***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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loved that year

you could sit anywhere in the stadium no hassle
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BCSGrubber said:

Off day visit…


Jealous. When I was there, they weren't even giving tours because the Cubs were on the road and there was a concert tour passing through. Went to Guaranteed Rate instead. It was decent.
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including 19 to Cleveland in April, in a game we trailed 14-0 after 1-1/2 innings.
Going to take a wild shot... did Phillip Humber start that game?
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W said:

speaking of off-days...

here's reason #10,581 why the WAR metric doesn't make sense or is misleading or both.

according to baseball reference...the 5th best position player in the American League this season is...

Marcus Semien (5.7 WAR)

lol what?

he's had a disappointing year. And was just awful in the 1st half while the Rangers were trying to stay in contention. He's had a great (and meaningless) September to clean up his numbers.

Altuve is not in baseball reference's top 10 for the American League.

so according to WAR...the Astros would have been better off in 2022 with Semien as their second baseman
Semien is getting 1.6 for his dWAR compared to Altuve's (-1.2) dWAR

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/semiema01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/altuvjo01.shtml

They correctly recognize that Altuve's bat has been phenomenal this season (4th in all of MLB) with an oWAR of 6.5.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB-leaders.shtml

I guess it just matters how much credence you give to their defensive assessment. Altuve is tied for 5th most errors amongst 2nd basemen, and baseball reference loves Semien's range factor and fielding percentage.

A large part of Pena's WAR number is attributed to his defense too.
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two comments...

first...both Altuve and Semien hit in the leadoff spot. Which makes the offensive comparison much more relevant. .917 OPS vs. .746 OPS. The #1 thing their teams want from them...is to kickstart the offense every night.

second...I would take the Jeff Kent defense. If my second baseman provides a .917 OPS, I don't care if he's Roberto Duran "hands of stone" out there. We'll figure out how to make it work

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BWAR uses defensive runs saved.

Semien - 11
Altuve - (15)

It also uses baserunning runs. I don't know where they give that but Statcast has an equivalent.

Semien - 6.6
Altuve - (0.4)

Altuve fails spectacularly here. That's why Semien closes the gap value wise.

Even with Altuve's shortcomings he's up big on Semien in FWAR. 6.3 vs 4.2.
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Agreed W.

I take Altuve every time.
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Farmer1906 said:

BWAR uses defensive runs saved.

Semien - 11
Altuve - (15)

It also uses baserunning runs. I don't know where they give that but Statcast has an equivalent.

Semien - 6.6
Altuve - (0.4)

Altuve fails spectacularly here. That's why Semien closes the gap value wise.

Even with Altuve's shortcomings he's up big on Semien in FWAR. 6.3 vs 4.2.
Ouch on the defensive runs saved.

I had no idea it was that bad.
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If he replaces Chas, thats a travesty
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I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone
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CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone

Hensley should be ahead of him in line
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CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone
I was just thinking the same. We will need that in several series, no doubt.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone

Hensley should be ahead of him in line
Why? Is he faster?
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Faustus said:

Farmer1906 said:

BWAR uses defensive runs saved.

Semien - 11
Altuve - (15)

It also uses baserunning runs. I don't know where they give that but Statcast has an equivalent.

Semien - 6.6
Altuve - (0.4)

Altuve fails spectacularly here. That's why Semien closes the gap value wise.

Even with Altuve's shortcomings he's up big on Semien in FWAR. 6.3 vs 4.2.
Ouch on the defensive runs saved.

I had no idea it was that bad.
DRS is kind of sketchy stat. It involves people reviewing plays. OOA is better.
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Ag12thman said:

CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone
I was just thinking the same. We will need that in several series, no doubt.

That and I'd rather have whatever, anything, Meyers offers than Dubon.
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Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone

Hensley should be ahead of him in line
Why? Is he faster?

He's not an offensive and defensive liability. If you pinch run, you need a defensive replacement. You burn one less player by having someone you can sub in if you have to pinch run for someone who isn't a catcher.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone

Hensley should be ahead of him in line
Why? Is he faster?

He's not an offensive and defensive liability. If you pinch run, you need a defensive replacement. You burn one less player by having someone you can sub in if you have to pinch run for someone who isn't a catcher.
You think he plays a better OF?
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Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone

Hensley should be ahead of him in line
Why? Is he faster?

He's not an offensive and defensive liability. If you pinch run, you need a defensive replacement. You burn one less player by having someone you can sub in if you have to pinch run for someone who isn't a catcher.
You think he plays a better OF?
Doesn't he play LF? If we start Mancini in LF at any point, then Hensley has got more speed than Trey. Based on recent results, he can probably hit better than Mancini too.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

CFTXAG10 said:

I could honestly see Meyers make the postseason roster for his speed alone

Hensley should be ahead of him in line
Why? Is he faster?

He's not an offensive and defensive liability. If you pinch run, you need a defensive replacement. You burn one less player by having someone you can sub in if you have to pinch run for someone who isn't a catcher.
You think he plays a better OF?
Doesn't he play LF? If we start Mancini in LF at any point, then Hensley has got more speed than Trey. Based on recent results, he can probably hit better than Mancini too.


No, he is an infielder. In the minors, he played 8 games in the outfield.
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He gone
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EastCoastAgNc said:


He gone
That is one of the dumbest quotes I think I have ever read...
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Roof is open right now. Shame there's no game being played.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


He gone


Tweet deleted…?
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Good bull
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He deleted to reword his tweet, but the quote is direct.


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Hopefully he doesn't end up in Baltimore.
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So glad we didn't re-sign him….such a diva…
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I loved him when he was with us, but he's gotten a bit too full of himself, I think. We are doing just fine with Pena.
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the Phillies lost again today. Brewers can catch them in the standings with a win tonight over the Marlins.

Phillies may have to win the series in Houston to make the playoffs
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I think Correa -- in the back of his mind -- is afraid that he's misplayed the entire situation going back to last year.

and the mega 8, 9, 10-year contract is slipping away from him
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ya think?
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cc10106 said:

Hopefully he doesn't end up in Baltimore.


Last year it didn't make a lot of sense but now seeing that they're not too far off this would make a lot for them.
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88Warrior said:

So glad we didn't re-sign him….such a diva…


How does this make him a Diva. He asked about it and he answers. He doesn't want a 3 year deal, he wants a long term one.
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Farmer1906 said:

88Warrior said:

So glad we didn't re-sign him….such a diva…


How does this make him a Diva. He asked about it and he answers. He doesn't want a 3 year deal, he wants a long term one.
A dude comparing himself to something at the Dior store is pretty much the definition of diva.
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