*****Official Texas Rangers 2023 Season Thread***** [Staff Warning]

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Tksymm7 said:

AggieRob93 said:

Montgomery did the pen no favors loading the bases with one out, but this bullpen is an immense failure, as is the management of it.
Agree here. That situation is 95% on Montgomery. Sure, Stratton threw a low cement mixer, but you can't load the bases like that up five.


Strongly disagree. Montgomery pitched awesome and didn't deserve 3 runs on his line. Bullpen is ass and Bochy has no idea who to go to. Montgomery wouldn't have given up 4 if they left him in
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Now blue wants to tighten up the zone
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The way Montgomery finished the game he could've walked in all four of those runs. The bullpen is garbage overall though and Bochy absolutely has no idea who to put out there because they've all let him down more than once.
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gigem1223 said:

Damn there for a minute I was thinking we might see something special today. Montgomery has been so damn good. Need to find a way to get him signed.

Currently sporting 1.5 ERA as a Texas Ranger
I've really liked Montgomery's approach with the Rangers. He has earned $20M (Career total) and was on a 1yr with STL for $10M in 2023. I'm wondering if 3yr/$45M?! He is a Boras guy, so who knows. Usually Boras likes a guy to be a FA at 32, so he can sign a 4-5yr deal. He'll likely push for a 4yr deal and an option/vesting 5th year.

He has gone 157.1 iP ('21), 178.1 ('22), and already at 152.0 ('23. Including today). So, durability is good and he hasn't been an injury guy. That will likely get him near $20M.

The concern is how you fit him in.

Scherzer ('24)
Heaney ('24. #13M becomes $20M if 150IP)
Eovaldi ('24, vesting option '25)
Gray ('24, and '25)
Dunning (3 yrs Arb control)

deGrom

Otto, White, Bradford, others

I've said this before, I'd like to see the Rangers move Heaney. Maybe Gray. Pay the $7M difference if he reaches 150IP and move him to Tampa.

If you can sign Montgomery, you can move both Heaney and Gray.

You'd also be ok cycling Otto (27), White (23), and Bradford (25) as your #5. They are all 3 on the 40.
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Stratton setting up the dong.
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We must not have been watching the same game. Monty was getting hit hard in the 6th, even on the one out he got. Pitch count was out of control by the point so was probably the right call to pull him.
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Our pitching staff is dealing flubber.
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We need at least three more to get through the ninth and still have a chance.
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For ****s sake blue. That wasn't even close!
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WTF blue
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gigem1223 said:

For ****s sake blue. That wasn't even close!

Count should be 2-1
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Can we please hold on for once, get the split, and get the hell out of here with some confidence after winning 2 in a row?

Just get 6 outs bullpen.
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Mr Gigem said:

We must not have been watching the same game. Monty was getting hit hard in the 6th, even on the one out he got. Pitch count was out of control by the point so was probably the right call to pull him.

Yeah, I'm not on "OMG BOCHY 3 WS TITLES HE CANT BE QUESTIONED" bus, but there's only so much the guy can do when all of your bullpen options are unreliable.
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94chem
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Time to break LeClerc. Best arm in the pen the past month, and gets greeted with a first pitch rocket, and then decides to walk the next guy.
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Here comes that L fellas.
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But let's be fair. The offense had plenty of chances to add on, and Duran is the absolute goat (not the same as GOAT, kids) right now.
Proposition Joe
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Big 1st out
ryanhnc10
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Proposition Joe said:

Mr Gigem said:

We must not have been watching the same game. Monty was getting hit hard in the 6th, even on the one out he got. Pitch count was out of control by the point so was probably the right call to pull him.

Yeah, I'm not on "OMG BOCHY 3 WS TITLES HE CANT BE QUESTIONED" bus, but there's only so much the guy can do when all of your bullpen options are unreliable.


Which is exactly why he should have left Montgomery in. I trust Montgomery more than anyone in the bullpen even as he is tiring - at least leave him in until he gives up a run.

I don't understand why Bochy immediately pulls a starter any time they are slightly in trouble, especially when the entire bullpen is garbage
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Haha anyone else just have their hopes sink when they showed Smith and Sborz in the pen?
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Will Smith warming up

That's ballgame if he comes in
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Mr Gigem said:

We must not have been watching the same game. Monty was getting hit hard in the 6th, even on the one out he got. Pitch count was out of control by the point so was probably the right call to pull him.


We must not have because the bullpen guy came in and gave up a grand slam - did you catch that part?
94chem
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Monty Burns making a move.
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Proof that Bochy does not want the postseason by bringing Smith in.
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Tksymm7 said:

Here comes that L fellas.

94chem
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PatriotAg02 said:

Haha anyone else just have their hopes sink when they showed Smith and Sborz in the pen?


That feeling I'd get when I'd see the red pots with torches.
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Here comes Smith….
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Bizarro Jerry said:

Here comes Smith….


Wow, just wow.
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Bizarro Jerry said:

Here comes Smith….


Call your pitch.
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ryanhnc10 said:

Mr Gigem said:

We must not have been watching the same game. Monty was getting hit hard in the 6th, even on the one out he got. Pitch count was out of control by the point so was probably the right call to pull him.


We must not have because the bullpen guy came in and gave up a grand slam - did you catch that part?


What's funny is you would still be *****ing if Monty was left in and he was the one that gave up the grand slam
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Think we all know how Mr GigEm feels about Smith
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I can't watch this. I might punch a hole through my TV
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Leave smith in right ?
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Exhale everyone... Will Smith with the K to get out of the inning.
Proposition Joe
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Would love to tack on 9 here.
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