***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

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MaxPower said:

Well we need some RP. I'd guess Matt Moore on a 2 year $15M kind of deal. Might trade an Urquidy to free up some money, plus we could use a prospect or two.

Finding a way to package Montero in a deal would be critical to making some salary room
Somebody just needs to get Crane drunk on some high end bourbon (cough Jim Flores cough) and learn how to spend some more money.
The luxury tax isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. The only real penalties are when you go way over.
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Farmer1906 said:

PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

MaxPower said:

Well we need some RP. I'd guess Matt Moore on a 2 year $15M kind of deal. Might trade an Urquidy to free up some money, plus we could use a prospect or two.

Finding a way to package Montero in a deal would be critical to making some salary room
Somebody just needs to get Crane drunk on some high end bourbon (cough Jim Flores cough) and learn how to spend some more money.
The luxury tax isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. The only real penalties are when you go way over.

That's what I'm saying. Going out and making a couple decent moves and going over a bit for another deep run I'm all for. I'd offer Nerris for sure
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Not to mention whether he will be ok has nothing to do with whether he will do it.

Potential Yankees deal: Abreu, Chas and Urquidy for Rizzo, King and Trevino. Yanks need a CF and SP depth. Rizzo saves money in 2025, King is a very good RP / swing man and Trevino is a very good defensive catcher who hits lefties well.
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While I don't disagree with your premise, I think it'll be a cold day in hell before the Yankees trade with the Astros.
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Apparently we need to get Will Smith back. He's the key to winning a World Series. The baseball version of Robert (no disrespect to big shot Bob since he actually contributed)and Horry looks like the other Will Smith.
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That's gotta hurt worse than the punch he took to the face
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That was an easy call. He was SS Maldonado.
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He was one of my faves all the way from before the Field of Dreams game through the WBC. What a dramatic fall.
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If we can't get Hader, I want Hicks. He's like a harder throwing Abreu with a change up.
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Doesn't he have some serious control issues though?
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Sports has sucked since October 23
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A&M football today was like the 2023 Astros

Offense finally got going, but defense didn't show up. And vice versa
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I would rather have Hicks than Hader anyways. Hader will take too insane of a contact, and unlike Hader, Hicks can neatly slide behind Pressly.
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Beau Holder said:

Doesn't he have some serious control issues though?
Not sure. His BB% was similar Neris, slightly worse than Abreu. Better than Hader's.


I think we can handle a few walks with blood-red savant pages.


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maca1028 said:

Sports has sucked since October 23
kinda sucked all year


-A&M basketball gets 1st rounded in March Madness
-A&M baseball was preseason Top 5 and we barely make a regional.
- Astros were off all year bc of injuries etc.
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stoneca said:

maca1028 said:

Sports has sucked since October 23
kinda sucked all year


-A&M basketball gets 1st rounded in March Madness
-A&M baseball was preseason Top 5 and we barely make a regional.
- Astros were off all year bc of injuries etc.

All 3 made the tournament. That is a success by most standards.
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stoneca said:

maca1028 said:

Sports has sucked since October 23
kinda sucked all year


-A&M basketball gets 1st rounded in March Madness
-A&M baseball was preseason Top 5 and we barely make a regional.
- Astros were off all year bc of injuries etc.



2022 was so much more fun

- Aggie baseball made CWS semis
- Astros won WS
- Men's basketball at least had a fun month run in the SEC before getting jobbed by the committee
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I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Marvin said:

I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!

I mean Astros around 2010-2014 were way worse than the Aggies are now….
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Marvin said:

I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!


I wouldn't be angry but this is the most talent we've had in football in a LONG time. Facilities in place, recruits in place, fan support, etc.
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htxag09 said:

Marvin said:

I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!

I mean Astros around 2010-2014 were way worse than the Aggies are now….
True but you knew we sucked. Expectations were low. The Ags should be good yet we're average.
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Farmer1906 said:

htxag09 said:

Marvin said:

I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!

I mean Astros around 2010-2014 were way worse than the Aggies are now….
True but you knew we sucked. Expectations were low. The Ags should be good yet we're average.

Fair. I did enjoy having several free unused tickets to choose from and easy parking, stadium access.
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I'm seriously starting to think this program (Aggie football) is just cursed and never meant to be anything.
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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All I do is Nguyen said:

I'm seriously starting to think this program (Aggie football) is just cursed and never meant to be anything.


Welcome to the club. If you need any tips, I've been here a while.
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/09/previewing-the-2023-24-free-agent-class-righty-relievers.html


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High-Leverage/Potential Setup Arms


Hicks is both the youngest and hardest-throwing name on this year's bullpen market. The Cardinals couldn't seem to make up their mind whether they wanted him to be a starter or reliever, but he's having his best year to date in the latter of those two roles. In 63 2/3 innings between the Cards and Blue Jays, Hicks has logged a 3.11 ERA with a 28.8% strikeout rate, 10.9% walk rate and massive 58.5% ground-ball rate. His strikeouts are down to a roughly average 23.5% since being traded, but his 7.1% walk rate since the trade would also be a career-best.

Hicks' typical 100 mph sinker has dropped to an average of, ahem, "only" 99.3 mph with the Jays after sitting at 100.7 mph in St. Louis prior to the swap. It's still absolutely overpowering velocity, and the dip in heat feels like a worthwhile trade-off if he can keep his command at this level, especially since his ground-ball rate remains unchanged. Hicks only just turned 27 this month, so even a three-year deal would conclude just weeks after he turns 30.

He's already had Tommy John surgery, so there's some injury risk, but his unrivaled youth and power arsenal will serve him well. Hicks will be among the top three to four options on the market this year.



Lopez, 30 in January, doesn't miss the "hardest-throwing" distinction among this year's class by much. The longtime White Sox hurler has averaged 98.4 mph on his heater in 2023 and is in his third straight season with a mid-3.00s ERA (or better). In 64 frames spread across the Sox, Angels and Guardians, Lopez has a 3.38 ERA, 30.1% strikeout rate and 12.4% walk rate. That strikeout rate is the best of his career, but Lopez's walk rate is more than double the 5% at which it sat in 2021-22 combined.

Somewhat interestingly, Lopez has done his best work of the season since being claimed by Cleveland, where he's throwing his changeup more than twice as much as he did with the ChiSox. Perhaps that's small sample noise or perhaps it's a recipe for success. Regardless, a 30-year-old righty who sits 98-99, regularly hits triple digits, and boasts a 3.18 ERA over his past three seasons and 187 innings isn't going to lack interest. Lopez is going to get a multi-year deal likely at a premium annual rate.



Stephenson has gone from unheralded journeyman acquisition to high-octane arm within a manner of months. He owned a 5.14 ERA in 14 appearances for the Pirates when he was dealt to the Rays for infielder Alika Williams in a June 2 trade. Since landing in Tampa Bay, he's been one of the best relievers on the planet.

Over 36 1/3 frames as a Ray, Stephenson carries a 2.48 ERA. He's striking out an eye-popping 41.8% of batters faced while walking just 6% of opponents. His dominance on a pitch-for-pitch basis is laughable. Stephenson has gotten a swinging strike on 28.2% of his pitches as a Ray and 24.1% of his offerings this season overall. Not only is that the highest rate of any pitcher with 50+ innings, it's more than three percentage points clear of second-place Felix Bautista.

How will the market value a pitcher who has been arguably the game's most dominant reliever for three and a half months after a career of inconsistency? Pitchers like Kendall Graveman and Rafael Montero have landed three-year contracts largely behind one platform season that was less impressive than Stephenson's last few months. The Padres went to four years and $34MM for Drew Pomeranz on the heels of a dominant second half a few seasons back.

Veterans with Closing Experience


Middle Relievers



Obviously, Hader is the top option, but I would take Hicks and Lopez in a heartbeat. I don't feel the same way about Stephenson. I think he'll be overpaid.

Of the next group, old man Robertson is my pick. I think he could be signed fairly cheap (1-year deal) and still pitch some high-leverage innings.

Stratton or Garcia would be fine, but I don't love them more than Stanek or Maton. It'll be interesting who we decide on.


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Well… at least we won the Cancun World Series
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htxag09 said:

Marvin said:

I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!

I mean Astros around 2010-2014 were way worse than the Aggies are now….


I miss those ticket prices
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cone said:

htxag09 said:

Marvin said:

I don't get upset with A&M sports any longer. There's zero joy found down that road. I watch, and switch channels when the predictable happens.

I hope to never get that way with the Astros, though!

I mean Astros around 2010-2014 were way worse than the Aggies are now….


I miss those ticket prices


$6 upper deck, go sit down above the dugout

It was nice
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I remember
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it was a glorious time
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Wonder if there's any correlation in the lineup that day, and the fact that we didn't win another home series after that game
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Dusty's tenure is not going to age well

it was a weapons-grade incompetence in 2023
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W said:

Dusty's tenure is not going to age well

it was a weapons-grade incompetence in 2023
Pena getting ridiculously hot in 2022 really helped him.
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W said:

Dusty's tenure is not going to age well

it was a weapons-grade incompetence in 2023


I disagree. Overtime people will forget and just see 3 ALCS, 2 WS, and 1 Title.
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