Crazy to think we haven't been champs for even a full week yet!
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Nightengale dropping more nuggets fed to him
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2022/11/11/astros-gm-james-click-no-contract/10670475002/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2022/11/11/astros-gm-james-click-no-contract/10670475002/
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The truth is that Crane already had a potential succession plan in place for at least a year. Crane privately interviewed several candidates to replace Click last winter in which they would work under Click for one year, and then likely assume the GM duties. Click instead was permitted to hire his own assistants.
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It was almost as if Crane believed the Astros were winning in spite of Click, and found himself more involved in baseball operations than he desired. He rejected Click's trade for Cubs catcher Willson Contreras for pitcher Jose Urquidy at this trade deadline, and grimaced at other moves that backfired. Certainly, he was looking forward to the day he could have someone else in the role that would earn his respect.
But we have been American League champs for 380 days and by the time the next AL champ is crowned we will have been AL champs about 1,500 days out of the previous 2,200 days!An L of an Ag said:
Crazy to think we haven't been champs for even a full week yet!
Starting to sound like perennial to me.
Montero is back
I have no idea if Twitter is going to be around today, tomorrow, next week, next year.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 12, 2022
I love everyone here and want them to know that there's a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency plan.
Rafael Montero is going back to the Astros for three years and $34.5 million, you monsters.
Ummmm wow. He's getting borderline closer money. I was confident we'd let him walk with Pressly, Neris, Stanek, Abreu, Maton, & Seth still in the pen. Maybe Brown too.
Seems a bit expensive
The bullpen was a major reason we won it all. Guess we want to keep that as a major strength.
Crane wants that luxury tax
And that is completely fine with me
And that is completely fine with me
That's a lot of money for a 7th/8th guy. Although given Pressly's health maybe it's hedge money as an 8th/9th guy. Either way this pen is filthy and deep which is what the long season requires.
At 11.5 per year that's not bad for 3 years
This is no surprise since earlier this week Crane said Montero was our only FA and they would be working on that.
Looking back he meant the only FA we're resigning.
This is no surprise since earlier this week Crane said Montero was our only FA and they would be working on that.
Looking back he meant the only FA we're resigning.
Montero was Dusty's favorite guy so I guess it makes sense based on how we sit.
Giving a journeyman reliever a 3 year contract coming off a career year is…interesting
I don't like the deal but I guess we'll see how it works out.
11.5 makes him the 10th highest AAV for a RP. Pressly is 5th.
One thing for sure, this is not a deal Click or Luhnow does.
Didn't have $34 million for Montero on my bingo card. Interesting.
That tells me... nothing, really. Does it take away a bat? Does it signal no JV? Does it mean Crane will spend more this season? At this point, we don't know.
That tells me... nothing, really. Does it take away a bat? Does it signal no JV? Does it mean Crane will spend more this season? At this point, we don't know.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
I think that's fair. I like it's only 3 years and no more.
I love that the best BP in baseball is still in tact and coming back.
I love that the best BP in baseball is still in tact and coming back.
Marvin said:
Didn't have $34 million for Montero on my bingo card. Interesting.
That tells me... nothing, really. Does it take away a bat? Does it signal no JV? Does it mean Crane will spend more this season? At this point, we don't know.
I'm all for this as long as it doesn't prevent us from something more pressing.
Pitching and defense wins championships.
If he's doing $11.5MM for an 8th inning guy there better be more for bats at 1B and LF. Who knows what kind of ball Manfred will trot out next year.
Click wasn't coming back or being offered anything long term the moment Reggie Jackson became an Astros special assistant.
I would agree with the sentiment as long as it does not preclude the Astros from getting help at 1B/LF and the lineup then I am ok with it - it does seem a bit steep for a setup guy. I would say its less likely with the signing of Montero that they end up with JV and the position players we all want to see.
Nino Brown said:
Click wasn't coming back or being offered anything long term the moment Reggie Jackson became an Astros special assistant.
I hope that's not true. I'm not a fan of old baseball players making decisions. Give me nerds in analytics any day over those guys.
This is so odd. We never overpay for a setup man. Didnt we let graveman walk for this?
Ags #1 said:
This is so odd. We never overpay for a setup man. Didnt we let graveman walk for this?
Less. 3/24.
That's high. Let's see what other moves we make.
Montero would have gotten this from someone else. I don't think it's a horrible deal.
"That doesn't necessarily mean Ball/Firkus worked out the Montero deal. If the last week/month/months has shown anything, it's that Jim Crane is heavily involved in ops. Jim Crane mentioned Rafael Montero by name and unprompted at the press conference announcing Dusty Baker's extension."
Was told last night that, in the interim, assistant general manager Andrew Ball and senior director of baseball strategy Bill Firkus are running the Astros' day-to-day baseball operations. Both were at the GM Meetings with James Click.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) November 12, 2022
Bull Pen arms, particularly at the top, can be fickle. I remember when Devo seemed unhittable. And even Face Puncher had stretches of his career where he was dominant.
It's never bad to have high end depth in your BP because you never know when an established arm might flame out or get injured.
It's never bad to have high end depth in your BP because you never know when an established arm might flame out or get injured.
To me it's a signal Crane is going to spend given other needs and him I think wanting JV back too.
I'm at least going to tell myself this.
I'm at least going to tell myself this.
Have the winter leagues started yet? I'll be interested to follow Pedro Leon's progress. I read somewhere, or imagined, that Cintron was managing him in Puerto Rico.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
I don't like it. I know he was great at points, but he did like to walk a lot of batters. There were a couple of games in the playoffs where walks with him were an issue.BCSGrubber said:
Montero is backI have no idea if Twitter is going to be around today, tomorrow, next week, next year.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 12, 2022
I love everyone here and want them to know that there's a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency plan.
Rafael Montero is going back to the Astros for three years and $34.5 million, you monsters.
If he gives us another year of his 2022 production then he's worth that 11.5 mil
Montero deal very surprising. Bullpen was still pretty stacked without him.