That's it! I forgot about the no hitter. Impressive stuff
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Marvin said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:Marvin said:
It's an off day, and the trade deadline will be approaching soon, so let's talk hot stove.
Josh Bell, 1B/DH, Nationals, rental, $10 million in '22. The Astros cost would have to be cheap in my opinion, because we assume Brantley and Alvarez will be healthy and swinging the lumber into the fall as DH options. Bell only plays 1B, which would free Gurriel up to also contribute at 2B or 3B as needed, but this move seems like a bad fit by itself.
Yuli can help at 2B and 3B….did we hit the sauce early on this off day? Yuli hasn't ever played meaningful innings anywhere but first but now you beieve he needs to be spelled at first and that will allow him to play other positions…..
Yuli has played 2B and 3B with the Astros when needed. As stated in a post above, that's where he played in Cuba. Notice I said "as needed" as in an injury or something. I also said that it really wasn't a great fit since Bell only plays 1B as far as I know. No flexibility there, unlike some of the other options I mentioned.
And please read closer next time, or at least don't be so obtuse. No need for that.
He has played 5254 innings at 1B, 133 at 2B, 685 at 3B (328 of those were in 2019 when Bregman went down)
Only 2 of all those innings was after 2019….his days of other positions are gone. I'm not being obtuse I'm being realistic
Forrest Whitley injury update: Upper bicep inflammation. MRI revealed no damage to the rotator cuff or shoulder. Forrest walked off the mound yesterday in Sugarland after pitching 1.2 scoreless frames. It was his 2nd start in AAA as he makes his return from TJ surgery.
— Chuck Miketinac (@MaxSportsSA) July 12, 2022
EastCoastAgNc said:Forrest Whitley injury update: Upper bicep inflammation. MRI revealed no damage to the rotator cuff or shoulder. Forrest walked off the mound yesterday in Sugarland after pitching 1.2 scoreless frames. It was his 2nd start in AAA as he makes his return from TJ surgery.
— Chuck Miketinac (@MaxSportsSA) July 12, 2022
That sounds good, or at least not as bad as expected.
How about this for comparison... Astros wins at the 85-game mark in recent seasons (compared to MLB leader):
2016- 46 (54)
2017- 58 (58)
2018- 55 (56)
2019- 53 (58)
2020- ...
2021- 52 (54)
2022- 56 (61)
Goes to show just how strong the Astros have been this year.
2016- 46 (54)
2017- 58 (58)
2018- 55 (56)
2019- 53 (58)
2020- ...
2021- 52 (54)
2022- 56 (61)
Goes to show just how strong the Astros have been this year.
Yeah, not just strong this year, but over several years.
My #1 trade deadline wish is a 1B or OF that kills left-handed pitching. I still have bad memories of all those Braves lefties mowing us down in the World Series last year. Was doing a little bit of analysis of our lineup to see if there are any major OPS discrepancies against righty/lefty:
Yordan: .368 higher vs righties
Altuve: .277 higher against lefties
Bregman: .281 better against righties
Tucker is basically the same either way. Brantley, Pena and Yuli have some minor discrepancies, but nothing that you'd want to make any lineup shifts of behalf of.
My observations:
1) I don't like Bregman hitting next to Yordan in the lineup. Especially if Bregman is separating two lefty hitters (like Brantley/Yordan). Too easy to make things difficult for us in the late innings against a LH specialist.
2) I'd love to see Altuve and Yordan hitting back to back, preferably with Altuve sandwiched in between Yordan and another lefty.
3) Ian Happ is still the guy I'd really really like to snag at the deadline. He checks so many boxes. He's extremely versatile defensively. He also mashes lefty pitching (.953 OPS vs lefties this year).
If we could acquire Happ, I'd love to see us restructure the lineup a little. Basically, if you want to have a lefty face Yordan, fine. They're going to have to face Altuve or Happ too.
1. Brantley, 2. Altuve, 3. Yordan, 4. Happ, 5. Tucker, 6. Bregman, 7. Pena, 8. Yuli, 9. Maldy
I know Altuve is our leader/lead-off guy, I just think there's alot of value derived from wedging him between two lefties. I also like Yordan hitting 3rd instead of 4th.
That lineup also assumes Happ in CF. As of right now, Meyers is on track to earn the job. Happ would be really nice insurance though. And we can move him around the field and play matchups.
Yordan: .368 higher vs righties
Altuve: .277 higher against lefties
Bregman: .281 better against righties
Tucker is basically the same either way. Brantley, Pena and Yuli have some minor discrepancies, but nothing that you'd want to make any lineup shifts of behalf of.
My observations:
1) I don't like Bregman hitting next to Yordan in the lineup. Especially if Bregman is separating two lefty hitters (like Brantley/Yordan). Too easy to make things difficult for us in the late innings against a LH specialist.
2) I'd love to see Altuve and Yordan hitting back to back, preferably with Altuve sandwiched in between Yordan and another lefty.
3) Ian Happ is still the guy I'd really really like to snag at the deadline. He checks so many boxes. He's extremely versatile defensively. He also mashes lefty pitching (.953 OPS vs lefties this year).
If we could acquire Happ, I'd love to see us restructure the lineup a little. Basically, if you want to have a lefty face Yordan, fine. They're going to have to face Altuve or Happ too.
1. Brantley, 2. Altuve, 3. Yordan, 4. Happ, 5. Tucker, 6. Bregman, 7. Pena, 8. Yuli, 9. Maldy
I know Altuve is our leader/lead-off guy, I just think there's alot of value derived from wedging him between two lefties. I also like Yordan hitting 3rd instead of 4th.
That lineup also assumes Happ in CF. As of right now, Meyers is on track to earn the job. Happ would be really nice insurance though. And we can move him around the field and play matchups.
I mentioned Happ on here as the guy I want us to dial in on a couple months ago. Glad to see someone else on board as well.
We love to give guys days off, so Happ would be playing damn near every day.
We love to give guys days off, so Happ would be playing damn near every day.
Exactly. I remember your post.texasaggie2015 said:
I mentioned Happ on here as the guy I want us to dial in on a couple months ago. Glad to see someone else on board as well.
We love to give guys days off, so Happ would be playing damn near every day.
One downside is that Happ made the all star team this year, so his price tag has probably gone up a bit. He's controllable through next year too.
Seems like every national writer thinks we go after Contreras. I don't see us getting a catcher with how much the team loves Maldy. It's going to be interesting to see what we do. I would be good with Mancini as well and obviously you can always use another bullpen arm.
Agreed. Maldy is too valuable behind the plate and highly doubt we deal for anyone to replace him as starter. Maybe a deal for a cheap veteran backup if we don't think Castro has it anymore.texasaggie2015 said:
Seems like every national writer thinks we go after Contreras. I don't see us getting a catcher with how much the team loves Maldy. It's going to be interesting to see what we do. I would be good with Mancini as well and obviously you can always use another bullpen arm.
Mancini would be interesting but doesn't fulfill my lefty-mashing fantasies.
And I guess a lot of this will depend on the Yordan prognosis.
Marvin said:
How about this for comparison... Astros wins at the 85-game mark in recent seasons (compared to MLB leader):
2016- 46 (54)
2017- 58 (58)
2018- 55 (56)
2019- 53 (58)
2020- ...
2021- 52 (54)
2022- 56 (61)
Goes to show just how strong the Astros have been this year.
I'm surprised to see 2019 was so low. Granted 53 is still amazing. But seeing as how they won 107 I figured our pace right now would be even or slightly behind that team.
Funny stat: We've received favorable treatment from umps in 31.8% of our games this year. That's historically low. You have to go back to the 2016 Reds to find a team treated so poorly by umps from game to game.
Lowest in 2021: 40.9%
Covid year omitted due to small sample size
Lowest in 2019: 37.5%
Lowest in 2018: 36.4%
Lowest in 2017: 39.1%
Lowest in 2016: 29.2%
Lowest in 2021: 40.9%
Covid year omitted due to small sample size
Lowest in 2019: 37.5%
Lowest in 2018: 36.4%
Lowest in 2017: 39.1%
Lowest in 2016: 29.2%
If we have a shot at a top line starting pitcher, we should go for it. Starting pitching is HUGE in the playoffs. You can never have enough, and having another ace to go with JV and Framber would be really nice in a long series. Just don't know how much I trust our other SPs in big spots.
If not, then I'd like to see us bolster the bullpen. Preferably a strong lefty or two.
If not, then I'd like to see us bolster the bullpen. Preferably a strong lefty or two.
That doesn't seem very funny. Frustrating definitely, and impressive that they have such a good record
Yep. It's crazy to think that for every three games series we've played this year, on average, the umpires have been spotting the other team expected runs in two of them.Bobcat-Ag said:
That doesn't seem very funny. Frustrating definitely, and impressive that they have such a good record
We need a lefty for the BP. We have no idea if Taylor will be back this year. I think we should look to upgrade there.
I like the Happ idea if we don't have to give up too much. We likely would have to give up major league talent from triple A and some lotto tickets. If we are looking to do that, is rather go all in and go for Bryan Reynolds. That would likely take Hunter Brown, Leon maybe more and a couple low A guys to get that done. He's under control through 2025.
I like the Happ idea if we don't have to give up too much. We likely would have to give up major league talent from triple A and some lotto tickets. If we are looking to do that, is rather go all in and go for Bryan Reynolds. That would likely take Hunter Brown, Leon maybe more and a couple low A guys to get that done. He's under control through 2025.
What about going after Bednar or Crowe on the Pirates?
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Brandon Drury also would check some of the same boxes as Happ. His splits vs lefties is better than Happ's. Can play multiple positions. Plus he is playing for a contract.
Josh Bell at 1B is also on my list of potentials.
Brandon Drury also would check some of the same boxes as Happ. His splits vs lefties is better than Happ's. Can play multiple positions. Plus he is playing for a contract.
Josh Bell at 1B is also on my list of potentials.
Im just going to say it now,
There are going to be a bunch of very disappointed folks on here at the end of the trade deadline when we only (maybe) add a bullpen arm.
Unless something major injury wise happens between then and now we aren't picking up a contributor or a bench bat. We have a backup catcher his name is Korey Lee. We have a backup 1B and player for the future his name is JJ Matejevich. We have a starting CF his name is Jake Meyers
There are going to be a bunch of very disappointed folks on here at the end of the trade deadline when we only (maybe) add a bullpen arm.
Unless something major injury wise happens between then and now we aren't picking up a contributor or a bench bat. We have a backup catcher his name is Korey Lee. We have a backup 1B and player for the future his name is JJ Matejevich. We have a starting CF his name is Jake Meyers
I agree with this statement. Defensively, we have backups that are playing well and we don't have a glaring gap anywhere now that Jake is healthy.
What we do in the next 2 weeks 100% hinges on Yordan's hand. What play Click makes will tell us his bad that is.
There are 3 weeks to the deadline right? I believe it is 8/2Mathguy64 said:
What we do in the next 2 weeks 100% hinges on Yordan's hand. What play Click makes will tell us his bad that is.
let's add some dataDeluxe said:
My #1 trade deadline wish is a 1B or OF that kills left-handed pitching. I still have bad memories of all those Braves lefties mowing us down in the World Series last year. Was doing a little bit of analysis of our lineup to see if there are any major OPS discrepancies against righty/lefty:
Yordan: .368 higher vs righties
Altuve: .277 higher against lefties
Bregman: .281 better against righties
Tucker is basically the same either way. Brantley, Pena and Yuli have some minor discrepancies, but nothing that you'd want to make any lineup shifts of behalf of.
My observations:
1) I don't like Bregman hitting next to Yordan in the lineup. Especially if Bregman is separating two lefty hitters (like Brantley/Yordan). Too easy to make things difficult for us in the late innings against a LH specialist.
2) I'd love to see Altuve and Yordan hitting back to back, preferably with Altuve sandwiched in between Yordan and another lefty.
3) Ian Happ is still the guy I'd really really like to snag at the deadline. He checks so many boxes. He's extremely versatile defensively. He also mashes lefty pitching (.953 OPS vs lefties this year).
If we could acquire Happ, I'd love to see us restructure the lineup a little. Basically, if you want to have a lefty face Yordan, fine. They're going to have to face Altuve or Happ too.
1. Brantley, 2. Altuve, 3. Yordan, 4. Happ, 5. Tucker, 6. Bregman, 7. Pena, 8. Yuli, 9. Maldy
I know Altuve is our leader/lead-off guy, I just think there's alot of value derived from wedging him between two lefties. I also like Yordan hitting 3rd instead of 4th.
That lineup also assumes Happ in CF. As of right now, Meyers is on track to earn the job. Happ would be really nice insurance though. And we can move him around the field and play matchups.
wRC+ vs LHP
Team114 (7th best)
Altuve 212
McCormick 162 - does this warrant a part-time platoon in LF with Brantly?
Pena 148
Meyers 143 - only 15 PA, but hit lefties well last year too
Alvarez 137
Tucker 135
Brantly 116
Gurriel 112
Diaz 109
Bregman 80 - this is concerning. 100% should not be top 5 when facing a left-handed starter
Maldonado 70
--
Lee 93 (only 3 PA)
Matijevic -17 (only 5 PA)
wRC+ vs RHP
Team 120 (3rd best)
Alvarez 229
Bregman 153
Altuve 143
Tucker 142
Brantley 134
Meyers 121
Pena 113
McCormick 90
Gurriel 86
Diaz 76
Maldonado 54
--
Lee 218 (only 6 PA)
Matijevic 118 (only 25 PA)
I don't quite see the concern. We're probably one of the most balanced teams on paper. However, these few minutes of research shows we should be altering our lineup based on the starting pitching.
I would say no to another OFer, but Hell Yes to a lefty slugging 1B. I wonder if Lee would be an option at first when facing a RHP?
Sounds like the kind of injury a teenage boy who just "discovered himself" would get.EastCoastAgNc said:Forrest Whitley injury update: Upper bicep inflammation. MRI revealed no damage to the rotator cuff or shoulder. Forrest walked off the mound yesterday in Sugarland after pitching 1.2 scoreless frames. It was his 2nd start in AAA as he makes his return from TJ surgery.
— Chuck Miketinac (@MaxSportsSA) July 12, 2022
If Yordan is broken in a bad way we shouldn't be waiting until the end.Lonestar_Ag09 said:There are 3 weeks to the deadline right? I believe it is 8/2Mathguy64 said:
What we do in the next 2 weeks 100% hinges on Yordan's hand. What play Click makes will tell us his bad that is.
100% agree. said it in the offseason too. This is what we need to add.agproducer said:
We need a lefty for the BP. We have no idea if Taylor will be back this year. I think we should look to upgrade there.
I like the Happ idea if we don't have to give up too much. We likely would have to give up major league talent from triple A and some lotto tickets. If we are looking to do that, is rather go all in and go for Bryan Reynolds. That would likely take Hunter Brown, Leon maybe more and a couple low A guys to get that done. He's under control through 2025.
Valid, so you mean his 10 day IL stint being the 2 weeks...I gotchaMathguy64 said:If Yordan is broken in a bad way we shouldn't be waiting until the end.Lonestar_Ag09 said:There are 3 weeks to the deadline right? I believe it is 8/2Mathguy64 said:
What we do in the next 2 weeks 100% hinges on Yordan's hand. What play Click makes will tell us his bad that is.
Why would you think that?Mathguy64 said:If Yordan is broken in a bad way we shouldn't be waiting until the end.Lonestar_Ag09 said:There are 3 weeks to the deadline right? I believe it is 8/2Mathguy64 said:
What we do in the next 2 weeks 100% hinges on Yordan's hand. What play Click makes will tell us his bad that is.
Who are the top Lefty RP options
I'm not sure I trust the team when they say its not a hamate or something worse than what they are saying (which admittedly isn't much). The injuries to Meyers and LMJ were much more significant than what they let on.Farmer1906 said:Why would you think that?Mathguy64 said:If Yordan is broken in a bad way we shouldn't be waiting until the end.Lonestar_Ag09 said:There are 3 weeks to the deadline right? I believe it is 8/2Mathguy64 said:
What we do in the next 2 weeks 100% hinges on Yordan's hand. What play Click makes will tell us his bad that is.
I'm not saying it's intentional or that they lied. I just worry this is more than what they have said so far.
One way or the other we will know in a couple of weeks.
If the way Dusty refused to platoon catchers last year is any indication, we know he won't do it.Quote:
However, these few minutes of research shows we should be altering our lineup based on the starting pitching.
Maybe it's just me but I'm not super high on JJ. Of course I hope I'm wrong.Quote:
We have a backup 1B and player for the future his name is JJ Matejevich
The #1 guy on my list would be Arizona's Joe Mantiply. He's left a bullpen Framber with the ground balls. Strom probably gets the credit for his success.Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Who are the top Lefty RP options
I'd take Andrew Chafin from DET. I know some wanted to sign him in the offseason on here. I don't remember who. His declining velo would very slightly worry me for 2023.
Daniel Norris (Cubs) could be a relatively cheap option, but he has walk issues.
Amir Garrett (Royals) would be a fun option. Big badass that lefties cannot tough (TED did last time tho), but righties hit him hard. Walk issues too.
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