***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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I can kind of understand throwing a guy in the fire like that and letting them feel the pressure. But you don't do that when the offense has been stagnant for three games, and your coming off of two losses. Its early in the season but moves like that will make this season a long one.
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Ags #1 said:

Holy crap. Purpura and wade were some
Of the worst GMs in astros history. Horrible
Comparison. Wow


We'll see…if your argument starts with Click's team coming off a WS in his 1st full season and re-signing the future HOF'r to return, then Purpura would like a word.
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The Beef01 said:

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Yeah Click hasn't done anything really wrong except overpay for Odorizzi as a knee jerk reaction to Framber's finger injury. In fact I think Click has done really well overall


I don't know, he has been very reactive to things and it's almost like he places very little value on the CF position.

He shored up the bullpen at the deadline and then let those pieces walk and while the BP has been doing pretty well, tell me it doesn't scare you without a Graveman/Garcia in there.

I'd love for him to prove me wrong, but right now, Click feels like he is closer to Tim Purpura 2.0 than being in Luhnow's league or even Gerry Hunsicker's.


Little value? He targeted Sterling Marte in the offseason, not a SS.

He traded away Straw because he wasn't cutting it and we had better options in the minors or on the bench. 3 of them.

The fact he didn't sign Springer is likely a good thing. His age 31 season was mostly Injuries. 32 is yet to see seen. Pretty soon the Jays are going to overplaying a declining player.
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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

bearkatag15 said:

Yeah Click hasn't done anything really wrong except overpay for Odorizzi as a knee jerk reaction to Framber's finger injury. In fact I think Click has done really well overall


Don't forget Baez...

Montero has been a pleasant surprise this year, and Graveman was solid for us last year. Probably won that trade as it stands now, but other than that, I struggle to list any major accomplishments or long term improvements to the team (or farm, for that matter) attributable to him. JV was Crane's decision.
Already listed LMJ extension, Yuli extension for cheap, Brantley resigning. All are very positive.

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Farmer1906 said:

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bearkatag15 said:

Yeah Click hasn't done anything really wrong except overpay for Odorizzi as a knee jerk reaction to Framber's finger injury. In fact I think Click has done really well overall


That and the Baez signing were the only real missteps.

Extending McCullers, signing JV, rebuilding the bullpen at the deadline, Stanek signing, all pretty good so far.

Too early to tell on the signing Neris signing and Pressly extension, but so far so good.


Nothing like a loss to bring out the morons.


Dang… I'm a moron now?

I'm assuming that was in response to who Bearkat and I were responding to.


Correct, Click has been fine
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We will see if he is close to purpura in like 5 years but the bad deals he has made or the ones he hasnt made havent been egregious. Queastionable sure, but not like he traded for a jason jennings , at least not yet
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Dusty is so obsessed with lefty/righty matchups... its a plague for him
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Farmer1906 said:

The Beef01 said:

bearkatag15 said:

Yeah Click hasn't done anything really wrong except overpay for Odorizzi as a knee jerk reaction to Framber's finger injury. In fact I think Click has done really well overall


I don't know, he has been very reactive to things and it's almost like he places very little value on the CF position.

He shored up the bullpen at the deadline and then let those pieces walk and while the BP has been doing pretty well, tell me it doesn't scare you without a Graveman/Garcia in there.

I'd love for him to prove me wrong, but right now, Click feels like he is closer to Tim Purpura 2.0 than being in Luhnow's league or even Gerry Hunsicker's.


Little value? He targeted Sterling Marte in the offseason, not a SS.

He traded away Straw because he wasn't cutting it and we had better options in the minors or on the bench. 3 of them.

The fact he didn't sign Springer is likely a good thing. His age 31 season was mostly Injuries. 32 is yet to see seen. Pretty soon the Jays are going to overplaying a declining player.


Don't get me wrong…I'm not someone who feels it was his "failure" to not retain Springer or Correa; I think Springer would've been wasted money and Correa would've been stupid to do what the Twins did here.

I'm not sealing the guy's casket, I'm just looking at where we look 2 weeks in and reacting to some worst case scenarios. I hope it turns around.
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Yuli and Brantley are short-term covers and needed to be done. Agreed. Jury is out still on LMC and Press extensions in my mind.
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I have a lot of problems before Click is one of them. The lineup is sleepwalking. Dusty is trolling. Click can't make these dudes play remotely near their talent level.
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Folks are frustrated with losing and are just hammering away at whatever. Well except Baker's decisions have been really bad, but bringing him back was entirely Crane.

In any case Click's decisions have nothing to do with how the team is playing at this time. zip. It's our core guys that are not getting it done at this time.

Most of Click's guys are doing well.
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bearkatag15 said:



Dusty is so obsessed with lefty/righty matchups... its a plague for him


You absolutely wanted to get lefties in there with Romano. Look at his career splits.

I just don't like doing it with the rookie in his first ever AB with 2 outs in the 9th. Castro for Maldy all day long.


Wait a second. He's a reverse split guy? Holy **** Dusty.
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Ags win
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Farmer1906 said:

bearkatag15 said:



Dusty is so obsessed with lefty/righty matchups... its a plague for him


You absolutely wanted to get lefties in there with Romano. Look at his career splits.

I just don't like doing it with the rookie in his first ever AB with 2 outs in the 9th. Castro for Maldy all day long.


Wait a second. He's a reverse split guy? Holy **** Dusty.


I was about to ask if that shows what you think it shows...lol
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Farmer1906 said:

bearkatag15 said:



Dusty is so obsessed with lefty/righty matchups... its a plague for him


You absolutely wanted to get lefties in there with Romano. Look at his career splits.

I just don't like doing it with the rookie in his first ever AB with 2 outs in the 9th. Castro for Maldy all day long.


Wait a second. He's a reverse split guy? Holy **** Dusty.
Yep. It's like he immediately thinks an opposite hitter is the best matchup, but never checks on it. All depends on what kind of stuff they have.
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Lol. Im confused doesnt that show lefties are worse against their closer?
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Ags #1 said:

Lol. Im confused doesnt that show lefties are worse against their closer?


So much worse. Like… that should be a fireable offense.
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Ags #1 said:

Lol. Im confused doesnt that show lefties are worse against their closer?
Thats exactly what it shows (that's what reverse split in his post means). Meaning Dusty was even dumber than originally thought.
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Lol. I bet Dusty has no idea what the splits were on that guy.

He's Mr Burns pinch hitting for Daryl Strawberry
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This is Chandler's moment. Let him shine
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Frok said:

Lol. I bet Dusty has no idea what the splits were on that guy.

He's Mr Burns pinch hitting for Daryl Strawberry


That was a genius move though.
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Prosperdick said:

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Marvin said:

OK, Astro Ags. Take tomorrow off- get yourself a rainout if necessary, clear your head, smoke em if you got em, visit the Rangers thread for some vicarious comfort, buy a new rally brew, and show up ready to mash on Friday night. We got this.


Will be there Friday night
JV pitching - calling it - Astros win
Springer return - if hbp tonight doesn't keep him out
Friday Night Fireworks - if roof isn't still broken
Thanks for the jinx...
Hate that I called it....
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bearkatag15 said:

Wabs said:

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Wabs said:

And everyone thinks the Astros weren't punished for cheating. Really? We have Baker and Click now. That's enough to sink any team.
Did Click piss in your cheerios? Really confused what you have against him…


LOL. Let's discuss his good moves over the offseason. I've got JV, and umm, umm.,,,,,
Resigning Yuli for pennies on the dollar...

Trading Toro for Graveman and the emerging Montero...

Getting Maton for Straw looks really good so far.

Hector Neris has been good so far minus the slip up tonight...

There are a lot of positives from Click's time here.. More than negatives.

add in the signings Farmer mentions above this post as well
I think the Odorizzi disaster --- including his $6 MM option for 2023 --- cancels out at least half of this list
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bearkatag15 said:



This is Chandler's moment. Let him shine
that was weapons-grade incompetence by Dusty tonight
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bearkatag15 said:



Dusty is so obsessed with lefty/righty matchups... its a plague for him


Yeah it's completely irrational in a lot of cases, go with the better hitter everytime
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Dusty was given the keys to a Ferrari and has been driving it like an old man who can't keep straight which pedal is the gas and which is the brake. This past week he's been driving it through the front windows of the waffle house over and over.
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I mean, if you want to ***** because it's April and the Astros haven't won every game because you are still a 5 year old mentally, lay the blame at Jim Crane's feet. There was never a reason to can Luhnow and Hinch to begin with.

And Rat Fiers is pitching in the Mexican Penal League.

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At least the fireworks were good!
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bearkatag15 said:



This is Chandler's moment. Let him shine
All year long
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Just an observation- Once JV left the game only 2 of the 9 on the field were even on the team in 2017.
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Can't wait until MLB starts every at bat with a ghost runner on second.
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Big Al 1992 said:

Just an observation- Once JV left the game only 2 of the 9 on the field were even on the team in 2017.


True. George was in the visitor's dugout
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Tucker's last 10 games are a nightmare. 35 ABs, 1 hit and 10 Ks. Somehow he managed to score a run.

He needs to sit and clear his head. Let Chas play RF and Siri CF today.
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It'll come. Relax.
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