***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 11:57a, 3/23/23
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I've really enjoyed your countdown Porkchop, it's been the best part of this off-season for me. But I think your writeup of Biggio might be the best of the best.

Johnny Edwards was the Astros catcher during my early years as a fan. And I used to think of him as light hitting, but I just compared his career numbers to our current catcher. My apologies to you Mr. Edwards.
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11:58a, 3/23/23
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I said it last year and I still think Pena is the next Springer offensively. I think that's the range where his numbers will develop. He will adjust and be a solid lead off hitter.
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12:15p, 3/23/23
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My go-to when deciding who is a good leadoff hitter is OBP minus ISO. I read about it on FanGraphs and it just made sense. You want a good hitter who gets on base without wasting too much power.

If we set a minimum of .320 OBP, here is how would be ideal to lead off.

Based on 2022 #s
1. Michael Brantley - .242
2. Jose Abreu - .237
3. David Hensley - .200 (only 34 PA)
4. Alex Bregman - .171
5. Chas McCormick - .170

Based on 2023 ZIPs Projections
1. Michael Brantley - .221
2. David Hensley - .194
3. Jose Abreu - .180
4. Alex Bregman - .176
5. Jose Altuve - .152
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:18p, 3/23/23
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Not gonna lie, reading this one got me all in my feelings and weirdly it's a little dusty up in here. Well done. And thank you Big for all the memories. He's the quintessential Astro for me and a million others.
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12:19p, 3/23/23
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Having Pena leadoff, he could ambush that 1st pitch fastball. Maybe take the slider low & away out of play, at least on the 1st pitch of the game.

Every pitcher in the game knew that Springer and Altuve were looking to do damage on the 1st pitch, yet they continued to throw fastballs. Every so often you'd get a 1st pitch slider, but that is few and far between.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:39p, 3/23/23
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Farmer1906 said:
redline248 said:
Ag_07 said:
I'll throw this out for the stat gurus...How far apart are Pena and George's numbers?

IIRC George wasn't a prototype high OBP guy but managed alright in the leadoff spot.

I'm probably wrong but I kinda think they're pretty similar. You give up some OBP but you get a bit more pop in the leadoff spot.
Springer's lowest OBP in a season was .336 as a rookie. Pena's was .289. However, Pena's spring OBP is .320
I like the thought process. Springer never hit for a ton of avg, but has pop, has speed, & had a K problem early in his career. BUT Springer was always good at drawing walks. He's been north of 10% BB% every single season until last year when he hit 9.3%. Pena was only at 3.9% which is not even half of the league average.
Pena drew more walks in his early stops at single A before trailing off in AAA and the show. Worth noting I think that Springer played in 60% more minor league games before getting called up compared to Pena. It was mentioned many times that he only played in 30 games above A ball before starting at SS for the Astros. Pena definitely needs to work on his walk rate, but maybe we can hope part of his low walk rate can be attributed to inexperience and not getting to refine his plate approach at the normal developmental level?
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In reply to McInnis • 12:48p, 3/23/23
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McInnis said:
I've really enjoyed your countdown Porkchop, it's been the best part of this off-season for me. But I think your writeup of Biggio might be the best of the best.

Johnny Edwards was the Astros catcher during my early years as a fan. And I used to think of him as light hitting, but I just compared his career numbers to our current catcher. My apologies to you Mr. Edwards.
Thanks, it's a lot of fun starting my days with some sports writing because a lot of the other stuff I do is a little on the snoozy side at times. #6 is kind of a yawner, but #1-#5 is all gas no brakes to get to Opening Day!
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12:50p, 3/23/23
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No more free apple tv games
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In reply to Red Five • 12:51p, 3/23/23
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Red Five said:
Farmer1906 said:
redline248 said:
Ag_07 said:
I'll throw this out for the stat gurus...How far apart are Pena and George's numbers?

IIRC George wasn't a prototype high OBP guy but managed alright in the leadoff spot.

I'm probably wrong but I kinda think they're pretty similar. You give up some OBP but you get a bit more pop in the leadoff spot.
Springer's lowest OBP in a season was .336 as a rookie. Pena's was .289. However, Pena's spring OBP is .320
I like the thought process. Springer never hit for a ton of avg, but has pop, has speed, & had a K problem early in his career. BUT Springer was always good at drawing walks. He's been north of 10% BB% every single season until last year when he hit 9.3%. Pena was only at 3.9% which is not even half of the league average.
Pena drew more walks in his early stops at single A before trailing off in AAA and the show. Worth noting I think that Springer played in 60% more minor league games before getting called up compared to Pena. It was mentioned many times that he only played in 30 games above A ball before starting at SS for the Astros. Pena definitely needs to work on his walk rate, but maybe we can hope part of his low walk rate can be attributed to inexperience and not getting to refine his plate approach at the normal developmental level?


It's common to see guys improve after their rookie
year when it comes to Ks. Springer is the obvious one, but look at Chas. He made huge strides. Tucker was never a K monster but his 2020 vs 21 & 22 are improved. Pena just can't be Javy Biaz or to bring it closer to home, Jose Siri.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 12:51p, 3/23/23
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EastCoastAgNc said:

No more free apple tv games


That's some bull *****
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:52p, 3/23/23
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AppleTV is like $5 per month. Just buy it for April then cancel
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:04p, 3/23/23
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Non-contact knee injuries are never good
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In reply to gougler08 • 1:05p, 3/23/23
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In a contract year too.
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2:28p, 3/23/23
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Phillies are hurting without Harper and Hoskins for an extended period of time.

Hoskins played in 156 games last year.

and, yes, not good timing heading into free agency
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In reply to W • 2:30p, 3/23/23
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W said:
Phillies are hurting without Harper and Hoskins for an extended period of time.

Hoskins played in 156 games last year.

and, yes, not good timing heading into free agency
They went from having a stacked top 5 to now just a strong top 3.
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2:33p, 3/23/23


I like both of these guys just a little better after this clip. Meyers is a bro that just needs some tasty waves and a cool buzz.
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How I have just heard about this? This is going to be awesome and I'm probably going to throw out my back hitting a 62 mph dribbler.
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 2:39p, 3/23/23
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ttha_aggie_09 said:


How I have just heard about this? This is going to be awesome and I'm probably going to throw out my back hitting a 62 mph dribbler.
Its like topgolf for baseball, I guess. I don't think hitting a baseball translates to hitting a golf ball. I agree. Lots of pain physically and emotionally after going there.
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ttha_aggie_09 said:


How I have just heard about this? This is going to be awesome and I'm probably going to throw out my back hitting a 62 mph dribbler.


I got invited for the VIP night next Wednesday. I'll try to remember to give a report if the free drinks don't kill me.

Just record videos as the night progresses. It'll help you with your report and it'll provide great entertainment for us as the night goes on
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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ttha_aggie_09 said:


How I have just heard about this? This is going to be awesome and I'm probably going to throw out my back hitting a 62 mph dribbler.
I will not rest until I hit one over the batter's eye at MMP Yordan Style.
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In reply to Red Five • 2:57p, 3/23/23
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Red Five said:
ttha_aggie_09 said:


How I have just heard about this? This is going to be awesome and I'm probably going to throw out my back hitting a 62 mph dribbler.
I will not rest until I hit one over the batter's eye at MMP Yordan Style.
Settle for a lucky Crawford Box shot and maybe you'll do it.
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 3:04p, 3/23/23
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ttha_aggie_09 said:


How I have just heard about this? This is going to be awesome and I'm probably going to throw out my back hitting a 62 mph dribbler.

Do they have settings to replicate roof open/roof closed? Asking for a friend from up north.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:09p, 3/23/23
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The Porkchop Express said:
McInnis said:
I've really enjoyed your countdown Porkchop, it's been the best part of this off-season for me. But I think your writeup of Biggio might be the best of the best.

Johnny Edwards was the Astros catcher during my early years as a fan. And I used to think of him as light hitting, but I just compared his career numbers to our current catcher. My apologies to you Mr. Edwards.
Thanks, it's a lot of fun starting my days with some sports writing because a lot of the other stuff I do is a little on the snoozy side at times. #6 is kind of a yawner, but #1-#5 is all gas no brakes to get to Opening Day!

I agree that they have been a good read. Can't wait for the info on Scrap Iron, Gerald Young and finally: Casey Candaele!
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 3:16p, 3/23/23
bearkatag15 said:
AppleTV is like $5 per month. Just buy it for April then cancel


No. It's stupid. MLB will black you out on their own steaming service and will make you pay to watch a national game on an ancillary channel.

They think a pitch clock will get more people to watch games and then do crap like this.

Who outside of Houston, ATL, and Philly is paying for Apple TV for April for those two games?

MLB just steps on rakes when it comes to growing the game. They had the freaking WBC final game on FS1 for goodness sake! They still drew huge numbers, and instead of building on that success, they are making people pay for Friday night national games. It's the dumbest plan they could possibly come up with after the interest they just built the past month.

So yeah, I'm not paying $5 to watch two national games to further their incompetence.
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 3:45p, 3/23/23
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AppleTV is like $5 per month. Just buy it for April then cancel
You can binge all of Apple's series you want to during that month too.

Edit: Should have finished the thread to realize the line had been drawn.
Mea culpa.
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Ill just go with other streaming options
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 4:09p, 3/23/23
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It's going to be fun to roll out an OF of Chas, Jake, & Dirden with Dubon at 2nd & Diaz DHing. Really ready to reign.
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