***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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I would gladly take Abreu Yuli and Brantley and be done with position players.

get Yuli and Brantleys experience and bat back, and both can DH/relieve Abreu and Yordan for rest days.
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McInnis said:

I think everyone agrees that Yuli's days of being an everyday 1st baseman are over. But is it possible that the post season Yuli we just saw was due to all the extra days off he got in the playoffs?
Definitely possible. IMO his days of being effective offensively for a full 162 are probably over, but I think he can still play plus defense.
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Deluxe said:

If we don't sign JV:

1. Altuve 2B
2. Judge CF
3. Alvarez LF/DH
4. Bregman 3B
5. Tucker RF
6. Pena SS
7. Brantley LF/DH
8. Yuli 1B
9. Catcher
Do not want Judge, and why wouldnt you just write Maldonado in the 9 hole...because that is what it will be
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Deluxe said:

McInnis said:

I think everyone agrees that Yuli's days of being an everyday 1st baseman are over. But is it possible that the post season Yuli we just saw was due to all the extra days off he got in the playoffs?
Definitely possible. IMO his days of being effective offensively for a full 162 are probably over, but I think he can still play plus defense.
I don't think the extra rest hurt, but it could just be a case of a small sample from a seasoned vet who's not overwhelmed by the moment. I think we learned more about what Yuli has left in the 146 game samples, not the 12 game one.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Deluxe said:

If we don't sign JV:

1. Altuve 2B
2. Judge CF
3. Alvarez LF/DH
4. Bregman 3B
5. Tucker RF
6. Pena SS
7. Brantley LF/DH
8. Yuli 1B
9. Catcher
Do not want Judge, and why wouldnt you just write Maldonado in the 9 hole...because that is what it will be

Just messing around buddy
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I wouldn't count on Crane going to the payroll limit before the season starts. He has generally left 15-20M in cap room for an impact trade. I don't think that's going to change.
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Deluxe said:

If we don't sign JV:

1. Altuve 2B
2. Judge CF
3. Alvarez LF/DH
4. Bregman 3B
5. Tucker RF
6. Pena SS
7. Brantley LF/DH
8. Yuli 1B
9. Catcher


I wouldn't be mad.

Especially if they can't get a deal done for Tucker and he's expected to walk when the time comes.
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I mean, it would arguably be the best starting lineup of all time.....

No chance it happens though - nothing about Crane says that he'll pay one of the biggest, longest contracts we're going to see. Judge is going to get PAID.
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Deluxe said:

If we don't sign JV:

1. Altuve 2B
2. Judge CF
3. Alvarez LF/DH
4. Bregman 3B
5. Tucker RF
6. Pena SS
7. Brantley LF/DH
8. Yuli 1B
9. Catcher


Careful….some posters will fight you if you don't put Peña batting second.
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Farmer1906 said:

Nino Brown said:

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07ag said:

Someone didn't like your predictions?
I was 22 and vastly dumber (if that's possible). Jeff Granger pitched came into pitch in relief, walked a guy, and was promptly taken out, so I stood up and gave him a standing ovation. A Royals fan behind me thought I was being an a-hole, which is fair because I was, and shoved me in the back, and I turned around and started swinging.

We were both kicked out of the game and had to sign a waiver saying we wouldn't return to Kauffman that year. That was pretty funny because I was on a road trip and just stopped on a lark to see the game.


Talking about old stuff made me realize how bad I still hate Ben McDonald, thanks!
**** that guy.
Ben McDonald....talk about someone who had a punch-able face. IMHO, this is about the only thing that ever came out of LSU worth a damn that I could stand.
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Ag4life80 said:

I wouldn't count on Crane going to the payroll limit before the season starts. He has generally left 15-20M in cap room for an impact trade. I don't think that's going to change.
True, but the penalty for going over isn't harsh. It's 20% of the overage. He could go up to and pass the limit like he did in 2019 after the deadline, but he probably won't. I think 200-215 is a more likely range. That means we have room for about 21-36 M more after Montero's deal. JV would eat that entirely. Another thing to consider is that we have very little (~15-20 M between Maldy, Maton, Stanek, & Neris if we don't pick up his option) coming off the books after 2023 so whatever we do this year needs to pretty much cover next year as well.

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Nino Brown said:

Farmer1906 said:

Nino Brown said:

The Porkchop Express said:

07ag said:

Someone didn't like your predictions?
I was 22 and vastly dumber (if that's possible). Jeff Granger pitched came into pitch in relief, walked a guy, and was promptly taken out, so I stood up and gave him a standing ovation. A Royals fan behind me thought I was being an a-hole, which is fair because I was, and shoved me in the back, and I turned around and started swinging.

We were both kicked out of the game and had to sign a waiver saying we wouldn't return to Kauffman that year. That was pretty funny because I was on a road trip and just stopped on a lark to see the game.


Talking about old stuff made me realize how bad I still hate Ben McDonald, thanks!
**** that guy.
Ben McDonald....talk about someone who had a punch-able face. IMHO, this is about the only thing that ever came out of LSU worth a damn that I could stand.
I don't think there has ever been a guy who loves to talk about his very minor (in the grand scheme of things for baseball) accomplishments. Every A&M game he did, his stories about beating A&M would get mentioned.
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OKCAg2002 said:

Did you go see the Astros in June? That's when we went. Weather was 72 degrees on Friday night. Yordan hit a homer, good guys won, and fireworks. It was an amazing night.
Yep! We went to all three games. Friday night was awesome. I just remember being blown away by the view/outdoor vibe in the stadium. Plus everyone was super friendly. If they are moving on I am glad I got to see it before the change.
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Farmer1906 said:

Ag4life80 said:

I wouldn't count on Crane going to the payroll limit before the season starts. He has generally left 15-20M in cap room for an impact trade. I don't think that's going to change.
True, but the penalty for going over isn't harsh. It's 20% of the overage. He could go up to and pass the limit like he did in 2019 after the deadline, but he probably won't. I think 200-215 is a more likely range. That means we have room for about 21-36 M more after Montero's deal. JV would eat that entirely. Another thing to consider is that we have very little (~15-20 M between Maldy, Maton, Stanek, & Neris if we don't pick up his option) coming off the books after 2023 so whatever we do this year needs to pretty much cover next year as well.


I might be remembering wrong, but didn't they add draft / international bonus pool penalties for going over in the new CBA? I might be getting that and the QO changes mixed up.
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EastCoastAgNc said:




Interesting deal. Looks like Seattle is trying to make a run at the Astros.
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Nope. You have to go way way over for some minor rule 4 draft penalty.
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when it comes to free agency --- all it takes is one. (re: JV and 3 years)

that's what the player and his agent are counting on --- there will be one franchise to hand out a very dumb contract.

and most of the time it happens...oddly enough not for Correa last year
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agproducer said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




Interesting deal. Looks like Seattle is trying to make a run at the Astros.
Chaz for Springer straight up. Who says no?
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That's a nice Haniger replacement / upgrade.
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Farmer1906 said:

Nope. You have to go way way over for some minor rule 4 draft penalty.
Ok, thanks
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Why do people keep posting on the season thread! Its screwing with my watch list
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CFTXAG10 said:

agproducer said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




Interesting deal. Looks like Seattle is trying to make a run at the Astros.
Chaz for Springer straight up. Who says no?


The Astros. The best part about the Springer contract are the early years. We don't want to give up something for the back end of it.
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agproducer said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




Interesting deal. Looks like Seattle is trying to make a run at the Astros.
Seattle will also sign one of the shortstops - my prediction is either Swanson or Correa.
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Honestly that's a pretty fantastic move for Seattle
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Ag_07 said:

Keep an eye on the Rangers as a dark horse JV suitor.

They need pitching and are said to be in on DeGrom so they don't mind spending that kinda money, and kinda need a big splash signing to get butts in seats.

If he's going for the money grab as opposed to ring chasing and no one else wants to go that high then I could see that happening.
Their bullpen isn't that bad and their offense if at least top half of the league.

If they did get DeGrom, kept Perez, and got JV, they would be spending a crazy ton of money, but that starting 3, assuming DeGrom and JV stay healthy, would be pretty damn good.

I don't think JV is going to the Rangers, but I agree with you they shouldn't necessarily be ruled out if they're willing to spend.
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loma_vista78 said:

Honestly that's a pretty fantastic move for Seattle
Interested to see what they gave up.

It is a good move for them, for sure.
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Beat40 said:

loma_vista78 said:

Honestly that's a pretty fantastic move for Seattle
Interested to see what they gave up.

It is a good move for them, for sure.
Erik Swanson. Pitcher with 3 years of control, who turned into a top-tier back-end arm last year.

Adam Macko - Top 10ish prospect in the Seattle system. Likely going to be in AA this upcoming season.
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And if I am seeing correctly Teoscar will be a free agent after 2023
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CFTXAG10 said:

And if I am seeing correctly Teoscar will be a free agent after 2023
I imagine they will try to lock him down long term like they did with Castillo. If he really only has one year left before FA and they don't lock him down, they likely overpaid for him.
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Farmer1906 said:

Beat40 said:

loma_vista78 said:

Honestly that's a pretty fantastic move for Seattle
Interested to see what they gave up.

It is a good move for them, for sure.
Erik Swanson. Pitcher with 3 years of control, who turned into a top-tier back-end arm last year.

Adam Macko - Top 10ish prospect in the Seattle system. Likely going to be in AA this upcoming season.
Blue Jayes addressing their bullpen need.

Seattle upgrades their bats.

Seems like a win for both sides if they can reach a reasonable deal with Teoscor.
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loma_vista78 said:

Honestly that's a pretty fantastic move for Seattle


Depends on who they gave up

Can't really say it's good until then
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I love watching AL teams load up on bats like it will make a difference when daddy Houston is inevitably back in the WS next year thanks to stellar pitching
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if we got Judge, Dusty would bat him 7th until he got a feel for his abilities.
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