***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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He tried to tell everyone.

Baseball is just plain dirty. You would think a league intentionally altering its mandatory provided equipment to favor one outcome would be a big deal.

Imagine the Lakers getting to use a wider rim. Or the Eagles getting sideline chains that are 9.5 yards instead of 10. Or players in NY and Boston getting to use Apple Watches.
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He's also the guy who spilled the beans on cheating a year or so ago.
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We live in a world where very few people care about the truth of anything
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and money corrupts everything
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Farmer1906 said:

He's also the guy who spilled the beans on cheating a year or so ago.


And he got slapped down for it, threatened with lawsuits and then pulled all the tweets. Spaeder is a great follow. He seemed to have some great frigging knowledge.
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A reminder on those cheating tweets that were deleted. Their shadow still shows up on TexAgs.







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agproducer said:

Farmer1906 said:

He's also the guy who spilled the beans on cheating a year or so ago.


And he got slapped down for it, threatened with lawsuits and then pulled all the tweets. Spaeder is a great follow. He seemed to have some great frigging knowledge.
He's awesome. He really stuck his neck out there... not to defend the Astros, but to call out them being singled out.
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Farmer1906 said:

A reminder on those cheating tweets that were deleted. Their shadow still shows up on TexAgs.








Forever etched. Texags is the best!
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n_touch said:

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Not directly Astros related, but I know a lot of posters liked his Twitter posts during this last post season. He seems like a good guy that's worth rooting for.


Damn. I love Chris and his takes. Really hope he gets the help he needs to find peace.


Thats really sad. Also, someone should really read his posts before he posts it. Love the honesty, but some of this shouldnt be shared on the internet. Its not going to help him or his business/life to air how insecure he is
Sometimes that is needed to help you heal. I am sure that ever one read it and it was approved before it was posted.


Very sad and feel for the guy. Very glad he's getting help. Love his post game videos and thought a lot of the pure joy he got from watching baseball.
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It was really ****ty how fans turned on Spaeder, calling him a whack job. The dude was right. I followed him prior to the rant. He had some great insight and great connections.

I'm glad he called everyone it and put it out there. Yankees fans were and continue to be the worst.
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Hmmm. So is best scenario Judge leaving the Yankees and MLB and its "media partners" unable to contain the commemorative ball scandal? Yankee fans meltdown over Judge, the 'historic' record breaking nonsense proven to be a lie. Manfred will be out of a job if this blows up.
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Mathguy64 said:

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I mean we all knew Pujols was using them.


Between juiced balls for the right team and Pujols's special bats that are no longer legal, is there any doubt August and September were rigged for him and Judge?

I know everyone was giddy for Albert but it wasn't a level playing field. Yet Bonds, Clemens and Arod are kept out of the HOF. And maybe more damning given this affects gambling lines, Rose is not in the HOF.


Yeah, a league monkeying with basic equipment to benefit a player (and thus their team) is no small thing.
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I guess this is just the price of poker now.
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This is a dumb question, but wouldn't the opponent get to use the juiced balls in NY too? At least to some degree the balls transfer from inning to inning. There's zero chance the umpires and ball-boys are in on it in my mind.
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Still LoL with every pro sports league having gambling sponsors these days.

Baseball has such a twisted and warped sense of morality.

The Commissioner's Office these days is just an extension of the Yankees'.

Anyone who watched ball and strike calls at Yankee Stadium this season is not surprised Judge had 'special' balls thrown to him.

If a group of underpaid White Sox who had to pay the team to clean their uniforms desecrated the sport by throwing a World Series, players juicing and eclipsing long time HR records, or supposedly teams that used video to steal signs in this century did violence to the game, what is it when the league itself is defrauding the public?
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CoachRTM said:

This is a dumb question, but wouldn't the opponent get to use the juiced balls in NY too? At least to some degree the balls transfer from inning to inning. There's zero chance the umpires and ball-boys are in on it in my mind.


Did the opponent have anyone chasing a cherished record?
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W said:

and money corrupts everything


It's all out in the open these days, everywhere.

"Professional Wrestling" was the running joke in sports for decades, but all the other 'serious' sports leagues are still in the entertainment business, after all…
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The sheep only care that nO aSTrOs wEr PuNIshD
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Farmer1906 said:



I guess this is just the price of poker now.

I don't really believe this. The longest deal we gave to an incoming free agent was 4 years, and that was Josh Reddick. That would seen to fly in the face of the organizational philosophy. Long contacts like that are very risky. Even Realmuto only got 4 years, right?
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whoa, 5 years for Contreras?

and giving up on the catchers in the farm system so quickly?

that's the kind of thing folks were worried about with Bagwell's influence
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Contreras for 5 years starting at age 30 isn't bad.

Good profile, imo, not just the batting production but he's been to the top of the mountain in October.

I mean, adding Abreu and Contreras to this team addresses pretty much all outstanding issues other than a LF to pair with Yordan.

Maybe someone can show video to LMJ of his windup this season and work on disguising pitch types better.

Otherwise, not that bad.

Pretty good sign of Cards are in on Contreras imo.

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Eh, Diaz and Contreras both are kinda catchers that could DH in the future. I think they could coexist with Lee taking Maldy's backup role. Especially if Yordan takes >50% LF starts, we can get creative with the roster to maximize the offense.
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Extend Tucker while you can. That's what not paying Mr. Upton stupid Mets money enables you to do.
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Saw Benintendi interest rumored, makes sense.

For a part time role like that, wouldn't be surprised to see an Adam Duvall show up - solid vet, some power, WS experience.

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Seen two reports now alluding the Stros have offered Contreras 4 but the Cards are hesitant to go past 3. No 5-year deals on the table.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/willson-contreras-has-received-multi-year-offers-from-cardinals-astros.html
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Oakland finishes with a significantly worse record than the rangers and still picks below them.
You could give the Rangers the #1 pick for the next 300 years and I'm not sure they could win a division title.
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Hopefully Crane is just letting Sid Farkus handle bringing him his coffee:

"Firkus touted the Astros' "swath of outfielders" who could cover left field, which includes Yordan Alvarez, Chas McCormick, Jake Meyers, Mauricio Dubn and even rookie David Hensley"

https://www.mlb.com/news/astros-looking-at-options-for-left-field
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"The Astros still are interested in bringing back Brantley, but it's going to depend on his health. He's just started to do baseball drills after undergoing an arthroscopic labral repair on his right shoulder in August. With that in mind, the Astros have also shown interest in free agents Michael Conforto and Andrew Benintendi -- a pair of left-handed bats who could balance out Houston's predominantly right-handed lineup."

https://www.mlb.com/news/astros-looking-at-options-for-left-field
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CoachRTM said:

This is a dumb question, but wouldn't the opponent get to use the juiced balls in NY too? At least to some degree the balls transfer from inning to inning. There's zero chance the umpires and ball-boys are in on it in my mind.
Well the Yankees lived and died by the long ball more than just about every other team out there so yes it would help the opposing club but would help the Yankees more (in theory).
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Good lord.

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9 years and $360mm
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