Yeah, see my other post
***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***
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Another deal that makes Montero's look like a bargain.
texasaggie2015 said:
Conteras is telling teams that he can be a better hitter with less time behind the plate. The Astros agree with that. He would split time between DH and C if he came to Houston. Maybe a few games in left.
That being said, he would be the primary catcher in the postseason.
If we gave him a 4 year offer and his next best is 3….AND we are saying he's a part time catcher and can play for a WS caliber team….
Seems like a no brainer for him to sign with us
Jansen and Judge, two all-time Astro fan favorites!Farmer1906 said:
deals being madeSource confirms: Free-agent reliever Kenley Jansen in agreement with Red Sox on two-year, $32M contract, pending physical. First: @JeffPassan.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 7, 2022
Life is better with a beagle
On the other end of the spectrum, the As total luxury tax payroll is 53 M. Tony Kemp is expected to be the highest-paid player on the team @ ~3.9 M. They have zero guaranteed contracts (guys after arbitration).
Cards seem pretty interested too. I wonder if they have any issues matching years with us.AggiEE said:texasaggie2015 said:
Conteras is telling teams that he can be a better hitter with less time behind the plate. The Astros agree with that. He would split time between DH and C if he came to Houston. Maybe a few games in left.
That being said, he would be the primary catcher in the postseason.
If we gave him a 4 year offer and his next best is 3….AND we are saying he's a part time catcher and can play for a WS caliber team….
Seems like a no brainer for him to sign with us
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_collusion#1985%E2%80%931987The Porkchop Express said:
3. I really am curious why the owners of MLB don't band together and say, we're not offering anyone more than 5 years. They're eating themselves by doing it this way.
https://ts.la/eric59704
From what I understand he's looking for 5 years
Seemed like last night STL is hesitant to offer a 4th
In complete fairness to Jon Heyman, they haven't actually announced where Arson Judge has landed yet.
— Eephus Tosser (@EephusTosser) December 7, 2022
Currently, the Mets' CBT payroll is ~$298 million. With the Jose Quintana signing, they are now over the Steve Cohen Tax threshold, and every dollar they spend gets taxed at 90%. If they stop spending today, their total tax bill would be ~$34 million. But they're not stopping.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 7, 2022
Damn
Cardinals closing in on free-agent catcher Willson Contreras, sources tell @TheAthletic.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 7, 2022
Farmer beat me to it.
I would have been down for it but 4/$80 on a guy we're not committed to as a catcher never seemed like a real fit.Farmer1906 said:
DamnCardinals closing in on free-agent catcher Willson Contreras, sources tell @TheAthletic.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 7, 2022
Time to get Maldy, Dusty and Crane in a room with Vazquez and have them figure out a way to make it work. Give Vazquez 4/6 and Maldy 2/6.
****. Who's next on our list? Benenitendi?
Remember when Brantley went to the Blue Jays? Maybe Crane jumps on the phone and stops it.
Bring back Vasquez. JV isn't around to ask for Maldy. CV shows he can work well with the staff. He should catch 4 of 6 starters (if 6 man rotation).
Willson Contreras is heading to #Cardinals. https://t.co/BXmiFQu4mm
— Héctor Gómez (@hgomez27) December 7, 2022
I'm totally down with that and REALLY loved his approach at the plate.3B Paul 97 said:
Bring back Vasquez. JV isn't around to ask for Maldy. CV shows he can work well with the staff. He should catch 4 of 6 starters (if 6 man rotation).
What other open starting spots are there for Vasquez?
Seems like he's run out of options and he may have to settle on a backup/split role.
Seems like he's run out of options and he may have to settle on a backup/split role.
It seems like the gap between the spenders and regular teams is as great as it has ever been. The playoffs are going to be easy to predict, just take the top however many teams that spend and you can almost guarantee 80% will make the playoffs.
BeaumontAg05 said:
It seems like the gap between the spenders and regular teams is as great as it has ever been. The playoffs are going to be easy to predict, just take the top however many teams that spend and you can almost guarantee 80% will make the playoffs.
The 20%
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The team is also very interested in Michael Brantley returning, but he would need to be medically cleared which we may have more information in March.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) December 7, 2022
Sign a LH hitting left fielder and convince Vazquez to come back and be our 1A. That would be a pretty successful offseason IMO. Big upgrade on offense.
Altuve 2B
Bregman 3B
Yordan DH
Abreu 1B
Tucker RF
Pena SS
Brantley/Conforto LF
Vazquez C
Chas CF
Altuve 2B
Bregman 3B
Yordan DH
Abreu 1B
Tucker RF
Pena SS
Brantley/Conforto LF
Vazquez C
Chas CF
Something is off on Conforto
He didn't sign last season when he was ready and now there's not a lot of chatter on him.
What gives? Boras asking too much?
He didn't sign last season when he was ready and now there's not a lot of chatter on him.
What gives? Boras asking too much?
Was he ready?Ag_07 said:
Something is off on Conforto
He didn't sign last season when he was ready and now there's not a lot of chatter on him.
What gives? Boras asking too much?
It seemed like most Conforto speculation in late August was contrived by Boras to see if he could get someone to bite on a deal in hope he could be ready for the playoffs. Didn't seem like he was though.
Ah ok
I thought he had been medically cleared.
I thought he had been medically cleared.
Not getting Contreras is a gut punch
Now we need to find a LF AND Catcher
Now we need to find a LF AND Catcher
The Cardinals and Willson Contreras continue to talk. No deal is done, but John Mozeliak said there is “momentum and optimism” at the moment.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) December 7, 2022
I think we should go after this "Arson Judge" I've been hearing so much about.AggiEE said:
Not getting Contreras is a gut punch
Now we need to find a LF AND Catcher
Life is better with a beagle
Deluxe said:The Cardinals and Willson Contreras continue to talk. No deal is done, but John Mozeliak said there is “momentum and optimism” at the moment.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) December 7, 2022
I think Contreras is just using the Astros as leverage and always wanted to sign with the Cardinals
He's just trying to drive the price up at this point
At this point we should be looking for Vasquez
He's just trying to drive the price up at this point
At this point we should be looking for Vasquez
Tell Vazquez that he will get plenty of action behind the dish this year as well as DH/1B (when Jose needs a break) and when Maldy walks after this year he becomes the starter full-time.AggiEE said:
I think Contreras is just using the Astros as leverage and always wanted to sign with the Cardinals
He's just trying to drive the price up at this point
At this point we should be looking for Vasquez
There has to be a way to make it work for Vazquez. And we should be willing to do what it takes to accommodate him. He represents a seamless transition to a savvy, playoff-tested veteran who can guide our young pitchers through 2025.Prosperdick said:
Tell Vazquez that he will get plenty of action behind the dish this year as well as DH/1B (when Jose needs a break) and when Maldy walks after this year he becomes the starter full-time.
Contreras is almost solely about getting his bat. Vazquez obviously doesn't hit like Contreras but he hits well and adds way more value behind the plate. He's significantly cheaper too.
I'm back to being greedy again. I want to allocate JV's $40 million on:
Vazquez $10
Reynolds $7
Brantley $10
Cueto $13 (to backfill the pitcher we have to trade Pittsburgh)
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