***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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Not quite the AAV of the Montero deal, but getting up there.
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Farmer1906 said:

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Maldy started almost every game in the playoffs over Vasquez. What makes you think dusty would catch Contreras over maldy in the playoffs. It's very clear maldy is the guy with how he handles the staff.
No one on here loves Maldy more than me. The answer to your question is we don't know yet.

Contreras would have a spring + full season to work with our staff. If he makes big strides with his staff handling capabilities and our pitchers trust him, he has a chance to split time with Maldy behind the plate in October. If not, Maldy will still get the bulk of the starts.

We're obviously gonna throw Maldy to the scrap heap if he's healthy, but Contreras can earn a bigger portion of the reps.
If Maldy is getting the bulk of the starts in the postseason after Contreras is shown to be competent and there are no other injuries, then I am going to lose it.

Yes, I know this is a hypothetical playoff decision about a player not yet on the team, but still. I would lose it.
I reckon you'll be fine as long as we win. Just like this postseason.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Not quite the AAV of the Montero deal, but getting up there.


I really think by the time this off-season is over we're going to look back at the Montero contract hand-wringing and laugh. This market is bananas.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Not quite the AAV of the Montero deal, but getting up there.


The total amount of almost half of Montero. It's more similar to what we gave Neris last year which is fairly common for a high leverage, non closer. Joe Kelly, Aaron Loup, Matt Barnes, and more got deals like this.
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Got my plaques today! Look great

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I think it's safe to say the economics have changed a bit since the new CBA last year. Our view of the money given to both Abreu and Montero might look a bit different by the end of the off-season.
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****ing Arlington Rangers keep screwing up the market. They are a bunch of wankers. They did the same with Alex Rodriguez all those years ago.
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JV to the Mets. Calling it now. Uncle Stevie pulls out the checkbook.
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scd88 said:

****ing Arlington Rangers keep screwing up the market. They are a bunch of wankers. They did the same with Alex Rodriguez all those years ago.


I'm shocked the AAV isn't 40+. I guess 5 years is longer than expected too.
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Wow, was anyone else gonna give him that?

Is someone going to look at that and say JV is worth more per year.
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Maybe I think this way because he's in the NL and I don't see him all that much but I'm not a big fan of DeGrom.

Doesn't really love the needle for me and especially at $37mm per.
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Actual footage of the Rangers and Angels' general managers arriving at the winter meetings.



Life is better with a beagle
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I guess it costs about 35m a year to have to play the Astros lineup and get your ass kicked all year.

They still finish 3rd in the division
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Imagine having $700 million committed to Seager, Semien and DeGrom
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Big get for the Rangers. Now they'll only finish 5 games below .500
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big, big health risk for the Rangers

it will be a small miracle if he makes 25 starts next year
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Ag_07 said:

Maybe I think this way because he's in the NL and I don't see him all that much but I'm not a big fan of DeGrom.

Doesn't really love the needle for me and especially at $37mm per.


Let's be clear what he is. He's probably the best starting pitcher in baseball WHEN HEALTHY. He's 0-2 staying healthy the last 2 seasons. When he did pitch this past season, he looked pretty human. He's not JV or even Scherzer old, but he is entering his age 35 season. To finish up, the WS MVP took him yard last spring.

Rangers are writing the book on how you can't buy a rebuild. They're going to make LAA look smart by comparison.
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"Can't buy a rebuild". I like that.
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I'd pass on Brantley. Almost a lock he will be hurt again next season.
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Still relevant
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JV, who is 6 years older, is asking for $6M more per year and 60% of the years DeGrom is guaranteed

I wonder if JVs value is now a lot lower than his expectations or if someone will rush to sign him
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Funny Twitter post

DeGrom got a taste of the playoffs this season and decided he had seen enough
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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I'd be totally fine with having JV with the Mets
Formerly Willy Wonka
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Composite 5 star GM recruit
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His Twitter is protected. His follower count is about to blow up. (currently only 55)
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But Bagwell hates analytics and has advised Crane that the organization needs to move away from that approach.
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DeGrom pitched fewer than 160 innings over the last two seasons.

He's only had seasons of 200+ innings 3 times in his 9 year MLB career.

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You say that likes it's a bad thing. How many pitchers have 3 seasons above 200 IP? It's becoming more and more rare. He was a modern workhorse before 2020.
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Yuli back? Fb friend just posted it. I don't see it anywhere.
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Farmer1906 said:

You say that likes it's a bad thing. How many pitchers have 3 seasons above 200 IP? It's becoming more and more rare. He was a modern workhorse before 2020.


Look at his contemporaries. Others with shorter or equivalent careers have more. Kluber has 5 seasons of 200+. Cole has 5. Nola has 3. Strasburg has 3.

Some of the older guys, JV and Greinke each have more than 10.

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From 2015-20 he's 3rd in IP ahead of JV, Cole, Kluber, Nola, Keuchel, Etc.
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