Gotta do what you gotta do! If I have to, I'll drive to the convenient store to buy the same beer I was drinking, but this series has already taken a toll on my liver!

Eligible for tonight

MLB announces Abreu 2-game suspension is upheld and will be served for the first two games of the 2024 regular season.

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) October 23, 2023

A decision has been rendered by the arbitrator regarding the appeal for Bryan Abreu’s discipline. His two-game suspension has been upheld, and it will be served during the first two games to begin MLB’s 2024 season. #ALCS #Postseason

— MLB Communications (@MLB_PR) October 23, 2023

PatAg said:

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Isnt it pretty normal to just do the suspension at start of next season? For the MLB at least

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Yes. I also do not understand the suspension. Fine, yes, but suspension no.

DallasAg 94 said:

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bdp514am said:

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Why do people get so upset over homerun trots, yet almost nothing is ever said about the way pitcher's celebrate big outs these days?

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First, it was never necessarily about celebrating as much as showing up the pitcher. Usually the line was standing there admiring the hit was enough. 10 years ago or so ago, some expression of slamming the bat or bat flip creeped.

HR trots is a throw back as is nothing more than maybe a fist-pump for Ps. The nostalgic unwritten rule in baseball was to never show-up the other player or team. Hit your HR, take your trot, go back to the dugout. Old school baseball would say Adolis got what he should have expected by just standing there, sans 99pm 4seamer to the upper body.

The Latin culture has influenced some of the celebration. Not sure if it is because of futbol/soccer in there home country, where parading around after a goal is expected.

Japan I believe hitters practice their bat-flips and many have a signature flip.

Even in football, there is more expression than traditionally tolerated. Sandler said on the radio this morning that young people just want to have more fun.

Chapman even said after G5 that what Garcia did was perfectly within what is accepted today and hitting players for celebrating HRs is no longer part of the game.

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Just wait. Get ready for this generation to hit the pros.

These 3rd graders acting different 🤣 (via @CourtsideFilms)pic.twitter.com/Qh3aBV73OX

— Overtime (@overtime) January 17, 2023

I'm glad he's there
Scored on him last night
Let's do it again

Surprised at their AVG #s

Don't let Yordan beat us and we got this

PatAg said:

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'03ag said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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bdp514am said:

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Why do people get so upset over homerun trots, yet almost nothing is ever said about the way pitcher's celebrate big outs these days?

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First, it was never necessarily about celebrating as much as showing up the pitcher. Usually the line was standing there admiring the hit was enough. 10 years ago or so ago, some expression of slamming the bat or bat flip creeped.

HR trots is a throw back as is nothing more than maybe a fist-pump for Ps. The nostalgic unwritten rule in baseball was to never show-up the other player or team. Hit your HR, take your trot, go back to the dugout. Old school baseball would say Adolis got what he should have expected by just standing there, sans 99pm 4seamer to the upper body.

The Latin culture has influenced some of the celebration. Not sure if it is because of futbol/soccer in there home country, where parading around after a goal is expected.

Japan I believe hitters practice their bat-flips and many have a signature flip.

Even in football, there is more expression than traditionally tolerated. Sandler said on the radio this morning that young people just want to have more fun.

Chapman even said after G5 that what Garcia did was perfectly within what is accepted today and hitting players for celebrating HRs is no longer part of the game.

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Just wait. Get ready for this generation to hit the pros.

These 3rd graders acting different 🤣 (via @CourtsideFilms)pic.twitter.com/Qh3aBV73OX

— Overtime (@overtime) January 17, 2023

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There's going to be a course correction at some point, where dudes just start getting their asses beat for doing that.

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Growing up in East Texas at that age in the 80's, you would most definitely get your ass beat for that. If not during the game, then you might want to just go ahead and skip that handshake line.

EastSideAg2002 said:

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Flounder Dorfman said:

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PatAg said:

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'03ag said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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bdp514am said:

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Why do people get so upset over homerun trots, yet almost nothing is ever said about the way pitcher's celebrate big outs these days?

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First, it was never necessarily about celebrating as much as showing up the pitcher. Usually the line was standing there admiring the hit was enough. 10 years ago or so ago, some expression of slamming the bat or bat flip creeped.

HR trots is a throw back as is nothing more than maybe a fist-pump for Ps. The nostalgic unwritten rule in baseball was to never show-up the other player or team. Hit your HR, take your trot, go back to the dugout. Old school baseball would say Adolis got what he should have expected by just standing there, sans 99pm 4seamer to the upper body.

The Latin culture has influenced some of the celebration. Not sure if it is because of futbol/soccer in there home country, where parading around after a goal is expected.

Japan I believe hitters practice their bat-flips and many have a signature flip.

Even in football, there is more expression than traditionally tolerated. Sandler said on the radio this morning that young people just want to have more fun.

Chapman even said after G5 that what Garcia did was perfectly within what is accepted today and hitting players for celebrating HRs is no longer part of the game.

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Just wait. Get ready for this generation to hit the pros.

These 3rd graders acting different 🤣 (via @CourtsideFilms)pic.twitter.com/Qh3aBV73OX

— Overtime (@overtime) January 17, 2023

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There's going to be a course correction at some point, where dudes just start getting their asses beat for doing that.

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Growing up in East Texas at that age in the 80's, you would most definitely get your ass beat for that. If not during the game, then you might want to just go ahead and skip that handshake line.

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That should be on the coaches and parents. Kids will do what you let them get away with. They are just copying what they see on TV.

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I 100% completely agree with you.

By the way, watching the Spanish broadcast of the NLCS is pretty darn enjoyable. And I don't know Spanish. These guys are way better than Smoltz talking down to everyone and treating us like we're stupid.

Flounder Dorfman said:

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By the way, watching the Spanish broadcast of the NLCS is pretty darn enjoyable. And I don't know Spanish. These guys are way better than Smoltz talking down to everyone and treating us like we're stupid.

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I feel like Smoltz has yet to figure out how to mix in lighter hearted commentary with his serious breakdown of how the pitcher is doing. It is pretty interesting to hear his thought process, and what he thinks would work in a given count in the at-bat. But not every single pitch, and definitely not as something big/important is happening.

Banister is the bench coach for the d'backs? Damn, I'm way behind.

Aggies2009 said:

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Kinda like when they suspended Gurriel for making racist gestures at Yu Darvish- Gave him 5 games.... the next April. Either suspend them or don't. If you don't think he threw at him, overturn the suspension. If you do, give it to him immediately. What a joke.

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A rule adopted in the 2017 collective-bargaining agreement created the current landscape. Prior to that CBA, a hearing for postseason discipline was required to take place within 14 days of an appeal. But the players and owners agreed to a change after the appeal of Chase Utley's two-game suspension for breaking the leg of Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada with an aggressive slide in the 2015 NLCS was not resolved until the following March.

Since 2017, a hearing for a postseason incident must take place within 48 hours. Unlike Yuli Gurriel's five-game suspension for making a racist gesture at Yu Darvish during the 2017 World Series, which was served at the start of the 2018 regular season, Abreu's suspension would take effect immediately. His infraction is considered an on-field matter. Gurriel's was not.

Source: https://theathletic.com/4989191/2023/10/23/houston-astros-upset-bryan-abreu-suspension/

No idea how MLB mental gymnastics'd their way into this outcome. It makes no sense. Should either be tonight or no suspension.

No worries, they'll find a way. Probably bundle it with a demand for respect.

I could use a 12pk of Ranger Juice Force IPA. Not driving. Anyone in Rockwall area?

I watched the game on mute because I hate their effing fans so much. Will do the same tonight. Whatever it takes.

Made it home, turned on Dbacks Phillies, and cracked the evening's first beer. It is time gentlemen.

I said I wasn't going to drink tonight… but I stopped at the same convenient store and got the same beer I drank last night. Whatever works!