention after back-to-back last place finishes in the AL East.

That's not to say Verdugo isn't a quality player in his own right, of course. He's been a roughly league average bat in each of the past three seasons, slashing .278/.334/.417 with a wRC+ of 102 since the start of the 2021 campaign. He paired that average offensive with above-average defense in right field this year, as he posted a solid +1 Outs Above Average alongside a more impressive +9 Defensive Runs Saved. Only Fernando Tatis Jr. had a higher DRS in right field this year, per Fielding Bible.


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Best Fits:

• Astros: Houston was one of the teams linked to the Red Sox at the trade deadline, and it's easy to see why given the club's desire to acquire a left-handed outfielder to complement Jake Meyers and Chas McCormick, given the uncertain health situation of veteran Michael Brantley at the time. It stands to reason that the club's interest in Verdugo would continue into this offseason, with Brantley set to hit free agency and leave an opening in the club's left field mix. Verdugo would provide quality defense in left field and complement the right-handed bats of McCormick and Meyers alongside fellow lefty Kyle Tucker, who figures to play every day in right.

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Verdugo has been an everyday player, but his numbers dictate he should be heavily platooned for.

wRC+ vs LHP / RHP
2021 - 47 / 106
2022 - 94 / 102
2023 - 67 / 98

He doesn't exactly jump off the page, but he should be fairly cheap to trade for and only cost around 9 M for 2024.

Farmer1906 said:

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A handful of Alex Verdugo trade articles popped up over the last few days, but I think it mainly stems from the MLB Trade Rumors one.

Looking For A Match In An Alex Verdugo Trade

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Red Sox outfielder Alex Verdugo saw his name floated around the trade deadline as a potential trade candidate, and though no trade ultimately came together, it's worth noting that the club did field interest from clubs including both the Yankees and Astros regarding Verdugo at the deadline. With new chief baseball officer Craig Breslow now in place, the club's focus figures to turn toward the offseason proper, and Verdugo once again makes sense as a trade candidate.

After all, the club has plenty of quality outfield options. Masataka Yoshida is entrenched in left field after a strong first stateside campaign, while the likes of Jarren Duran, Wilyer Abreu, and Ceddanne Rafaela all represent solid young outfield options that the Red Sox have previously expressed belief in. Of that quartet, only Rafaela bats right-handed, so Verdugo's presence does little to balance out the club's heavily left-handed outfield mix. With just one year of team control remaining before Verdugo hits free agency, the 27-year-old sticks out as a prime trade candidate for a Boston club looking to pull itself back into contention after back-to-back last place finishes in the AL East.

That's not to say Verdugo isn't a quality player in his own right, of course. He's been a roughly league average bat in each of the past three seasons, slashing .278/.334/.417 with a wRC+ of 102 since the start of the 2021 campaign. He paired that average offensive with above-average defense in right field this year, as he posted a solid +1 Outs Above Average alongside a more impressive +9 Defensive Runs Saved. Only Fernando Tatis Jr. had a higher DRS in right field this year, per Fielding Bible.


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Best Fits:

• Astros: Houston was one of the teams linked to the Red Sox at the trade deadline, and it's easy to see why given the club's desire to acquire a left-handed outfielder to complement Jake Meyers and Chas McCormick, given the uncertain health situation of veteran Michael Brantley at the time. It stands to reason that the club's interest in Verdugo would continue into this offseason, with Brantley set to hit free agency and leave an opening in the club's left field mix. Verdugo would provide quality defense in left field and complement the right-handed bats of McCormick and Meyers alongside fellow lefty Kyle Tucker, who figures to play every day in right.

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Verdugo has been an everyday player, but his numbers dictate he should be heavily platooned for.

wRC+ vs LHP / RHP
2021 - 47 / 106
2022 - 94 / 102
2023 - 67 / 98

He doesn't exactly jump off the page, but he should be fairly cheap to trade for and only cost around 9 M for 2024.

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Do not want Verdugo

Glasnow is more interesting to me. He's due $25M in his last year before free agency so thought is Rays may move him to save money. They plan to increase payroll but they're set for a record high with him. Other teams will be in on him but we may be able to offer a more creative package. Maybe you trade them Framber and get back Glasnow and a few other pieces (Lowe?). We lose a year of control and Glasnow cost more but it allows us to fill other holes and not have to worry about which Framber is going to show up.

Let's say our future manager understands what a platoon is.

How would this platoon work? Vs LHP chas in LF and Meyers in CF assuming meyers also doesn't get traded? Or would the goal be to go find another RH bat to compliment him as a LFer.

But is Glasnow a head case like Framber? I doubt Glasnow would have caved like Framber did in the playoffs. I know he didnt have the best outing this year but I am over wondering if we're gonna get good Framber or BSC Framber

MaxPower said:

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Glasnow is more interesting to me. He's due $25M in his last year before free agency so thought is Rays may move him to save money. They plan to increase payroll but they're set for a record high with him. Other teams will be in on him but we may be able to offer a more creative package. Maybe you trade them Framber and get back Glasnow and a few other pieces (Lowe?). We lose a year of control and Glasnow cost more but it allows us to fill other holes and not have to worry about which Framber is going to show up.

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Seems unnecessarily risky. You could derail this dynasty run in the first game Glasnow pitches if he blows his arm out. How many innings has he even thrown since the start of 2019?

Chrundle the Great said:

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Let's say our future manager understands what a platoon is.

How would this platoon work? Vs LHP chas in LF and Meyers in CF assuming meyers also doesn't get traded? Or would the goal be to go find another RH bat to compliment him as a LFer.

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Either way works.

Dubon is much better vs LHP too so you could go with him over Meyers if you so chose or if he's not around.

We were 3rd best in baseball vs LHP (122 wRC+) behind only ATL & SDP so you may not need to go get another RHH.

What would you do with Meyers this year?

1) Continue to work him into the regular OF rotation

2) Keep him around as cheap depth/insurance

3) Work the phones and see if there's a decent arm or prospect we could deal him for

Fair point. Either way I am still done with Framber and him being a headcase. I am not saying he needs to be repalced but maybe move him down the rotation to 3/4 and move Garcia or LMC up if they're healthy. If JP or HB can show they can be solid starter I'd like them to move into the 2 spot as well