***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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In reply to Beau Holder • 11:37a, 11/11/22
Beau Holder said:
I DO want to see Correa with the Yankees and DON'T want to see him with the Doyers. If that counts.


I want Correa on the Dodgers pretty badly, actually. The nose holding would be glorious.

I want to see the inner conflict from that move.
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In reply to HarryRocket • 11:37a, 11/11/22
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HarryRocket said:
Can anyone tell me who's won the most pennants this century? Just curious…


I believe it is us, followed by the Red Sox, Giants and Yankees?

Astros
05, 17, 19, 21, 22

Red Sox
04, 07, 13, 18

Yankees
00, 01, 03, 09

Giants
02, 10, 12, 14
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11:38a, 11/11/22
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11:39a, 11/11/22
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Get Luhnow on the horn
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:40a, 11/11/22
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whoa!
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11:40a, 11/11/22
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I really want us to make the ALCS 3 more times.

Holding the all-time record for consecutively making it to the league championship round would be pretty special, and it completely puts to bed any argument against us as a dynasty
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11:40a, 11/11/22
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holy crap. Im speechless
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11:41a, 11/11/22
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anyone but luhnow or sig is a letdown
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11:41a, 11/11/22
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My guess is, Crane holds on to the rest of the team to run baseball operations. Then hires someone in after the 2023 season. No long term deals are done. Only 1-2 year deals in FA with guys Crane is more familar with. Not ideal when trying to repeat.
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In reply to Ragnar Danneskjoldd • 11:42a, 11/11/22
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
anyone but luhnow or sig is a letdown
Be prepared to be letdown. Jeff is never ever coming back. Jim fired him and baseball is blackballing him.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:42a, 11/11/22
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Farmer1906 said:
My guess is, Crane holds on to the rest of the team to run baseball operations. Then hires someone in after the 2023 season. No long term deals are done. Only 1-2 year deals in FA with guys Crane is more familar with. Not ideal when trying to repeat.
Agree with the structure and that Stearns takes over the day he's available, but I don't think we'll miss a beat this year.
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11:42a, 11/11/22
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regarding the free agents...I just want as many as possible to end up in the National League.

outside of the Astros, the American League doesn't look very strong heading into the offseason
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11:42a, 11/11/22
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In reply to tjack16 • 11:42a, 11/11/22
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tjack16 said:
HarryRocket said:
Can anyone tell me who's won the most pennants this century? Just curious…


I believe it is us, followed by the Red Sox, Giants and Yankees?

Astros
05, 17, 19, 21, 22

Red Sox
04, 07, 13, 18

Yankees
00, 01, 03, 09

Giants
02, 10, 12, 14
Doesn't 00 technically count for the previous century?
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In reply to Wabs • 11:43a, 11/11/22
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I really thought they were going to work something out.
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11:45a, 11/11/22
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Feels like this means Crane does whatever it takes to get JV back. No?
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11:45a, 11/11/22
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Crane has some one in mind that is an upgrade but didn't want to get completely smashed by the media for not offering Click something. That was my takeaway from the Dusty presser.
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In reply to 979ag • 11:45a, 11/11/22
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979ag said:
Feels like this means Crane does whatever it takes to get JV back. No?
I think he was going to make a strong move to bring back JV either way
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In reply to KTAG05 • 11:45a, 11/11/22
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BCSGrubber said:
Crane has some one in mind that is an upgrade but didn't want to get completely smashed by the media for not offering Click something. That was my takeaway from the Dusty presser.
yep. Crane was begging click to walk away
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11:46a, 11/11/22
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Click will have a new job by Monday
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11:47a, 11/11/22
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Stearns is a 37-year old Ivy Leaguer

should get along great with Dusty
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11:47a, 11/11/22
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smh

wtf
https://ts.la/eric59704
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11:47a, 11/11/22
Not shocked about Click. Never seemed like him, Dusty and Crane were on the same page.
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In reply to Deluxe • 11:48a, 11/11/22
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Deluxe said:
Farmer1906 said:
My guess is, Crane holds on to the rest of the team to run baseball operations. Then hires someone in after the 2023 season. No long term deals are done. Only 1-2 year deals in FA with guys Crane is more familar with. Not ideal when trying to repeat.
Agree with the structure and that Stearns takes over the day he's available, but I don't think we'll miss a beat this year.
Yup.

But you know me. I am a guy who cares about the margins. Crane and his team of Dusty, Reggie Jackson, Jeff Bagwell are not who I want to make decisions about who low-key reliever we can sign and have a major impact on. They're not the ones who can evaluate internal prospects for a deadline trade. There are ton of little things that could be missed now. I like having the edge and being ahead of the curve. This aint it.
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11:50a, 11/11/22
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It would be delicious if CC went to the Dodgers or Yankees. They would have to eat the "cheaters" chants.

And I don't think Seattle is in play. They recently signed Crawford for 5 years/51m.
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In reply to zgood10 • 11:51a, 11/11/22
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zgood10 said:
Get Luhnow on the horn


let's ****ing go
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In reply to agproducer • 11:51a, 11/11/22
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agproducer said:
It would be delicious if CC went to the Dodgers or Yankees. They would have to eat the "cheaters" chants.

And I don't think Seattle is in play. They recently signed Crawford for 5 years/51m.
Crawford could easily move to 2B, or they could have Correa play 3B.
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In reply to Ragnar Danneskjoldd • 11:52a, 11/11/22
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I have to say, Crane is a big swinging dick.
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In reply to Ragnar Danneskjoldd • 11:53a, 11/11/22
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Geeez.
Gig’em Aggies!
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:55a, 11/11/22
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I hear you. I don't think Bags and Reggie will have a big impact on nuanced relief pitcher decisions. We've got a competent team of nerds that will make those recommendations.

Not sure who will be making the final calls, but it sounds like (at least some) transactional decisions in recent years have been made via consensus among a team of field/front office guys and not by Click singularly.

It will be interesting to see though. Personally I don't think we'll miss a beat but you could be right.
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11:55a, 11/11/22
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What did Click really do in terms of personnel?

Luhnow was the one who built the farm system and team.

I did like him bringing in Graveman in 2021, but it was a rent-a-player
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In reply to Ragnar Danneskjoldd • 11:55a, 11/11/22
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:


Publicly airing grievances? GTFO. He said nothing out of line in the slightest.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:56a, 11/11/22
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Maybe publicly to other GMs?
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