*****Official Texas Rangers 2023 Season Thread***** [Staff Warning]

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Proposition Joe
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It's not that IP aren't relevant, it's that you seem to apply them as a leading indicator but then throw out things like "Well Perez is actually a #2 starter he just has had some bad games" or "Pitcher X has changed his delivery and that is why suddenly he's pitching 2 runs better on his ERA".

Learning about small sample sizes and metrics like swing and miss rates and hard hit ball % are going to tell you a lot more about what a pitcher is going to do in the future than IP.
PatriotAg02
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Legit question.......is LA stealing signs?
fc2112
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Perez is struggling throwing strikes.
gigem1223
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PatriotAg02 said:

Legit question.......is LA stealing signs?


Sure as hell feels like. It doesn't help that we're struggling to throw strikes but I've legit never seen a lineup hit this way against so many different pitchers.
Tksymm7
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No, we're grooving pitches and they are that good at the plate. They don't chase almost AT ALL.

Should also add, we can't throw a strike.
Proposition Joe
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Tksymm7 said:

I think out lineup, at least with Corey Seager, is still very good and one of the best in the league even if we lack a real OBP/no strikeouts type of guy, but you're spot on with the pitching. I think we all probably knew guys were overperforming, but didn't necessarily know how much they were overperforming. Leody and Dunning are good examples on both fronts, where we all knew they weren't going to put up all-star types of numbers for the entire season, but also didn't necessarily know where they would land or will still land.

I still think our offense is very good if not one of the best -- but you've got Janikowski, Jung, Taveras and Heim on pace for 4WAR seasons and Duran on pace for a 3 WAR season.

Maybe we have struck gold on 5 young/unproven guys -- but chances are that the majority of them are going to regress and with that regression yes we're still going to have a very good offense but it's not going to be an offense that can overcome shaky pitching every time out.
fc2112
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BALL SIX

BALL SIX

BALL SIX
gigem1223
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This is insane
Silvertaps
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Good grief Perez…Not the ideal start…
vette
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Time to send Perez to the IL
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PatriotAg02
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I think it's time for a come to Jesus with the pitching staff........
Tksymm7
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Turned this one off quick.
Proposition Joe
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Wait, so you're telling me just pitching Perez at home during the playoffs isn't a guarantee of him having TORP production?

Half-season splits mean next to nothing.
beagle2009
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Headed to the pool. Thank you Rangers for clearing up my Sunday.
PatriotAg02
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I usually just hope for the Rangers getting me to football season. I guess this season was a success in that regard lol.
94chem
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Perez going against a team that scored 48 runs in the last 6 games, and doesn't throw a single breaking pitch? I know, let's throw flat sinkers and hope they beat it into the ground.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
gigem1223
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Scouting report on Sheehan is to be patient and make him throw strikes. Semien…swings at first pitch as a type that lol
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I hate to say I told you so, but....I told you so re: Perez.

Rarely, rarely do players put together years of stats and then suddenly show drastic, permanent improvement. Last season was an anomaly. This is who Perez is and who he has always been.
Jimbo Franchione
PatriotAg02
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Jank with the walk
AggieRob93
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Ended up being spanked in game 1.
Were unequivocally beaten and whipped in game 2.
Now down 4 to start game 3.

Ths pitching staff is turning into a huge liability. The offense is not good enough to overcome these kinds of pitching failings, and if it continues unchanged either in approach or staffing, it will result in no joy to end the season.
Tksymm7
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I definitely agree. Jung and Heim are pretty legit in my opinion, even though they both have areas that they could definitely work on and continue to improve, but your speculation about Duran, Jankowski and Leody is solid and something that I have been wondering as well. Especially for Leody. I've just seen him too much to really believe that he was somehow going to continue to be a borderline all-star. Duran is talented and has potential, but he's got a ways to go in terms of how to have an at-bat and discipline.
gigem1223
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Finally get a tattooed ball to not be caught this series.
Grapesoda2525
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I knew the dodgers series was going to be a struggle, but I don't think anyone expected it to be this bad. Holy *****.
DallasAg 94
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You won't find me calling Perez a #2 at any point this season.

Mid-season I indicated that his H/A splits were substantial and suggested with the turf and new shift options, that he may be a Home-only option. That proved to not necessarily play out.

For well over a month I have suggested him losing his role upon us getting a SP.

Today, going 3-0 to the leadoff guy and continually being behind in the count has proven to be his undoing today. Today's failure isn't about being "unlucky" unless the known practice of pitching behind in the count correlates to being unlucky versus setting yourself to be predictable.
Proposition Joe
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Was about to say that better ****ing drop.
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94chem
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After giving up 50 runs and losing Garcia, Gray, and Seager, somebody needs to wear one if that ball gets caught. I'm still ticked that fatty beat out a DP ball in the opener.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
gigem1223
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Nice bounce back from Perez
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PatriotAg02 said:

Legit question.......is LA stealing signs?
One of my co-workers has a relative on the Dodgers' analytics team. My co-worker has given me some insight regarding the Dodgers' approach. Not the analytics/data/metrics. No insider information.

I think it comes down to scouting and preparation. Dodgers are very disciplined and have been patient for the Rangers to pitch to them. If you look at their Batting based on G, you see these ages:
33, 30, 26, 23, 35, 32, 35, 33, 28, 34 vs
32, 27, 30, 25, 28, 24, 24, 33, 29, 32

Heaney didn't get much playoff time for them and Seager was with them last year.

The have a very veteran team that has lots of Championship experience.

Rangers have been aggressive and let the Dodgers off the hook.

Disappointing series, but not the end of things. We strive to be a playoff team, they expect to be a World Series winner.
94chem
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Can't believe Sheehan didn't throw Smith a changeup.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
gigem1223
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So glad some of y'all tuned out after the first half inning
Quincey P. Morris
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And we've got a brand new ballgame.
Silvertaps
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Hope Perez sees this as hitting the reset button.
beagle2009
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beagle2009 said:

Headed to the pool. Thank you Rangers for clearing up my Sunday.

GD nevermind!!
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